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Does that also mean Nintendo will lower their price on the Gamecube for $12 at TARGET with a coupon printout.

:-)

EXACTLY In 5 years technology changes drastically, 15 mos.? NES did the redesign thing also... after 5+ years as well. The XBox redesign isn't warranted, it is M$ caving to peoples gripes. They don't want to be the BIG guy on the block(no more fat jokes). Instead of wasting money on this redesign, why not just take all the gripes and complaints and put it towards the next-gen console. Learn from your mistakes.

Weird. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

You mean:

That mean Nintendo lowest price $10 for Gamecube w/ coupon off $100 at Target.

HOPE THIS HELP ;)

hahahahah :)

They've shown they're more interested in gaining market share this generation than making money. That's why they're redesigning it now.

It's bound to sell a few more consoles to people that have bitched about its size. I'd have been unlikely to buy one even after a future price drop as the size of the current x-box makes it tough to fit in my home theater setup. The new redesign should eliminate that issue and make me at least strongly consider picking one up after another price drop.

Exactly my thoughts. If they didn't do this, people would get mad saying that they don't listen enough to the consumer, but when they do do it, people get mad anyways.

I don't see anyone mad in this thread. :hscratch:

I bet they do cut corners on the new one though (guts wise) to try and make some $$$

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Okay, mad wasn't the right word. I don't know, I just think it's weird when Microsoft is trying to remedy a problem, people basically say that they shouldn't fix it and just wait till next time, but I think if Microsoft didn't address the problem, people would fault them for it. Anyways, that's what I meant (I think :p).

Well the guy that said they should wait was making his argument from a business standpoint.

If MS wanted to maximize profits, then it would be best not to put out a new x-box as the R&D costs will likely outweigh any profits from additional sales earned specifically from the smaller design.

So he wasn't really bitching at MS, but rather simply saying it isn't good business sense.

Personally I applaud them for listening to consumers and making a change, something I haven't seen them do in the past (in computer software anyway).

Think... I don't see anyone thinking in this thread. :hscratch:

;) :lol:

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How do we know this won't be a cheaper Xbox to manufacture than the current one?

We don't, and I don't think anyone's implied that.

The only cost I've seen mentioned is R&D costs in developing the new model. I suppose it could be cheaper and help outweigh these and cut down on losses. But in reality the smaller model probably won't generate many sales on it's own. I mean there can't be that many people out there that aren't buying one now because of it's size, or even many like me who list the size as a minor strike against picking one up.

Yup, it was implied.

R&D in developing the new model I doubt is anything significant.

I still don't see where it was implied. Maybe your reading too much into a comment as you and other x-box defenders tend to do.

As for R&D costs, that's anyones guess. But its still a cost that likely won't generate many sales as I doubt many people will buy a smaller x-box that wouldn't have eventually picked up the current model.

But again I personally applaud them for listening to consumer complaints and doing something about it.

I don't see where it was implied before I said it was implied in response to your implication that it was implied.

Where was it implied that I'm an X-Box defender before you implied it? That implication isn't necessary one that one should imply when it's not necessarily the type of implication that's impliable when it's not necessarily implicitly true.

No where, you've just always been fairly quick to question any perceived or real slights at that system, as I have with the GC. :D

Eh, I post under the psuedonyms IIG, mmconhea, and Kellehair when I talk about the cube or PS2. G-Pig is my Xbox moniker. :D

Shush...that's a bannable offense. :D

We'll since the cat's out of the bag, I post as Trigger when talking about the X-box. Fun to argue with myself too. When I really want to get into a good flame war I post under Joltaddict and then argue with myself.

Don't worry, I'm also Static Cling. :D

BTW, what's up with the "Hot New Member" status?

Pretty self-explanatory. :D