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Samuel 02-26-01 08:43 PM

What a season finale!

Spoiler:
How come nobody noticed Reverend Clutia was missing? What a f'd up way to go.

I really thought Beecher was gonna go free, that sucks.

Kareem Said was awesome when he took out Schillinger and damn Agustus takin' care of Supreme Allah.


Why are the seasons so damn short, how much longer till we see new episodes?

Spicollidriver1 02-26-01 09:47 PM

I love this show, where's my dvds. :)

tsohg 02-26-01 11:58 PM

The DVD's should be coming soon according to ign.com and the new season wont start until April 2002 :( that is waaaaaay too long but they will rebroadcast seasons 1-3 in the meantime :) time to finally get TIVO

Alexwfan 02-27-01 12:07 AM

Where did you hear that the next season is not airing until April 2002? I thought the new season started in July! Please tell me that the 2002 comment was just a cruel joke!

Nightflyer 02-27-01 02:08 AM

Oz's fifth season to air this summer
 
Here's an excerpt from the Philadelphia Inquirer 01/04/2001:

When HBO couldn't guarantee Oz's renewal, Fontana shot two different endings for the eighth episode. One was a series finale, the other a cliffhanger.

The cliffhanger won. HBO gave Oz a go, and production on the next batch of eight episodes will begin in April at an old naval yard [Marine Ocean Terminal] in Bayonne, N.J., for showing this summer.

Danny in Yorktown, VA.


Red Dog 02-27-01 09:12 AM

I just started watching OZ about 6 or 7 episodes ago. It is fantastic. I definitely need the DVDs for this series since I have only recently discovered it. The deal with the Reverend was really spooky - seriously, don't they have a bed check to count all the inmates?

Spicollidriver1 02-27-01 11:35 AM

Re: Oz's fifth season to air this summer
 

Originally posted by Nightflyer
Here's an excerpt from the Philadelphia Inquirer 01/04/2001:

When HBO couldn't guarantee Oz's renewal, Fontana shot two different endings for the eighth episode. One was a series finale, the other a cliffhanger.

The cliffhanger won. HBO gave Oz a go, and production on the next batch of eight episodes will begin in April at an old naval yard [Marine Ocean Terminal] in Bayonne, N.J., for showing this summer.

Danny in Yorktown, VA.


Woohoo!!!!

Pillowhead 02-27-01 01:58 PM

This show rocks! I started watching this when I got a dish. Picked up where that french guy killed like four or five people. Saw some chunks of episodes before that. This is the best show on television. Sopranos and Buffy are 2nd and third.

Samuel 03-01-01 09:07 PM

I just realized, the kitchen blowing up could mean 2 things for Rev. Cludiya (or however it's spelled)

1. The explosion blew him up, leaving no evidence of his death.

Or

2. The explosion caused the wall he was buried behind to break away, allowing him to be found and rescued.

I actually like his charachter, especially after what went down, it'd be great for him to show up those fools that buried him alive.

filmguy 03-01-01 09:22 PM

The season finale was ****in-a! I LOVE OZ, NOW GIVE ME A DAMN DVD BOX SET HBO.

Oh yeah, OZ got renewed for a 5th season. They will start shooting new season for OZ this FALL or possible late summer.

WOOO-WHOOO!!!

[Edited by filmguy on 03-01-01 at 07:24 PM]

Foole 03-02-01 01:25 AM

Nahh, don't think the Rev. Cloutier (another spelling?) would be alive...the kitchen either blasted his body apart or at least blew the wall apart allowing his body to be found.

But if the writers wanna try to explain that he will be RESCUED...I'd like to see how they explain that...:)


Foole 03-02-01 01:28 AM


Originally posted by tsohg
The DVD's should be coming soon according to ign.com and the new season wont start until April 2002 :( that is waaaaaay too long but they will rebroadcast seasons 1-3 in the meantime :) time to finally get TIVO

I thought the reason we don't already have DVDs is because of Rysher (distributor). Where on ign.com did you hear differently??

