yeah they said they would hit 11 million by years end. they will not make that however. I do think around 8 million maybe as high as 9 million.

The GC will hit 12 million or close to it I bet with the powerhitters coming up. if the games start getting pushed back well...

PS2 was around 22 Million the last I saw. So I would guess 35 million with a price drop and some good games coming out this year.

This was posted today on Xengamers --

"Sony is expected to dethrone Matsushita as the world's largest consumer electronics maker, with 2001/02 sales of a record 7.58 trillion yen. More impressive, Sony projects revenue of 8.0 trillion yen for 2002/03. Last year Sony shipped 18 million PlayStation 2 units, which is expected to increase to 20 million in 2002/2003. Sony shares have risen more than 81 percent from their post September 11 low of 3,960 yen"

Okay, upon reading this original article:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...edia_nm/sony_3

It makes it much clearer. Sony plans to ship 20 million units in 2002/2003, in addition to the 18 million it has already shipped in 2001.

20 million more or a total of 38 million

I searched out the original Yahoo! document, and changed my post.

But 38 million isn't correct either, since the PS2 came out in 2000. The 18 + 20 million do not account for the units shipped in 2000.

I think they hit 18 million in total units shipped by the end of 2001 which includes 2000 totals. around feb they were over 20 million and as of now I think they at around 22-25 million. I have not heard firm figures recently. this is why i figured 35 million in my post above.

I guess Sony is figuring 38 million or 15 million more than the figures from GC and XBox combined.

By the way to keep on target with the original thread topic.

i do not think that Square will release a FF to the GC. only a GBA game or games.

Sony had there 20 million a while ago. I was just wondering what they are projected to be at, at year's end.

38 million

So if Sony and Nintendo hit their own expectations, Nintendo would roughly have as many as 33% of GC's sold as the # of Sony PS2's.

So anyone that claims that companies are just going to ignore the GC because of a smaller user base ain't thinking to clearly.

When you factor in that many people in japan bought a PS2 just as a DVD player, the % is even better to support development.

Sony has given Square a heck of a lot of support in exchange for exclusive games. Going exclusive has benefits for a third party, because the console maker provides publicity, lowered license fees, etc.

For Square, Sony funded a lot of their $150 million movie, and then took most of the losses when the film tanked in the theater.

That's why Final Fantasy XI, which clearly would have benefitted a great deal from being on the XBox will be PS2 exclusive. Because Square owes Sony, and Sony has been very good to Square.