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Old 11-19-03 | 12:21 PM
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I think I speak for just about everybody here when I say both of you are acting like a bunch of two year olds. Get over it and lets talk about what this thread is really about. The mods should really put an end to this sort of behavior by suspending people for constaint fighting. THEY'RE GAMES PEOPLE!!!! Who really cares what someone said.

And as far as MY post, I'm glad I pissed you off. It makes up for the bad mood you both put me in having to read all your crap above when all I really what to know is what this thread is supposed to be about, FFX-2.
We had a disagreement over something that was said. I apologized for calling calling him an 'ass' cause that's they way he was coming off to me as and I also said that the argument was over and done with. He accepted my apology, we still may not agree with what each other said but we move on. Its DONE
and OVER with but yet we still got people, like yourself that thinks it's still going and is making a bigger deal out of this than it actually is.

We are discussing FFX-2 thats why I started this thread. I'm NOT the one that started posting stuff about how FFX was a monumental disaster and I'm not the one who was complaining about FFX's features that's not why I started this thread. This thread was suppose to be about FFX-2 but I guess everyone wants to bring up how bad the other titles in the series were instead of talking about FFX-2....thats fine.

I don't care what mood I put you in and no, you didn't piss me off with your post. Yes, they are only games but there's nothing wrong with discussing them and not everyone is going to agree with each other but I wasn't trying to start something with Cartman. I simply pointed out that his dislikes about FFX were not in FFX-2....that's it. I wasn't chewing him out because he didn't like FFX...he's entitled to his opinion.

As for Superboy...he stated FFX was a monumental disaster...what does that have to do with FFX-2? All he had to say was he didn't like FFX and he wasn't going to be getting FFX-2 or heck, don't post at all.
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As for Superboy...he stated FFX was a monumental disaster...what does that have to do with FFX-2? All he had to say was he didn't like FFX and he wasn't going to be getting FFX-2 or heck, don't post at all.
He just stated his opinion and an opinion on a prequel is certainly relevant in a thread discussing anticipating the sequel. He has a right to say, the problem really started with people like you jumping all over him and others. Just respect others opinions or ignore them.

So many people on this forum have some kind of inferiority complex or something that leads them to try and refute/disvalidate every opinion that differs from them.

Just respect others opinons, attacking them just takes threads off topic and causes pointless arguments. I mean who gives a shit if some random person on the internet thinks a game you loved was a monumental disaster? I loved FF-X as well, but Superboy was entitled to his opinon (as was Cartmen) Idisagree with them, but big deal. Different strokes for different folks.

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Old 11-19-03 | 02:17 PM
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Originally posted by Josh Hinkle
He just stated his opinion and an opinion on a prequel is certainly relevant in a thread discussing anticipating the sequel. He has a right to say, the problem really started with people like you jumping all over him and others. Just respect others opinions or ignore them.

So many people on this forum have some kind of inferiority complex or something that leads them to try and refute/disvalidate every opinion that differs from them.

Just respect others opinons, attacking them just takes threads off topic and causes pointless arguments. I mean who gives a shit if some random person on the internet thinks a game you loved was a monumental disaster? I loved FF-X as well, but Superboy was entitled to his opinon (as was Cartmen) Idisagree with them, but big deal. Different strokes for different folks.
I love how you twist things around man, so you look good in the end. I respect other people's opinion and in no way did I ever put him down because of it but like YOU said....state FACT as FACT and OPINION as OPINION:

Originally posted by Josh Hinkle


You hit the nail on the head. That english teacher is full of crap. State facts as facts, and opinions as opinions.

Stating opinions as fact doesn't make an argument stronger, it just makes you look pompous and will cause people to quit reading your work.
FACT: FFX was NOT a Monumental Disaster

OPINION: I did not like FFX


All I did was agree with what you said and you go off bashing me because I don't respect other people's opinion? WTF, man?! Not once have I attacked anyone's opinion on this thread. Read my posts. I agreed with you on Superboy's comment but in no way did I have a problem with him disliking the series or FFX. With Cartman I never bashed him because he did not like FFX all I did was point out to him that the features he disliked about FFX were not going to be in FFX-2. Please tell me how is that not respecting another's opinion.

