Me and my friends hated Twisted Metal Black. The friend who owned it traded the next day. We liked ATV ORF very much and will be looking forward to that game especially, but if the extra charge for individual games gets to be too much then the ps2 will sit in the penalty box and the Xbox will get all of the online playing time. I kinda like the Xbox specs for online play better anyway.

I've heard that FFXI will definately require a hardrive for online play. I don't remember hearing that the hardrive coming out for PS2 is official yet.

Since I can have both systems for playing online it's just my luck that Sony will somehow screw it up for me and I won't be able to afford both accounts.

Isn't SOCOM also a 3rd person shooter? Also will Bond- Nightfire be online?

Yes to Socom.

No to Bond.

Complete comparison. http://www.xbox.com/system/onlinespecsheet.htm

I feel that xbox live still has the advantage over the ps2

Im not an RPG kinda guy so the FF series isnt an attraction for me. The must haves (for me) are all Box titles or multi at this point.

As do I. This is why I'm buying the xbox. Granted, it's risky. I read in another thread, it's like 30 million ps2's to something to 4 million xbox (not sure, don't quote me). But it truly looks like xbox has the advantage in this category.

Where's all the people that was lucky enough to get picked for the Beta test of LIVE.... How is it? Revolt any good online, I heard they started shipping kits already.

Having both systems, I give the edge to XBOX; however, since I don't have broadband it looks like PS2 for me. XBOX could have been a much larger online player if they supported some narrowband. Just think I can buy a game a month for what DSL costs.

Think about how much I could buy if I only ate once a week. Broadband is my lifeblood.

I sure wish Capcom USA would get off their lazy asses and bring out:

Super Street Fighter 2 X(Super Turbo Here in the States)
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Street Fighter 3 Third Strike
Marvel Vs Capcom 2
Vampire Chronicles

They did it for the Japanese Dreamcast players.....now that broadband will be available to both Xbox and PS2 players I now see no reason why they cant bring fighting games to the arena. I can remember the glory days of XBAND for the SNES!!! Whippin someone elses ass in Street Fighter across the nation was too damn good!!

This clearly won't be coming out in 2002, but has Asheron's Call 2 been officially announced for Xbox yet? There've been plenty of rumors and the game is most certainly in the works, but any confirmation would be nice.

Tuan Jim