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dechang 12-06-02 04:53 PM

xbox modifications
 
I was told that there is a way to modify your xbox to be able to save games onto the hard drive by replacing the hard drive. What are the materials that I need to do this? Is there a mod chip that is required? Know of any websites I could look this up on?

Liver&Onions 12-06-02 05:29 PM

no need to modify anything if you want to save games on the HD. That's what it's there for.

GatorDeb 12-06-02 05:38 PM

I think he means save WHOLE games in the hard drive. Which is why I think this thread will be closed soon.

Jeremy517 12-06-02 05:49 PM

As long as you're doing it for legit reasons, there should be no reason to close this thread.

You would need a bigger harddrive and a mod chip. If you have a mod chip, you might not be able to play on X-Box Live, depending on the chip.

I've been tempted to do it in case the DVD drive died, but I decided the cost and potential problems outweigh the benefits.

Gallant Pig 12-06-02 05:58 PM


Originally posted by GatorDeb
I think he means save WHOLE games in the hard drive. Which is why I think this thread will be closed soon.
Yeah I'm guessing the same thing. Course I could be wrong, but yeah, the HDD it comes with will let you put game saves on it already.

edstein 12-06-02 10:18 PM

IBTL

www.xboxhacker.net
www.xbox-scene.com

Peace.

MrSneis 12-06-02 10:57 PM

omg those sites are scary

gross@iastate 12-07-02 10:09 AM

Why can't people leave well enough alone? Somebody should forward these sites on to Microsoft. I have a feeling that modded Xboxes are going to ruin the Live experience.

Young Vito 12-07-02 10:23 AM


Originally posted by gross@iastate
Why can't people leave well enough alone? Somebody should forward these sites on to Microsoft. I have a feeling that modded Xboxes are going to ruin the Live experience.
1st of all...dont you think microsoft knows about these sites? They monitor these sites 24/7.

2nd- Modded xboxes will NOT ruin the "Live Experience", just the other day i was playing with a mame arcade emulator on my "modded" xbox, let me tell you, aint nothing like playin old classics like 1942, altered beast and shinobi on my xbox, simple looking games provided me more entertainment then most of these new games. There are MANY good things you can do with a modded xbox..

plus.....microsoft has blocked access to Live from a modded xbox...and dont worry....Live wont suffer when they do get it working ;)

andrew_randy 12-07-02 11:52 AM


Originally posted by gross@iastate
Why can't people leave well enough alone? Somebody should forward these sites on to Microsoft. I have a feeling that modded Xboxes are going to ruin the Live experience.
Personally, I'd much rather have a modded x-box with the
ability to use it as a computer with linux operating system than use the x-box live sevices. Thats a trade off I can deal with.

Once a peice of hardware leaves the store, and someone owns it, so long as they are not doing anything illegal with it, I don't see what business the manufacturer has with what the consumer does with it. Having a modchip doesn't mean someone will be using bootleg games.

JaxComet 12-07-02 12:09 PM


Originally posted by andrew_randy
Personally, I'd much rather have a modded x-box with the
ability to use it as a computer with linux operating system.


WHY???????????

gross@iastate 12-07-02 12:37 PM

I agree with most of your arguements for a modded Xbox. The only thing I'm worried about is people modifying games and cheating. This has ruined a lot of PC gaming and PS2 as well with the gameshark.

Also, why would you want to use Linux on an Xbox? It's a console not a computer.

spainlinx0 12-07-02 01:16 PM

I never understood the attraction to cheating in online games. It shows no skill, and eventually it will become a crutch.

Sloth911 12-07-02 02:45 PM

1. MS knows about these sites, and other already. it is very, very hard to get detailed information about copying xbox games onto a cd-r dvd-r. you can do a search on yahoo! and find many, many detailed tutoritals on copying PS1 games, but NOT for the xBox. many of the xBox hacking sites wont let you post an email, because of the high level of vigilance by MS.

2. From threads i have read, most users (not all) with a mod chip get booted from xBox live, some have been banned

3. equating a a mod chip w/ online cheating and ruining xBox live is not accurate, in the least.

