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flashburn 02-08-04 06:42 PM

Champions Of Norrath
 
Well, since this game is coming out in a few days I think it is time for a thread.

Here are some screenies :

http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/ch...011604_007.jpg
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/ch...100303_002.jpg
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/ch...082703_003.jpg
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/ch..._scrn12290.jpg
http://ps2media.ign.com/ps2/image/ch...011604_000.jpg

Vegas9203 02-08-04 07:54 PM

I'm so on the fence right now

MrKen 02-08-04 08:41 PM

This would push me over the edge on XBOX Live... if it was on the XBOX that is.

The main thing for me on this one would be the online play, and there is no way I'm investing in Sony's online solution.

Looks good though.

flashburn 02-08-04 08:45 PM


Originally posted by Vegas9203
I'm so on the fence right now
As am I....Once Gamespot and IGN review it and if it is around an 8 or higher then I will make my decision.

Galanthas 02-08-04 09:18 PM

Developer:Snowblind studios
(original developers of BG: DA 1)
http://www.snowblindstudios.com/

They are the reason I have been anticipating this game since it's announcement and have skipped BG: DA 2 entirely until it hits bargin bin. It helps that I dig the EQ universe as well, hopefully they used quite a bit of it.





Originally posted by MrKen
This would push me over the edge on XBOX Live... if it was on the XBOX that is.

The main thing for me on this one would be the online play, and there is no way I'm investing in Sony's online solution.

Looks good though.

:hscratch:
Since the game is free to play online I'm not sure what the problem is? All you need ,if you have a PS2 that didn't come with the ethernet adapter, is to just buy one for $39.99. Unless you don't own a PS2 at all, then I could understand it not being worth it.

Decker 02-08-04 09:58 PM

This one looks to be a lot of fun. I'm probably in (though I'm so far behind with new games right now I could easily be busy until the eventual price drop).

victant 02-08-04 10:05 PM

I'm definitely looking forward to this title, too. I guess I'll have to drop $40 for online play, but at least it's free after that. ;)

trigun 02-08-04 10:55 PM

The developers have said that there will be no buddy lists, lobbies, etc. for this game.

Puzznic 02-08-04 11:13 PM

Yeah, i would definitly get this game if it was on Xbox live.

gp98 02-09-04 07:29 AM

Yeah, the online possibilities are cool but setting up games may be lacking.....

I'm in it for the coop play that my wife and I enjoyed in BG:DA but we're busy so we might also end up not getting to it until there is a price drop.

Gromit 02-09-04 08:29 AM

I'm picking this one up this weekend. I'm a sucker for this type of game (BG, D&D, etc).

Anyone interested in DVDTalk co-op play online?

balancer 02-09-04 08:46 AM


Originally posted by Gromit
I'm picking this one up this weekend. I'm a sucker for this type of game (BG, D&D, etc).

Anyone interested in DVDTalk co-op play online?

If I pick this up, I'm definitley going to going online with it... Gamespot did a fairly in-depth preview of the online co-op mode and said it was near flawless on Broadband. I don't like the sound of that menu system though...

~~ PAL ~~ 02-09-04 09:08 AM

At least it's refreshing that there isn't any charges to play online. I mean, how many people has the money/time to justify monthly fees for this or other subscription based online games?

MrKen 02-09-04 09:15 AM


Originally posted by Galanthas
Developer:Snowblind studios
(original developers of BG: DA 1)
http://www.snowblindstudios.com/

They are the reason I have been anticipating this game since it's announcement and have skipped BG: DA 2 entirely until it hits bargin bin. It helps that I dig the EQ universe as well, hopefully they used quite a bit of it.






:hscratch:
Since the game is free to play online I'm not sure what the problem is? All you need ,if you have a PS2 that didn't come with the ethernet adapter, is to just buy one for $39.99. Unless you don't own a PS2 at all, then I could understand it not being worth it.

As mentioned above by other posters, this one has the kind of online support I've come to expect from Sony, which means next to none, so I'd expect to be spending more time waiting to have fun than having fun- if not all out frustrated and pissed off trying to get a game going.

Free is great, but if this was on XBOX live I wouldn't have to worry (as much) about people cheating, dropping in and out of games, finding people who at least act like they are over 12 years old etc.

I'm not saying it is a bad game, or that Sony is bad, I'm just saying this would be a must buy for me on XBOX live (or with XBOX live type support from SONY) but for me it is probably a pass for now.

FWIW, I like Sony a lot better, I just hope they get the online play right next time around.

flashburn 02-09-04 09:21 AM


Originally posted by MrKen
As mentioned above by other posters, this one has the kind of online support I've come to expect from Sony, which means next to none, so I'd expect to be spending more time waiting to have fun than having fun- if not all out frustrated and pissed off trying to get a game going.

Free is great, but if this was on XBOX live I wouldn't have to worry (as much) about people cheating, dropping in and out of games, finding people who at least act like they are over 12 years old etc.

I'm not saying it is a bad game, or that Sony is bad, I'm just saying this would be a must buy for me on XBOX live (or with XBOX live type support from SONY) but for me it is probably a pass for now.

FWIW, I like Sony a lot better, I just hope they get the online play right next time around.

