i'm guessing ps3 will be backwards compatible
 

http://www.the-magicbox.com/gaming.htm

"Sony will integrate the PS2 processors Emotion Engine, Graphics Synthesizer and RDRAM into a single chip, and the 90nm process will be reduced to 65nm."

i wonder if nintendo or microsoft will do the same

yep, i wonder if it will be backward-backwards compatible. ;)

I sure hope Sony wouldn't make a huge mistake and not have the new system be compatible with the huge archive of games they have for the PSX.

They have only announced that the PS3 will be backwards compatible with the PS2. No announcement has been made about compatibility with the PSX. Rumor has it that you will have to purchase a small "block" to plug into a controller port to make the system backwards compatible. Who knows how valid this is (probably not).

Any mention about current accessories being compatible without any devices being needed?

Yes, PS3 will be backwards compatable with PS2 and PS games.

Why not make it forward-compatible with PS4 and PS5 though?

You'll probably will need to buy a multi-tap, the dual shock 1 and 2 won't be compatiable, you won't be able to save your ps1 and ps2 games on your ps3 memory card.

wait a sec...if you go backwards....and then go backwards again.....aren't you right back where you started ;).

I imagine MS and Nintendo will follow suit, and all 3 systems will be backwards compatible next generation.

I think being backwards-compatible was maybe the smartest thing Sony did with the PS2 launch. Even though it was never advertised or mentioned on the box, I really think it made people more comfortable about buying the system in the early days. I would assume all three manufactures took note of that while designing their next console

What do you mean...PS3 memory card?!

They can't seriously be planning on still using those are they?

The PS3 will have a hard drive, right?

I hope not. Hard drives drive up cost and are problem prone.

LOL.

Yeah, I hope my next PC comes with a memory card slot, those darn hard drives just keep going bad in my PC's.

Ok sarcasm aside, I think I would rather have a hard drive than have to pay $20+ for a single memory card. Hmm, actually make that $40+ for 2 memory cards. I have yet to meet a person with only one memory card, they get full too quick.

Plus a EIDE 20.0G hard drive currently goes for $36, according to pricewatch.com.

The only people complaining about hard drive are the manufatures because all of their memory card income will shrink to be almost non existent.

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Hey, I've had bad luck with hard drives in my PCs and pretty much every x-box problem you hear about is hard drive related.

At any rate I think it's useless. I don't mind buying a couple memory cards. And all the other crap is features I'd never, ever use

I wouldn't use patches, updates, new levels due to not having broadband and having no plans on getting it anytime soon as I don't do much on the net at home and think it's way overpriced.

Custom soundtracks don't interest me at all. In most of the games I play (platformers, RPGs, adventure games etc.) the music is an important part of the atmosphere. I don't play extreme sports games, and very few racing games, which are the two areas I could see the appeal of custom sound tracks.

So to me all the hard drive does is help drive the console launch cost up over the $199 limit (which is the most I'll EVER pay for a console) and give me more to worry about given my personal bad luck with hard discs.

Sorry about your bad luck with hard drives, but what about "downloadable content" thru demo discs? Would you spend $5 to buy a demo disc that had collection of downloadable content for your games? Imagine new level for your platformers, new quests for your RPGs, new characters for your adventure games etc.

Plus if you subscribe to an official magazine for your system they usually have demo discs and those demo discs can include the bonuses. For example the Splinter Cell level will one day be available thru the Official Xbox Magazine Demo disc.

How many memory cards do you own? Also the hard drive can help in decreasing load times by caching the game data.

The PS3 should have monochrome graphics because I don't plan to buy one of those overpriced "color" television sets.

I own 2 GC mem cards because they're ridiculously small. I only own one PS2 card. I don't tend to replay games, I usually beat them and sell or trade them and can delete the saves.

The Demo discs are a good point. I don't subscribe to any of those official magazines. They're too pricey and poorly written and unobjective IMO. Extra levels have never been a huge appeal to me. I'm weird in that I get sick of things very, very quicky. By the time I beat a game, I'm usually sick of it and will never play it again, even if I missed stuff. One added level really isn't enough incentive to get me to pick it up again. Plus I worry that if this catches on we'll see short games rushed out, with new levels released or sold later on.

