"A son sees the light on video violence" - newspaper commentary
#51
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It's a good thing his son didn't chew that piece of whole wheat bread into the shape of a gun at school. He would've gotten suspended under the "zero tolerance" policy.
#55
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Originally posted by joltaddict
If an opinion is formed from ignorance Im not going out on a limb to say its wrong.
If an opinion is formed from ignorance Im not going out on a limb to say its wrong.
To go along the lines of the NAMBLA analogy, take a look at "Age of Consent" laws in different states. Most people have an opinion of when people should legally be able to have sex, but when? Is it 18 (AZ)? 14 (HI)? If you think people aren't ready until 17 does that make more than half the states wrong? Or does it make you wrong? Neither, because one is objective (it is the law in ME, NH and NJ) and one is entirely subjective. (thank you to TwinTracker.com!)
And I hardly think that causally linking video games and violence is entirely ignorant behaviour -- there have been many studies that do seem to indicate such a link as well as many that show there is little to no link. To poop all over this guy's parade because your world views happen to clash with his could be viewed as fairly ignorant as well.
And I hope no one further confuses this discussion with political correctness (isn't that dog dead yet?), it has nothing to do with saying that joltaddict, or anyone else, cannot express his opinion, just that in the grand scheme of things their opinion will probably mean no more (and perhaps in this issue, certainly less) than the author of that piece.
Last edited by Fanboy; 01-14-03 at 04:02 PM.
#56
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Originally posted by einTier
What I hate is seeing someone harp on the "players get points by having sex with prostitutes and then killing them and taking their money" aspect of Grand Theft Auto.
Can you do it? Yes. But, it's a very small, small portion of a very big game. You don't have to do it, it's not intregal to the progression of the game. If no one told you about it, you might never even discover it. I can't tell you how many times I've seen threads here saying "how do you get the prostitutes in GTA3 to do the nasty?" You don't even get points for doing it, the prostitutes take the money you have, and if you kill them, you get it back.
I've played probably over 200 hours of GTA3 and Vice City, and I've done the prostitute trick maybe three times. I know I only did it once in Vice City, just to see if they took it out. In GTA3, I showed a few people, and did it once just to see it -- but it's really a dumb trick, and there are better, quicker, and easier ways to get health.
What I hate is seeing someone harp on the "players get points by having sex with prostitutes and then killing them and taking their money" aspect of Grand Theft Auto.
Can you do it? Yes. But, it's a very small, small portion of a very big game. You don't have to do it, it's not intregal to the progression of the game. If no one told you about it, you might never even discover it. I can't tell you how many times I've seen threads here saying "how do you get the prostitutes in GTA3 to do the nasty?" You don't even get points for doing it, the prostitutes take the money you have, and if you kill them, you get it back.
I've played probably over 200 hours of GTA3 and Vice City, and I've done the prostitute trick maybe three times. I know I only did it once in Vice City, just to see if they took it out. In GTA3, I showed a few people, and did it once just to see it -- but it's really a dumb trick, and there are better, quicker, and easier ways to get health.
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From: Beautiful (sterile) Johnson Co., KS
I just read this article. I have one thing to say:
That must have been the suckiest home to grow up in! Imagine having a Dad that was such a wuss! Worried about teaching him violence by wrestling with his kid. What a tool.
That must have been the suckiest home to grow up in! Imagine having a Dad that was such a wuss! Worried about teaching him violence by wrestling with his kid. What a tool.




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