BRING ON THE DISCS...:thumbsup:

Baron Of Hell 05-28-08 10:42 AM

The last two seasons were horrible. The show really went downhill fast. But on a different note I notice a lot of people from Dexter in the series. I wonder if they ending the series early and still had people on contract so said what the hell lets use them on Dexter.

My Other Self 05-28-08 10:48 AM

I was a huge, huge fan of Oz when it originally ran. A lot of the ex-cast wound up on Law & Order: SVU which honestly, is why I started watching it.

Still wish Ernie Hudson would find another starring vehicle.

Wolf359 05-28-08 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by Baron Of Hell
The last two seasons were horrible. The show really went downhill fast. But on a different note I notice a lot of people from Dexter in the series. I wonder if they ending the series early and still had people on contract so said what the hell lets use them on Dexter.

:hscratch: Oz ended four years before Dexter started...and on a different Network.

rfduncan 05-28-08 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by Baron Of Hell
The last two seasons were horrible. The show really went downhill fast. But on a different note I notice a lot of people from Dexter in the series. I wonder if they ending the series early and still had people on contract so said what the hell lets use them on Dexter.

Except OZ was an HBO show and Dexter is a Showtime show...

Baron Of Hell 05-28-08 11:01 AM

Couldn't they be on contract with the producer. For example Joss used a bunch of firefly people on different networks.

rfduncan 05-28-08 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by Baron Of Hell
Couldn't they be on contract with the producer. For example Joss used a bunch of firefly people on different networks.

But that was the same production company (Mutant Enemy), Tom Fontana's production company has nothing to do with Dexter. I think it is just a coincidence.

RichC2 05-28-08 12:28 PM

Now THAT is a thread resurrection.

TheBigDave 05-28-08 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by mcfly
I was a huge, huge fan of Oz when it originally ran. A lot of the ex-cast wound up on Law & Order: SVU which honestly, is why I started watching it.

I was always wondering about the connection between L&O and Oz. The OZ people have been all over every L&O series. Of course by now, who hasn't made at least a cameo on L&O?

saoirse 05-28-08 04:32 PM

Strange resurrection indeed.

Great show, all seasons (unlike Sopranos which sucked major ballz after season 3).

Baron Of Hell 05-28-08 05:01 PM

I just finished the series yesterday, so search for thread about it.

Jimmy James 05-28-08 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by TheBigDave
I was always wondering about the connection between L&O and Oz. The OZ people have been all over every L&O series. Of course by now, who hasn't made at least a cameo on L&O?

When shows air in New York (or was it New Jersey at points for Oz?), the pool of TV actors is somewhat smaller than it would be for shows shot in LA. The pool of actors that are cut out for this sort of graphic drama is probably even smaller (remember that the biggest overlap is SVU to Oz).

An4h0ny 05-28-08 05:48 PM

Waaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllllllllt!!!!

BJacks 05-28-08 05:55 PM

I seem to remember Oz starting out as a gritty, partially realistic depiction of prison life, and towards the end seasons completely disintegrating into absurdly cartoonish plotlines and situations.

FatTony 05-28-08 06:57 PM


Originally Posted by BJacks
I seem to remember Oz starting out as a gritty, partially realistic depiction of prison life, and towards the end seasons completely disintegrating into absurdly cartoonish plotlines and situations.

That's how I felt about it too. Seasons 4-6 were blind buys for me, and I wish I hadn't. Season 3 wasn't quite up to par either, but I loved seasons 1 and 2.

Jimmy James 05-28-08 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by BJacks
I seem to remember Oz starting out as a gritty, partially realistic depiction of prison life, and towards the end seasons completely disintegrating into absurdly cartoonish plotlines and situations.

Oz did eventually become a parody of itself, but I think I have talked to enough criminal defendants to be able to represent that a more accurate accounting of the early seasons is to suggest it was a parody of prison life.