Also, I never said I loved FFX...don't know where you got that one from and I don't care if someone hates or likes the same games I do. Everyone has their own personal tastes. I have no problem with someone voicing their dislikes towards a particular game just don't post an outrageously false statement about the game, just say you hated it.
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Sometimes you just have to ignore when people state opinions as fact.

Yes it annoys the hell out of me, but I've learned it's just better to ignore moronic comments like that.

I don't think FFX was a monumental disaster, and I would have preferred he simply said he hated it. But I just ignored the comment. You jumped on him for it, and cartman for his statements, and pulled the whole thread into a pointless little pissy fight.

What I mean is I understand why you jumped on him, as he stated opinion as fact, but it's simply not worth it. I just don't pay any attention to people that state opinion as fact and go on with my day and don't ruin threads in the process. But hey, I'm not a mod and it's just advice. Post however you want.
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Old 11-19-03 | 06:27 PM
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Originally posted by Josh Hinkle
I don't think FFX was a monumental disaster, and I would have preferred he simply said he hated it. But I just ignored the comment. You jumped on him for it, and cartman for his statements, and pulled the whole thread into a pointless little pissy fight.
You didn't ignore his comment. That's why you posted the crap about his English Teacher and how he needs to know the difference between stating a fact and stating an opinion. I never jumped him for it but I did say he should have just posted that he disliked the game instead of stating something that was false.

The whole Cartman thing was taken further than it should have and it's partly my fault the other being Cartman. He said he disliked FFX because of specific features(read his post) and said he wouldn't be picking up FFX-2 because of it. I took this as, he assumed FFX-2 would be similar to FFX in that it would use the same combat system, sphere system etc. So my reply to him was to let him know that was not the case but he took it as an attack on his intelligence, which it wasn't. Even though I clearly stated this in my previous reply to you, you still say I jumped on him. Whatever man, you can say what you want.

What I mean is I understand why you jumped on him, as he stated opinion as fact, but it's simply not worth it. I just don't pay any attention to people that state opinion as fact and go on with my day and don't ruin threads in the process.
And that's why you said......

You hit the nail on the head. That english teacher is full of crap. State facts as facts, and opinions as opinions.

Stating opinions as fact doesn't make an argument stronger, it just makes you look pompous and will cause people to quit reading your work.
Obviously if you didn't care if someone was stating opinion as fact then why would you write that? Like you said, 'don't pay any attention to it'.....maybe you should practice what you preach.

Anyways, onto more important matters....FFX-2 was released today and I picked up my copy.

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Old 11-20-03 | 12:41 AM
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So back on the topic at hand how much can you slow down the fights? I play a RPG to relax and have fun not to think fast and move my fingers fast on the control pad.
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Old 11-20-03 | 12:48 AM
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I picked up the game tonight and ended up playing for over 2 hours straight. The battles weren't that fast to me, I was able to follow everything to was going on without a problem. If you've played a fair amount of RPGs that used active time, then you shouldn't have a problem with the default speed in this game. I haven't run into a problem yet anyway.
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Old 11-20-03 | 12:58 AM
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Well in the Configuration you can set the ATB Mode and Speed. ATB mode by default is set to 'Active' which allows the enemies to attack continuously. Switching it to 'Wait' allows you to make you decision before the enemies can attack. The 'Wait' mode is what you want. Things still move pretty quickly in the 'Wait' mode, it's like they've given you a small window to make your move but the enemies will still attack your characters if you take too long....just not as frequently if you were in 'Active' mode. This is where the ATB speed comes in. By lowering this setting your battle timer gauge will charge slowly thus slowing down battles, giving you more time to make your combat decisions.

If you played the demo and weren't found of how the battles were pretty much 'real-time' then you'll be happy to know you can customize the battles to suit your liking.

