Recently we received solid confirmation from a source that stated, yes, the Xbox would release early in North America if certain conditions were met. Here are the details:


If Microsoft produces all 800,000 systems that it needs to meet retail commitments in North America (which is 500,000 for the US and 300,000 for Canada), the Xbox will release on Thursday, November 1st, 2001. Exactly one week earlier than previously announced. This will only happen if MS gets the right number produced in advance. If not, the official date will remain November 8."

-IGNXbox


Kick ass!

Always nice when things are released early, I was actually checking up on this system but damn, I found out the controller's are $40!! Why so expensive for a modified sidewinder pad. Is there rumble capabilities in it that makes it so expensive?

Controller Specs:

I like the really long cables. I though my dreamcast cables were long and they are only 6.5 feet! I will never have to move my XBox just to play it.

Gotcha! Guess there was more to it inside than I thought, thanks for the info.

Oooooo...a week early for a system that has no games I am interested in. I'm pretty pumped!

Seriously though, I don't remember any system that I bought that didn't have at least one game I was interested in at launch. Possibly the Atari 2600 as I was young and not sure if we got it when it just came out or not. Other than the possibility of that there hasn't been a system without a game I wanted at launch.

I reserve judgement until I see something and see some reviews of these games. Maybe I will buy an X-Box down the road.

Ah AgtFox, on time with your usual XBox bash. Good Job!

The last system that launched early was the Saturn and it was a disaster. Microsoft needs to make sure they are organized. Of course the Saturn was in the days before preorders were popular, so many people were caught off guard by the early release.

This was about how the Xbox could get released a week early and you go on about how there's no games you like? It seems if there's a thread about the Xbox here, you're right in there to give your opinion about how it sucks.

Since Nintendo has delayed the launch of the gamecube a few weeks, I don't think Microsoft has a reason any longer to rush the X-box release and do it a week earlier.

Releasing XBOX a week earlier is a good idea as long as it's not rushed, but it will give a big heads up on GCs week delay.

Who cares what you're interested in?

What is that supposed to mean?...That the XB too will be a disaster?

I really hope that some of you are young teenagers. Maybe that will explain the juvenile attitude that some of you have.

I never said the X-Box sucked. It is a powerful machine. I may buy it, I am just reserving judgement on it. Sorry I brought up the games here...sheesh.

Here's a serious question though, since I read that Munch's Odyssey had some storyline changes done (or is in the process of it), would it make it out if X-Box came out a week before? I'm sure most of the launch titles are done and have been or are in the process of being pressed, I was just wondering if you guys thought Munch's Odyssey will make it on Sept. 1st should the system come out a week before.

However, I've never said the X-Box sucks. I admire a company like Microsoft taking this chance with bringing out a system and putting a lot of money behind it. I have however said that I am not interested in any of the games that are coming out at launch for the X-Box. I have not been able to play them yet and when I get a chance to, maybe I will like said launch games.

Maybe you guys should re-read my statements on the X-Box. I have no problem with the system by itself, just the games that are sequels of games I didn't like or did like (Munch, DOA3, Project Gotham, Jet Grind Future), original PC games that are a shell of what they were supposed to be (Halo), ports from other systems (Madden 2002, MGS2, Silent Hill 2) or games that are being ported to other systems from X-Box (Malice). Their original games look nice, but the ideas for them so far have not excited me.

I've been into video games for a long time and I'm sorry I brought games into this...you're right, the thread isn't about that. However, other threads in this forum have turned into things that the thread isn't about as well. I shouldn't be called a troll for bringing up ideas that don't go with yours. I have examples behind my ideas and I'm not just saying "This sucks!" or "X-Box sucks!", I'm substantiating why I think the games aren't that interesting.

Lately I've held off on buying systems. I held off on my PS2 and I will hold off on both an X-Box and a Gamecube should I decide to get either, both or neither. However, I am an equal opportunity player. Current systems I own (that still produce games) are Playstation, N64, Dreamcast and PS2. I'm not one-sided on my arguments and am open to everyone's ideas and opinions. However, I should be entitled to my opinion as well and not be treated as a troll.

I think I've said my peace. I shall try not bring up the X-Box games anymore as I've laid out my feelings on them here, whether it is on-topic or not. However, should another X-Box thread come up talking about games, I may get into it again. It doesn't hurt to have discussions about the games because that is what makes or breaks a system, not the hardware. Thanks for listening.

I don't think the X-Box will fail. I don't know if it will become #1 or not though. It will be interesting to sit back and watch while I decide whether to get one or not.

I am not a teenager for your information, I'm in my mid-20s. I'm sorry for my snide comments above. It has not been a very good day for me, one of my fiancee's friends she grew up with died in a car crash last night. I was at the scene 30 min. before it happened on my way home. She had a feeling someone died and she was worried it might have been me.

Sorry to lash out at everyone. I just see all these X-Box threads about things and I feel I need to counterpoint things I feel strongly about. A person like Flay is highly behind the X-Box while I am more apprehensive about it. I make my point known because other users on this forum repeat their points as well. Maybe if we made a 1 and only discussion on X-Box things wouldn't have to be repeated.

I'm done with work for the day. Sorry if I pissed anyone off, I hope my post from above explains things a little more. Thanks for listening.

It's all good, AgtFox. Just hold off on posting unless it is about the topic at hand.

Or you could start a thread with what you wrote in your first post. I don't think anyone would have a problem with that. You are certainly entitled to your own opinion. But in this case, it was in the wrong place.

Sorry to hear about your day. Hope it gets better for you.

Oh and your question about the release dates of games is a good one.

I doubt Microsoft will push up the date without games to sell with it. They will only push up the date if the consoles and the games are ready for release.

Concerning Munch, I read that they were removing a portion on the game that really didn't fit with the storyline. A little retooling is all it should need. From what I understand, the game is complete. They are just doing a little minor tweaking.

I never doubted that a majority of the games would be out should the release be a week earlier, was just wondering about Munch since the storyline change was a news story lately.

No, I was making a point that you have to be careful when launching early. Sega didn't get organized with many of the third parties releasing games and they ended up with a console and next to no software. Also explained that with preorders being more popular this may not be such a big worry.

Nothing juvenile about that and I never said it would make the Xbox fail, you did. You are the one that seems to be making the juvenile insults.

Um... I posted this a month ago.

http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...hreadid=131035

And then we had a followup poll two weeks later...

http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...hreadid=133957

Search is good.

Jumping on the conversation late.. but regarding the controller.

I've gone into XBox labs and done game/usability testing for the system, and I have to say that the controller, while the button/pad placement is excellent (very intuative), the controller itself is quite large. I have small hands (yeah yeah, people have said I have girl-hands), and the controller is just too hefty for me to use for more than an hour or so. I still think that the Playstation/PS2 Dual Shock controller is the perfect size for any kind/length of gaming.

It does have rumble capability, I believe the intensity is variable. It was natural enough when I was playing that I didn't really "notice" it.

I expect to see lots of people importing the Japanese controllers. The US ones are too big for my taste.