This thread is great! It's like reading the IGN boards without paying to be an "Insider"!

Nintendo is not getting out of the console market.

MS would get out sooner than Nintendo would.

For future reference, a good way to know when a discussion is going the wrong way in this forum is when the discussion turns to the people posting instead of the topic they're posting about.

If someone's breaking the rules, please report them. If not, and you just have a problem with them, then I suggest you either choose to drop it and stay on topic, or if you can't do that, ignore them.

It's called an opinion - god forbid I have one.

The percentages are just my guesses - much like a weather forecaster whos only meteorological tool is looking out the window. I don't keep repeating anything - I haven't said anything that would make me stick out as the big anti-nintendo guy or anything. I have praised them as much as I've said things I don't like about them. My opinions are nothing more than opinions and as Static said, you don't have to listen to them if you don't like them.

If I have to guess, I'd say that Nintendo will continue to make home consoles, at least for the next generation since they've already put in all the R&D money already.

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I also do not think Nintendo will leave the home console market. They simply go about doing their own thing. As has been repeated, they make a ton of money on the portable handheld GBs so they can afford to stay in the game. I think, they will try and time the release of their next console to coincide with the other two as to not be give ps3 a huge head start. However this is Nintendo we are talking about so delays are a given.
That being said, I think it has got to be worrisome that it is mostly the 1st and 2nd party games that sell for Nintendo. Why would 3rd party developers like EA or Sega continue to make games for the CUBE (and pay the high royalities) if most of the people only get Mario, Metroid or Zelda and not NFL2k3 or the third version of Crashbandicoot, etc.

Ill call you on that next gen. Another Nintendo console is a sure thing. Theyve already spent the big money on R&D, lease commitments, ect.

If U.S. fans are upset they sure have a funny way of showing it by breaking preorder records for ZELDA: TWW. Are UK fans upset as well? They also have a funny way of showing it by making METROID PRIME the number one selling game in the UK this week.

Zelda, F-Zero and most likely Mario Kart by Xmas are three huge games being published by Nintendo this year. Not to mention more games are likely to be revealed at E3. Since Halo 2 has been delayed until 2004, can anyone name two AAA decent games being published by MS this year for Xbox?

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Well, I'm sure that's possible that they could make another one. Do you know how much they've spent on R&D though? Any numbers? That's doesn't always mean a product is gonna happen. I don't know why everyone is so emotional about the idea (not saying you are in particular) that they won't make any more consoles... I mean, most people seem to agree that the best part about the Gamecube is the first party games that are on it... Also - most Nintendo supporters seem to like at least a few games that are exclusive to other consoles. Given that, wouldn't it be in their best interest to see them make games for other consoles so there would be a) less consoles to buy and b) more development time spent on software rather than hardware and c) much more choice in terms of game library for people who only buy one console (given Nintendo's overall weak 3rd party support)?

I'd personally love it if Nintendo would make games for other systems - that would mean I could play Pikmin, Mario, Metroid, Halo, Ghost Recon, and Panzer Dragoon Orta (or Grand Theft Auto, Frequency and Gran Tourismo) without having to buy an extra console. The reason I said I'd "go on the books" or whatever is cuz I recently had a conversation about this with a friend of mine who is a 3rd party licensing manager for one of the console developers and he seemed pretty convinced that they won't make another one even after I mentioned the R&D and that they had announced they were making another console. He knows how these companies work better than I (or most of us) do, but he doesn't work for Nintendo or anything so of course he could be wrong. We were just sharing opinions with each other.

Because I actually LIKE all of Nintendo's consoles. They seem to be the "first" when it comes to a lot of innovation.

Didn't Nintendo put D-pads, shoulder buttons, analog joysticks, RF wireless controllers, and 4 controller ports on the map? Among other things?

That's all old news though... Besides, this is the way it goes in technology... some company does something first and another company comes along and does it better. And for every innovation they've made, there have been innovations made by other developers that Nintendo failed to impliment in their console. That's cool if you feel that way about them though... they've been around for decades making great consoles and games - I can see why it would hard to let something like that go.

I assume you are saying that Nintendo is no longer making the "better" console? I guess that's a matter of opinion.



The only ones I can think of are CD-based games (a big gaffe on their part, I'll agree), hard drives and built-in network adaptors. Nearly everything else is traceable back to Nintendo consoles.

I guess I don't feel like I am having a hard time "letting it go," but that Nintendo makes great consoles and games, so why wouldn't I want them to stay in the game?

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Im kind of nieve when it comes to the up and comings but what are some of the heavy hitters coming out? I know about zelda and the new gb.

They've already announced that they are working on the successor to the gamecube and stated that when they leave the hardware business that's when they leave the video game business entirely.

So there's no need to even address the issue further. Personally I don't care one way or the other. There games are all I really enjoy anymore with a few exceptions, and I have no problem with the amount of releases. A couple good games a year is all the time or interest I have in gaming anymore. If they leave gaming, I'll stop as well. My PS2 has gathered dust ever since I finsihed FFX last summer as I've been dissappointed with every PS2 exclusive I've picked up since. And the X-box doesn't have enough games that interest me to even think about picking up one. Hell, I've even been less than blown away by Nintendo's offerings with the exception of Metroid (and hopefully Zelda). I guess I"m just finally outgrowing gaming. Maybe I should hope for Nintendo to quit making games, it would certainly save me some money spent on something I only use a couple hours a week if that.

F-Zero, Final Fantasy Crystal Cronicles, Ikaruga, Wario World, Sonic Adventure DX, Mario Golf, Mario Tennis, and Soul Calibur II are all games I'm looking forward to.

Not sure if these are heavy hitters by your definition, but I will be buying all of these for the Cube.

Just a few thoughts (All my opinion):

1. Companies may not always release a product whether or not they spend a ton of money on it's R&D.

2. Although I have about 20 games for the Cube, I wouldn't have bought most of them if they weren't on clearance. This goes for any console. I feel, since I have the console, I'll get a few games for it, even if I didn't think about buying these games.

3. It doesn't matter to me whether Nintendo releases 1 or 100 quality games a year. I can switch between my systems in between titles.

4. The GameBoy is the most successful game system ever made. Even if Nintendo loses money on the Cube (not saying they do) they'll make it up with their handheld unit.

Yes, Nintendo is going bellyup. Happy?

Nintendo's been around a long time. They know how to do business even though you may not think so.

True that.

Nintendo is in the Video game business. They are also a Japanese public company. They are one of the most honest companies to it's stockholders and announce earnings and earning predictions as they change (unlike some company that would get firebombed if they were to reveal the financial loss that their console has ccaused them- wink wink). They know what they are doing. If they say 'new console'- you'd be a fool to bet against them.

If you're referring to Microsoft, they stated outright that their home entertainment division lost $348 million in the fourth quarter of 2002. That division includes more than just the XBox, but I seem to recall similar complaints here about Nintendo not breaking out their results to show how successful the GBA is vs. the GC.

I would argue that that it does in fact mean the product will happen. But that doesnt mean it wont be dead on arrival. So thats fairly irrelevant. If they just released it to recoup some of the costs and didnt sink any more money for marketing and support does it really matter?

What I cant understand though out of all the opinions expressed here is the "theyre profitable, there will always be a console" arguement. If I make $5 working my ass off and someone tells me I can make $50,000 doing the same thing or less I would be pretty retarded not to consider it.

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whyd u post if u just didnt care?