Microsoft interpreted the numbers so it sounded best. Note that Microsoft is boasting the largest percentage increase in the US. Because GCN had a larger percentage increase worldwide, and PS2 had a larger numerical sales spike in every market.

MS is trying to frame poor sales data in a way that makes it sound good. 3 million units worldwide in 8 months is not what Microsoft expected from Xbox.

You said "Xbox is tanking". I provided data which proves you are wrong. Xbox has had a large sales increase since it's price drop and is currently outselling Gamecube by 50% in the U.S.. So, obviously Xbox is not tanking. End of story. If you consider doubling their sales to be "poor sales" then that's fine.

Good lord enough. Who cares. You dont like the XBOX we know we know.

*shrugs*

How about the hardware? What peripherals are needed? Is the connector cord including with the xbox or is there some sort of "official pack" or something?

aka Fill in the blank:

my cable line ----> my cable modem ------> ______---->xbox

OK, boobie, I reread everything again just to make sure. I'm guessing that the online adapter that comes built in to the xbox is what I'm talking about. I'm sorry for the stupid questions (i'm no techie, and i haven't even got an xbox yet) and thank you for helping me. I'm gonna try and look for a "Hooking your broadband up to your xbox for dummies" book. I think part of the confusion is that when I had a ps2, in order to play tony hawk, you had to have all kinds of special cords and adapters because it wasn't really being supported by sony yet.

Most likely, you will need a router or a hub if you plan to use broadband on your computer and your XBox at the same time. Those are very cheap. Then all you need is regular cat5 network cable thats runs from your router to your xBox. That's it. Or you could run the cable from your cable modem directly into the xbox.

If you really want to have some fun, you can always run tons of cable from the router and install an ethernet jack in the wall in your XBox room.

I doubt anything will come with the XBox Live starter package in terms of cords.

Thanks Flay, so all I have to do is unhook my cable modem, and screw (plug) it right in to the xbox and I'm good to go? Shoot, I think I'll go buy an xbox over a ps2 right now if that's the case.

Not the actual cable that screws on for your cable tv broadcast.

The Cat 5 network cable which runs from your cable modem to your computer. You would unsnap it from the back of your computer and plug it directly into the XBox.

Or like I said before, just buy a router and you can have them both pluged in at same time.

Cool, thanks Flay, more than likely, I'll only need one plugged in at a time, unless I get too lazy to unscrew it everytime, which coincendentally, is very possible. OK, I think I'll go get my xbox, and maybe a demo mag to hold me over before Fever.

I found this link which was really helpful:

http://members.cox.net/xboxfaq/

Whoa, thanks for that link tygloalex!

Well, I was reading through the FAQ and I found something interesting:
Any thoughts on that?

I don't dislike Xbox. I think it's not a prudent purchase for anyone on a budget.

I dislike Xbox Live, because Microsoft is trying to maintain an iron grip over third parties. Microsoft's efforts to take control of things are well documented, and I prefer that they not control online gaming. The fact that Xbox has been completely unable to compete with PS2 in any market, suggests Microsoft won't be able to control much of anything for the next few years, though.



A Microsoft press release is not "data." The real independent numbers, of course, aren't available unless you buy them, but I suspect they would portray Xbox in a fading third place position worldwide, and any US advantage over Nintendo will likely be erased with the release of Nintendo's highly anticipated titles.

From a console war standpoint, PS2 is pounding Xbox, and Nintendo is a nonparticipant. Nintendo, unlike Sony and Microsoft, never lost money on the gamecube hardware, and with first party titles like Smash Bros selling almost 3 million worldwide units (nearly 2 copies for every 3 'cubes), Nintendo can reap sizable profits from a small userbase of enthusiastic Nintendo fans.

Microsoft's sales are certainly poor compared to Sony's. Before the Xbox launch, third parties were uneasy about aligning themselves with Sony in the face of Microsoft's impending onslaught. They've since gotten a lot more comfortable with the idea.

Well, I would say what you suspect is highly questionable given your stance with regards to Xbox. However, the real numbers are available and have been corroborated by independent sources. It doesn't matter if you're unhappy with the results. Bottom line, your unsupported claim that Xbox is "tanking" is not backed up by the facts. If you want to convince anybody, you're going to need to produce factual data that supports your claim.

Thanks again Scandal for staying on topic.

If you want to debate the merits of Xbox Live or Sony's online plans or Nintendo's plans, this is the place for it. If you want to rant on about sales numbers, try and find a suitable thread.

Nobody is disputing that Sony is the leader in this generation. However, that doesn't prove your claim that Xbox is "tanking". As for Nintendo, I think they might argue with your contention.

Uneasy about aligning themselves with Sony? That's a good one. It was actually quite the opposite. Third parties were initially reluctant to support the Xbox until Microsoft demonstrated a successful launch. Now, nearly every third party game is ported to Xbox because the publishers can't ignore the extra money to be made from Xbox's growing userbase.

XBOX is trying to maintain iron grip over EA online...Rockstar...Squaresoft...oh wait no no no...thats PS2. The main reason a 3rd party would choose XBOX over PS2 for online is that XBOX is broadband ready. If J6P is playing 2k3 with dial-up and gets a lag he will get pissed, and next year he may buy Madden instead. So in turn SEGA wants to go the route with highest performance, ie: the route that makes their game look the best.

Budget asssumes the $$$ amt. Ie I have $200 alotted for a console, how is it any less prudent than PS2 since it is the same price? New games are the same price...???

Actually PS2 is in its own generation. XBOX and GC are next gen consoles...am I right?

Because "Xbox is tanking"? Yeah, right.

Okay, okay. We give up, Scandal. Xbox is flailing miserably. All Microsoft executives should be sterilized to prevent their stupidity from reaching future generations.

And in case any more talk of sales pops up, we'll agree to write that even in the US, MS's strongest territory, Gamecube holds the third position while Xbox is next-to-last.

Well, according to Scandal, the Xbox is tanking, so that's his logic.

I bet they are getting a negative reaction to Revolt, even if it's free. I bet we will still see Revolt as a pack in game, but also something extra.

Perhaps that's what they meant at E3 when they said an online version of Halo and PGR was in the works. A pack-in version of the multiplayer levels, totally online, from Halo would certainly sell XBox Live starter kits.

Or it could be PSO. But that's not really not huge.