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Ok people I just want to say ff7 was the best with ff10 is second it wasent bad like most ppl think it had a grate idea and the cut sceens although if they worked on blitzball somemore i would be in love it was a grate idea ff8 behind placeing thired beacuse of squall and the story was sweet ff9 was horriable like what the hell animal ppl and it basically was a mini game although kuja and vivi were sweet i wanna play ffx-2 its not gonna be that bad im waiting 4 it to come out with anticipation.
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Old 11-25-03 | 11:20 AM
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Ok people I just want to say ff7 was the best with ff10 is second it wasent bad like most ppl think it had a grate idea and the cut sceens although if they worked on blitzball somemore i would be in love it was a grate idea ff8 behind placeing thired beacuse of squall and the story was sweet ff9 was horriable like what the hell animal ppl and it basically was a mini game although kuja and vivi were sweet i wanna play ffx-2 its not gonna be that bad im waiting 4 it to come out with anticipation.
Thanks for setting it straight. I liked FF6 the most, but I guess I am wrong. You also win a prize for the longest run-on sentence ever! Congrats, you win a bucket of cheese.

Everyone, above is the OFFICIAL list of the best Final Fantasy's. Why? Because he said so!
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Ok people I just want to say ff7 was the best with ff10 is second it wasent bad like most ppl think it had a grate idea and the cut sceens although if they worked on blitzball somemore i would be in love it was a grate idea ff8 behind placeing thired beacuse of squall and the story was sweet ff9 was horriable like what the hell animal ppl and it basically was a mini game although kuja and vivi were sweet i wanna play ffx-2 its not gonna be that bad im waiting 4 it to come out with anticipation.
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Old 11-25-03 | 12:13 PM
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I think alot of people, like yourself, consider FFVII to be the best in the series, which is cool. For a lot of people FFVII was the first FF game they played and I could see where you would have not liked FFIX. You probably wondered, 'what the hell is going on??!'. The FF games before FFVII kinda resembled FFIX in terms of the game's setting, game play and character design..short people, big heads. After playing FFVII & FFVIII, FFIX was a step in a totally different direction had you not played FF1-6.

I always thought FFVI was probably the best title in the series but no official announcement has come until now.....looks like FFVII was the best in the series.
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Thats right ppl thanks for understanding that my word is LAW ff7 is the best and i will destroy any one who says other wise
P.S. Where can I get my bucket of cheese
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Thanks for setting it straight. I liked FF6 the most, but I guess I am wrong. You also win a prize for the longest run-on sentence ever! Congrats, you win a bucket of cheese.

Everyone, above is the OFFICIAL list of the best Final Fantasy's. Why? Because he said so!
God damn flash you need to knock it off you're getting all pissed cause someone is not typing I think or whatever nobody is going to change their writing style to fit YOU'RE needs so knock it off. You're coming off as a ******* and a whiner man. I knew everything people was typing was their option they don't have to spell it out for me. Geez man clam the hell down.

PS. Yes I know it should be calm but I typed it backwards so many times from now on I will spell it like that :P Also WTF is that saying it's the pot calling the other pot black or something.

One more thing flash

.My only complaint is the stupid quick save bug. That will be patched eventually.

You replyed with

Yeah it does kinda suck that saving in the middle of a level is basically pointless right now. But luckily the game is easy as shit, and the levels are short.

Also one more thing you said too

Hey, it has lots of style, just no substance.


So you're telling me the game is easy good thing you told me cause I don't want to think it's hard when flash said something different. Also good thing I don't think the levels are long cause I'd be wrong flash told me that fact. See flash everyone does it so you need to stop already.

PSS. I'm not trying to start anything but showing ya how you look like a ass from you're post and showing you that you do the same thing

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Old 11-26-03 | 11:16 AM
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God damn flash you need to knock it off you're getting all pissed cause someone is not typing I think or whatever nobody is going to change their writing style to fit YOU'RE needs so knock it off. You're coming off as a ******* and a whiner man. I knew everything people was typing was their option they don't have to spell it out for me. Geez man clam the hell down.