This is exactly why I will not support the PS2 online. If Sony doesn't, why should I?

Decker 02-09-04 10:01 AM

Well, FWIW, I know there are a lot of people who prefer Sony's set up just because there isn't any online fee (after the modem). Yes, there will be cheaters and quitters, but it will still likely be a lot of fun. I guess that the Everquest name had the potential to frighten a lot of consumers off, since the ads are boldly proclaiming Free Online Play.

BTW : In case there's anyone who doesn't realize it, Champions is a second-party Sony game and of course will not be coming to the Xbox.

clarkkent 02-09-04 11:22 AM

Ive got to admit, after finally seeing how Xbox live looks and works, that Sony's system really sucks. I definately think its worth the 5 bucks a month just to be able to avoid all the hassles. Ill definately echo MrKen's sentiments that you'll be spending more time setting up a game then playing it. If this was on Xbox it would be the biggest thing since sliced bread.

Josh H 02-09-04 11:39 AM


Originally posted by Galanthas

:hscratch:
Since the game is free to play online I'm not sure what the problem is? All you need ,if you have a PS2 that didn't come with the ethernet adapter, is to just buy one for $39.99. Unless you don't own a PS2 at all, then I could understand it not being worth it.

No kidding. I'd much rather pay $40 for a network adapter and then be able to play pretty much every game for free, than pay $50 or so a year just for some better features.

discostu1337 02-09-04 12:08 PM

Ya, PS2 online is fine, and this game is gonna rule. Between this, SOCOM2, and Syphon Filter 3 BETA...I'm never gonna get to bed.

CreatureX 02-09-04 12:55 PM


Originally posted by MrKen
Free is great, but if this was on XBOX live I wouldn't have to worry (as much) about people cheating, dropping in and out of games, finding people who at least act like they are over 12 years old etc.
I don't know if I've just been unlucky, but I've experienced all of the above when I've been on Xbox Live.

balancer 02-09-04 01:53 PM


Originally posted by CreatureX
I don't know if I've just been unlucky, but I've experienced all of the above when I've been on Xbox Live.
Forums are full of people who have the same problems, I would
expect better if I was paying for it.

mrglass 02-09-04 04:05 PM

Even though I'm definitely buying the game on Wednesday, I went ahead and bought the latest OPM because of the included demo. It rocks! Graphics, gameplay, music...everything is (almost) perfect. The only gripe that I have is that it's sometimes difficult to target enemies if you're primarily a spellcaster. But, that's only a small nitpick.

Galanthas 02-09-04 07:26 PM


Originally posted by MrKen
As mentioned above by other posters, this one has the kind of online support I've come to expect from Sony, which means next to none, so I'd expect to be spending more time waiting to have fun than having fun- if not all out frustrated and pissed off trying to get a game going.

Free is great, but if this was on XBOX live I wouldn't have to worry (as much) about people cheating, dropping in and out of games, finding people who at least act like they are over 12 years old etc.

I'm not saying it is a bad game, or that Sony is bad, I'm just saying this would be a must buy for me on XBOX live (or with XBOX live type support from SONY) but for me it is probably a pass for now.

FWIW, I like Sony a lot better, I just hope they get the online play right next time around.
I can understand some preferring XBL because of the extra features, *but to say Sony got online wrong is just plain goofy. It's set up basically like a PC online enviroment.

Also they have always said the game was single player first, with a tacked on online portion. Do I think the online portion is goofy if games are hard to get going? Yep, but online isn't and never was my main reason for buying this particular game.

*Wasn't directed at you, just a general statement.

Galanthas 02-10-04 01:30 AM

Gamespot Review

Score 8.5

Last paragraph

Playing Champions of Norrath can be a little bittersweet. The core components that make up the game experience--the graphics, the sound, the actual gameplay--all come together to create an experience that is, across the board, better than the original Dark Alliance and better than any of Champions' current rivals. The game offers an enjoyable single-player and multiplayer experience, and there's enough to it to keep you entertained for a long, long time. That all of this fun is hampered somewhat by some noticeable bugs, which could have and should have been addressed before the game's release, is a shame. However, Champions of Norrath is still truly great, warts and all, and that speaks to the sheer quality of work that Snowblind has put into its latest game.

By Ryan Davis

IGN Review

Score 8.9

Closing Comments

Closing Comments
Champions of Norrath took a fun thing with Dark Alliance, reworked and polished it until it shined even more than before. The story is forgettable, but the action takes steps away from the button-mashing of other dungeon crawlers and brings more strategy into the genre. With the different strategies required for many of the enemies, and the huge amount of spells and items collect, the game constantly changes over time.
The real treat is the ability to play the game any way you want to and to be able to play with three other people off or online. The online functionality is still very new and a bit shaky, but works out great if you have a crew of dungeon crawler fans that you don't mind talking to for the next few weeks. If you had to pick between this and, say, Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance 2 or Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel, Snowblind's newest action-RPG is, without a doubt, the champion of them all.

-- Ed Lewis

flashburn 02-10-04 07:31 AM

I'll still be getting it, but it is a shame that it is another game that could've been great if they waited and fixed some bugs(True Crime).


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