At any rate, I know there are benefits to hard drives. They just don't appeal to me. Plus I'm an odd ball here. Most of you guys are hardcore gamers. I'm an extremely casual gamer anymore and play 5 hours a week at most (with many weeks playing only a couple hours or none).

So to me I just see increased cost (however minor) and increase risk (due to my bad experience with HDs), for features that don't appeal to me.

At any rate I can be pretty certain that Nintendo won't put an HD in their system, I likely have nothing to worry about as I'm only planning on buying Nintendo's console next gen (if I get one at all).

I shouldn't have picked up a PS2 over the summer as I in no way have enough time (or desire in games) any more to keep up with all the good games that interest me on both systems. Nintendo's good game every one or two months is more than enough to satisfy my gaming needs.

Rumor has it that Sony will be selling two versions of the PS3: one with all the goodies built in, and one that is made to just play games. This would satify those people who demand a hard drive and all those goodies which make a video game system close to a computer, and those who just want to play games and aren't too serious about video gaming. Everyone is happy!

"pretty much every x-box problem you hear about is hard drive related."

I'll disagree with this, a huge number of those problems had nothing to do with the HDD, and everything to do with the crappy disc drive they used. Come to think of it, that was the problem with PS2's also. I hope the PS3 only uses cartridges to fix this problem. ;)

I found a third party memory card when I bought my GC with 1,000 block capacity. I didn't realize how huge this was for awhile.

I think that both Nintendo and MS know they HAVE to have a backward compatible system if they're going to compete with the PS3.

Third party high capacity mem cards have a horrible track record though. Everyone I know who's used them (myself included) has horror stories about losing data for no apparent reason.

That would be sweet. Especially if the higher end model has even more junk like Tivo built in to drive up the costs even further.

There's a downside for those that want the HD and all that stuff. Most likely the cheaper gaming only version will sell a lot better, so many developers would be hesitant to take advantage of the HD and other optional features.

'cough' X-box 'cough'

Bad move unless the higher end system only has features not needed for gaming.

If only half the PS3 market has a hard drive then the hard drive will likely not be well supported. Developers tend to create games for the lowest average system :(

My gut feeling is that the lower end system will have the same basic features only less. so the PS3 base will have a 20 GB hard drive whereas those who buy the higher end system would get a 120 GB hard drive with Tivo features. Both would function the same as a gaming machine. The added HD space would be used for Tivo or MP3's.

You could see a modem vs broadband option in the lower vs higher since both would still offer online play with one just being a lot slower.

More memory in the higher end system could allow the PS3 to go online with web surfing and downloading of MP3's basically turning it into a computer. whereas the lower end one would have less memory. Both would use the same amount(the lower ends amount of ram) for the games.

This type of model would work for developers since they could still develop all games for the base PS3.

:confused: Almost none of the problems are hard drive related. The problems are mostly due to the crappy DVD drives used in the majority of XBoxes.

Yeah, I think that the Hard Drive will be included with both models, but a very small one will be included with the cheaper model and a much larger with the more expensive model. Also, the whole modem/broad band separation sounds about right. Again, this is just a rumor, so we'll have to wait (to E3 hopefully :D)

I hope the PS3 comes with a hard drive, Tivo, a CD burner, a digital camera dock, a tv tuner and a built-in printer... and I hope it costs 499 bucks...

Printer :lol:

I do think the high end unit will have firewire and usb and HD,Tivo, cd burner however.

I expect the high end unit to retail for around $499 and the low end one for $299.

That's still $100 too much for me for a gaming only machine.

$199 after a year or so like this generation :)

Yep. I waited for a price drop on the PS2. But I prefer $199 at launch and $149 a year or so later. :D

muahahahahahaha :lol:

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I want it to cost $1 and a Sony rep should come to my house and hook it up for me.

Hey, you guys can pay what ever you want. I'm a poor grad student and only play games 5 hours or so a week, so any gaming machine that launches at more than $199 (with no game included) will have to wait for a price drop before I consider buying it.

I would also like to see this system at $199. I have hopes that it might really happen seeing how the price wars are in full swing and all three systems will come out in close proximity of each other, if they keep on schedule that is.

I was going to hold off, but the rumor that said they were building two different gaming machines mentioned that the gaming only machine would launch at $199 and the all-in-one machine would launch at $399.

I hope it will download pRon for you while you sleep.