I heard the author of the new James Bond novel on NPR today, and he described parody as turning the source material up to 125%. I would submit that Oz was at 125% at the start and was probably up to 150% by the end. To me, it was perfectly acceptable.

Da Thrilla 05-29-08 03:35 AM


Originally Posted by RichC2
Now THAT is a thread resurrection.

:lol: I was thinking the same thing. Here are some stats for fun...

March 2, 2001 - May 28, 2008

7 years, 2 months, 26 days
2644 days
228,441,600 seconds
3,807,360 minutes
63,456 hours
377 weeks
rotfl

marty888 05-29-08 07:04 AM

Lee Tergesen (Tobias Beecher) is currently appearing in the play <i>GOOD BOYS AND TRUE</i> at the Second Stage Theater in NYC.

DeanoBKN 05-29-08 09:33 AM

Once they started killing off characters left and right for shock value, that's when the show jumped the shark for me, but I still loved it till the very last episode.

Wow, this thread brings back memories of my early days on the forum, waiting for the next season to be announced for release on DVD. The wait each year was horrible!

My Other Self 05-29-08 10:19 AM

I wondered what happened to Beecher. Same with that one Italian kid.. the one that escaped in Season 2 or 3 and was on the fun.

Oh man, what fun.

My Other Self 05-29-08 10:19 AM

I wondered what happened to Beecher. Same with that one Italian kid.. the one that escaped in Season 2 or 3 and was on the run.

Oh man, what fun.

tsohg 05-29-08 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by BJacks
I seem to remember Oz starting out as a gritty, partially realistic depiction of prison life, and towards the end seasons completely disintegrating into absurdly cartoonish plotlines and situations.

The age pill crap and The Rev Coultier (luke perry) rising and disappearing like Christ killed it for me but I stayed down to the very last ep and was sad to see it go.

bluetoast 05-29-08 12:04 PM

I agree that the later seasons got ridiculous. It was good up until

Spoiler:

The episode with Adebisi's death. After that, it went downhill. But there were some good notes in the later seasons, like Cyril's death. But come on, age pill...storing immigrants in the prison, killing someone with a dart, some of that was ridiculous.

story 05-29-08 12:08 PM

Yes, I agree there were some outrageous moments and storylines in a series which hoped to depict maximum security prison life with some level of accuracy. That said, I think it's great drama and it sucked me in. My Oz DVDs get lent out more than anything else. It's the first tv series my fiancee and I watched together as a couple and she fell in love with it. Well, she fell in love with Adebisi, but that's beside the point!

Original Desmond 05-29-08 12:57 PM

the man on man rape scenes were too explicit for my innocent eyes

JZ1276 05-29-08 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by bluetoast
I agree that the later seasons got ridiculous. It was good up until

Spoiler:

The episode with Adebisi's death. After that, it went downhill. But there were some good notes in the later seasons, like Cyril's death. But come on, age pill...storing immigrants in the prison, killing someone with a dart, some of that was ridiculous.

how about Jeremiah Clutea (sp?) appearing in peoples cells as a ghost or Maxim doing a photo shoot with some of the prisoners as models.

bunkaroo 05-29-08 02:09 PM

One of the best theme songs ever!

My ex-drummer and I (bass) would jam that at the beginning of some gigs when we were warming up. It was most gratifying when one time I heard a guy yell form the back of the bar "AAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHZZ!".

BJacks 05-29-08 02:19 PM

The best story I've ever heard about a series is that the show producers would "punish" actors who arrived late to rehearsal, etc. by writing in scenes where those actors would get thrown naked into the hole.

MrE 06-04-08 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by BJacks
The best story I've ever heard about a series is that the show producers would "punish" actors who arrived late to rehearsal, etc. by writing in scenes where those actors would get thrown naked into the hole.

I think it was more a rite of passage, like joining a fraternity. That's why some of the guest actors were willing to put it out there.

While the later seasons were less realistic, I thought it freed them to examine more abstract issues.


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