PS. Yes I know it should be calm but I typed it backwards so many times from now on I will spell it like that :P Also WTF is that saying it's the pot calling the other pot black or something.
Yeah seriously man, you do need to calm down. It was a joke! Just relax, and breath easy.



Originally posted by TOPDAWG

Yeah it does kinda suck that saving in the middle of a level is basically pointless right now. But luckily the game is easy as shit, and the levels are short.
So you're telling me the game is easy good thing you told me cause I don't want to think it's hard when flash said something different. Also good thing I don't think the levels are long cause I'd be wrong flash told me that fact. See flash everyone does it so you need to stop already.

PSS. I'm not trying to start anything but showing ya how you look like a ass from you're post and showing you that you do the same thing.
Even though this was about XIII, I will comment about it anyway.
I thought the general consensus was that XIII was easy, from the reviews I have read. And it isnt an opinion that the levels are short, they really are (Have you even played XIII?). You can usually hit the end of a 'level' in about 5 minutes, playing at a steady pace.


I think I need to repeat myself, RELAX.

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Ok people I just want to say ff7 was the best with ff10 is second it wasent bad like most ppl think it had a grate idea and the cut sceens although if they worked on blitzball somemore i would be in love it was a grate idea ff8 behind placeing thired beacuse of squall and the story was sweet ff9 was horriable like what the hell animal ppl and it basically was a mini game although kuja and vivi were sweet i wanna play ffx-2 its not gonna be that bad im waiting 4 it to come out with anticipation.
My brain hurts...
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Yeah seriously man, you do need to calm down. It was a joke! Just relax, and breath easy.

I think I need to repeat myself, RELAX.
HAHA ok man if you're joking you damn sure not coming off that way cause you did it like three times in this thread. Anyway lits just drop it now but it was fun debating with ya. Come on buddy gave me a hug I got some cookies and milk if you want some no joke I do I'm going to get get me some now.
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My brain hurts...
Hey I do not want you making fun of my son like that man. I worked very hard to home school him.
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Old 11-26-03 | 11:45 AM
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HAHA ok man if you're joking you damn sure not coming off that way cause you did it like three times in this thread. Anyway lits just drop it now but it was fun debating with ya. Come on buddy gave me a hug I got some cookies and milk if you want some no joke I do I'm going to get get me some now.
Huh? Three times? That was the only time I made a comment in this thread. You must've been mistaking me with the 50 other people argueing whether or not FFX was a disaster or not.
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Final Fantasy VI was the best, followed by IV.

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Originally posted by V-ism
Final Fantasy VI was the best, followed by IV.

(opinion, not fact)
And I agree with that opinion.

But if we were only to discuss the PS/PS2 era FF games, I feel they rate in the following manner:

1. Final Fantasy VII
2. Final Fantasy IX
3. Final Fantasy X
4. Final Fantasy VIII

I've not played Final Fantasy X-2 yet so I have not bothered to rate it and I don't consider Final Fantasy Anthology, Final Fantasy Chronicles or Final Fantasy Origins PS era games since they're just re-releases of games that appeared previously in other consoles (the varying changes made to the games notwithstanding).

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Old 11-27-03 | 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by V-ism
Final Fantasy VI was the best, followed by IV.

(opinion, not fact)
I agree with that opinion as well.

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did anyone get the limited edition guide that comes with the art book? i'm debating if the its worth the 30 bucks...
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did anyone get the limited edition guide that comes with the art book? i'm debating if the its worth the 30 bucks...
Man, I had the same problem. I was at the register and I saw that limited edition guide and I was really tempted to buy it. Some of the art looked incredible and the posters seemed nice. I wish I could have looked through it but it's sealed. I somehow resisted the temptation, though.

FFX-2 is interesting so far. Most noticeable difference so far: Yuna's voice acting! It's much much better! The battles move at a good pace, although I may end up changing the setting to "Wait" mode since thats more what previous FF games were like and I'm more comfortable that way. The battle system is improved IMO, although "changing dresspheres" in the middle of battle and the sequence that follow may get annoying soon. How is everyone else enjoying it?
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