4. modchips also allow for region free dvd playing, and region free game playing -- on this site there are pop up ads for region free DVD players, so it cant be all that evil

5. considering i have several hundred dollars in xBox games that are on crappy opitcal discs, i cant wait until xBox backups become the norm.....

6.why didnt they make xBox, ps2, and GC with digital meida, but with a protective case like a MiniDisc. of course the disc cartridge would be large, but it would be producted from my big fat greasy fingers, sratches, etc.

Centurion 12-08-02 09:51 AM

All good points although with #6 you shouldn't have to worry. These discs will out-live you. Only with carelessness would you ever scratch or grease-up a disc to the point where it is unreadable by the console.

Sloth911 12-08-02 10:13 AM

centurion -- that is my point, it would be nice (since the technology does exist) for the games to be a little more durable.

i agree that mishandling them causes the damage, but it would be nice if they were more protected.

but i agree, a cd/dvd without scratches/smudges should function for a pretty long time w/ no problems.

ALTHOUGH i get dirty disc erros with my brand spanking new GR disc about 1 out of every 5 times i play!

gross@iastate 12-08-02 10:38 AM


Originally posted by jasonr114


ALTHOUGH i get dirty disc erros with my brand spanking new GR disc about 1 out of every 5 times i play!

I got this a few times to. Plus it would just freeze up once in a while. After playing through the first 7 or so missions I haven't seen it since. Probably a faulty disc.

jeffdsmith 12-08-02 12:34 PM


Originally posted by gross@iastate


Also, why would you want to use Linux on an Xbox? It's a console not a computer.

I disagree. It is both. The xbox has everything you need in it, minus the proper software to use it as a pc. For 200 bucks you will be hard pressed to find a pc with the same power.

This is the one reason I'm considering picking up an xbox again for. They make great linux boxes.

Gallant Pig 12-08-02 12:54 PM

What do you do about a floppy drive, mouse, keyboard, and does the disc drive work as a CDROM/DVDROM?

Neil Bruce 12-08-02 09:19 PM

The XBox disc drive functions as the CD/DVD-ROM. An 80 or 120gb drive is a good substitute for the crappy 8gb standard one. With some minor soldering, you can add a USB port to the XBox motherboard to attach Keyboards, Mice, Cameras ... anything supported under Linux.

Now that the XBox Dev tools have been completely reverse-engineered, there will be many more programs and games ported to the XBox. I even tried a little Quake 2 on mine.

The XBox is incredibly versatile ... just like a PC in many ways. Personally, I spend far more time playing all my old SNES games in progressive scan through the XBox's nice Component outs than any of the new XBox games. That's probably not very encouraging to MS, but it's my system. They chose to sell it at a loss (though to be fair, I have 11 XBox games so MS is making money).

The feature to save your old Genesis or SNES games at any point is a huge plus. I used to hate slogging through an entire castle in Mario World only to die at the boss ... now a simple save outside the throne room lets me return at any time, almost instantly.

There are emulators for every system up to the Dreamcast (well, except for 3D0, CD-I and Saturn ... those twin Hitachi processors are a pain to emulate). Modding has made the XBox the best system I've ever owned (because it's essentially EVERY system I've ever owned) and in a weird way, has made me more aware of what MS is offering. I'll probably end up buying more games for XBox than I would have had I not modded my system.

Neil Bruce 12-08-02 09:20 PM

Plus I bought a second, virgin Xbox just to play XBLive.

Ralph Wiggum 12-08-02 09:38 PM


Originally posted by jasonr114
6.why didnt they make xBox, ps2, and GC with digital meida, but with a protective case like a MiniDisc. of course the disc cartridge would be large, but it would be producted from my big fat greasy fingers, sratches, etc.
Because then people wouldn't have to replace games that got scratched aka the only person who benefits is the consumer.

I've never been into importing or modding, but having all of the classic consoles and games on one convenient (non-PC) system is a great idea. I think that I'll probably turn my Xbox into a classic gaming arcade once the Xbox 2 is available as long as it is backwards compatible.

Sloth911 12-08-02 09:41 PM


Personally, I spend far more time playing all my old SNES games in progressive scan through the XBox's nice Component outs than any of the new XBox games. The feature to save your old Genesis or SNES games at any point is a huge plus. I used to hate slogging through an entire castle in Mario World only to die at the boss ... now a simple save outside the throne room lets me return at any time, almost instantly
i agree emulators on the pc are nice. i have s-video out on my PC and a usb playstation controller adaptor. i LOVE playing Megaman 1-5, mario, metroid on my tv w/ the ps2 controller, and being able to save at any time.

i wish had the know how, ability to make my xbox as versatile as yours, if i could, i would probably buy a second one!

Neil Bruce 12-08-02 10:59 PM

Look around www.easybuy2000.com and www.xbox-scene.com. You'll see that playing emulators and swapping hdds can be done with no soldering at all. If you research enough, and can use a screwdriver, it can be done. It's no big deal. Anyone who's ever done computer upgrades shouldn't have a problem.

dek 12-09-02 12:45 AM


Originally posted by Neil Bruce
Plus I bought a second, virgin Xbox just to play XBLive.
Only way to go once you install a chip and want to be on Live without fear of getting your XBOX banned for good :)

jeffdsmith 12-09-02 07:01 AM

I have 2 friends here n campus that have had their chipped xboxes on live since day one. They have yet to have any problems. Does anyone else here have a modded xbox online?

mtucker 12-09-02 11:34 AM

The XBox is the only console I've considered "modding". The uses for a modded XBox are almost limitless. I have no interest in using a modded XBox to play "backups" or to cheat during online games. I would like to be able to browse my XBox's hard drive over the network and retrieve game saves to see what sort of hacking can be done with them. I'd also be able to transfer my own (properly name) music collection over the network to the XBox without having to convert each CD one at a time with the XBox.

spainlinx0 12-09-02 12:03 PM

I have never had the urge to mod a system before, but you guys are really selling me with turning it into a classic gaming system. Still money is short right now, and if I was going to do that, it would be with a spare Xbox, and not my main system. I wouldn't do any "backups" or cheating though.

Neil Bruce 12-09-02 04:04 PM

In order to transfer music ... it's still a bit of a problem. The Xbox uses a custom codec which is widely available for the PC, but there's no utility to generate the proper nomenclature for the music files and add them to the album directory on the Xbox. It's definately coming, just not here yet. There's already a utility to share game saves and hack them though.

It's mighty great as a classic gaming system.

Roto 12-10-02 10:47 AM


Originally posted by dek
Only way to go once you install a chip and want to be on Live without fear of getting your XBOX banned for good :)
I did the same, and the only other console I ever owned was a Sega Master System.

I'm not too worried about cheaters on Xbox Live. It's too easy for MS to tell when you are connected to them, they could easily take action and go as far as banning your account. My modded Xbox got banned from Live on launch day. After Microsoft finally explained that's what they were doing I went ahead and bought a second Xbox and moved my Live account to it. The only problem with this so far is I've spent much more time playing old games on the modded box than anything on Live. But online play and surround sound have me totally sold on the Xbox's future, if only I had an HDTV. :drool:

For someone who was DYING for an Atari 2600 and Chuck E Cheese tokens when they were 8 years old, this is the ultimate toy! I stuck an 80 gig hard drive in there and have nearly every game system I ever wanted as a kid in one box. Now I just need to get my X-arcade stick :)

Young Vito 12-10-02 11:11 AM


Originally posted by dek
Only way to go once you install a chip and want to be on Live without fear of getting your XBOX banned for good :)
actually....i read that banning xboxes and maintaining a database of banned serials costs too much money/resources so MS isnt doing it anymore, i have also heard that they have found a way to "reset" xbox serial therefore allowing you to join up on Live again with the mod removed.

BTW
just last night i burned over 2000 roms on a dvdr with the snes emulator....wow...brought back so many memories....final fight, earthworm gym, donkey kong.........:thumbsup:


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