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Old 01-24-23, 08:07 AM
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The Last of Us (Part 1 and 2) / Show and Game Spoilers Thread

Mods, feel free to delete if this is repetitive but I think, with this show, we're in a unique spot when it comes to discussion. I just went to write a post in the current episode thread and realized I couldn't really write it without spoilers for the game. I imagine some watching the show HAVEN'T played the game and may want to, not wanting to know changes the series has done.

So, I figured I'd create a thread that could cover both games and the coming second season (based on Game 2), where those of us who have played can pop in some game spoilers as it relates to show discussion without our entire posts being under spoiler tags.

There's already been some subtle things in the threads that may give things away if you think about it so I figure this thread can be a catch all for spoilers while the episodes can stand on their own.

Again, if it's too much, ditch this thread and we can pop tags in the main episode threads.
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Re: The Last of Us (Part 1 and 2) / Show and Game Spoilers Thread

For example:

Last night's episode had some interesting changes from the game:

-The removal of FEDRA from the story and the part they play in the game during the museum scene
-Ellie being bitten, again, as opposed to the game scene of her breathing in spores being the moment Joel believes her story

I listened to the after show podcast where they explained some of this. They don't plan to have spores on the show (at least not as much as the game, anyway). I suppose I get that. You spend a lot of time in the game in a gas mask which isn't a good look to showcase your stars on a tv show.

Still, IMO, Ellie being bitten AGAIN was redundant and kind of took away a bit from Tess being bitten. I guess there wasn't another way to have that moment where Joel finally believes her immunity if not the spores scene.

The creators said the FEDRA change came because they felt they had no reason for them to be on patrol at the museum. If I recall, in the game, they are enforcing curfew.

The connected infected is an interesting change, too, as is them being able to sense others like them.
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Re: The Last of Us (Part 1 and 2) / Show and Game Spoilers Thread

This should be a helpful thread - I know in the early Game of Thrones days the book readers were not usually as accommodating.
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Re: The Last of Us (Part 1 and 2) / Show and Game Spoilers Thread

I also liked the foreshadowing of Ellie and Riley though I believe they changed up how she was found by Marlene. In the show Ellie says that she was found AFTER she was bitten but in the add on to the game, if I recall correctly, Marlene was already present and mentioned.
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Re: The Last of Us (Part 1 and 2) / Show and Game Spoilers Thread

Refresh my memory since it has been a minute. In the game, was it a thing where if you touched the cordyceps tentacles they sensed it and transmitted it to the infected? It seems vaguely familiar but I don't exactly remember that.
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Re: The Last of Us (Part 1 and 2) / Show and Game Spoilers Thread

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Refresh my memory since it has been a minute. In the game, was it a thing where if you touched the cordyceps tentacles they sensed it and transmitted it to the infected? It seems vaguely familiar but I don't exactly remember that.
In the podcast, they said that was a new addition to the show and not part of the game.
In Part 2 more infected bust out of fungus in the walls but touching them never did anything in the game.
Marginally stepping on a small piece of glass, however...
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Re: The Last of Us (Part 1 and 2) / Show and Game Spoilers Thread

Another significant change is them not using airborne spores for infection but rather the “tendrils” from an infected person’s mouth (which reminds me a bit of The Strain).

The cynic in me is thinking Pascal was not willing to wear a respirator mask after spending so much time in a helmet in the Manadalorian.
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Re: The Last of Us (Part 1 and 2) / Show and Game Spoilers Thread

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Another significant change is them not using airborne spores for infection but rather the “tendrils” from an infected person’s mouth (which reminds me a bit of The Strain).

The cynic in me is thinking Pascal was not willing to wear a respirator mask after spending so much time in a helmet in the Manadalorian.
Yeah, I mentioned they talked about removing the spores in the podcast. They didn't say, why, though, but I also assumed it was to not have the leads in gas masks for most of the episodes.
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Re: The Last of Us (Part 1 and 2) / Show and Game Spoilers Thread

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Another significant change is them not using airborne spores for infection but rather the “tendrils” from an infected person’s mouth (which reminds me a bit of The Strain).

The cynic in me is thinking Pascal was not willing to wear a respirator mask after spending so much time in a helmet in the Manadalorian.
The tendrils are a cool addition. I don't think the tendrils are what necessarily spreads the fungus though ... or maybe those come out during the bite? In Tess's case, I believe the clicker sensed she was infected but not connected to the rest of them. It was trying to "connect" her.
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Yeah, I mentioned they talked about removing the spores in the podcast. They didn't say, why, though, but I also assumed it was to not have the leads in gas masks for most of the episodes.
They actually did ... spores do not stay "localized" as portrayed in the game. They float all over as the air currents carry them. They didn't think that suspension of belief would hold up for the show.
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Re: The Last of Us (Part 1 and 2) / Show and Game Spoilers Thread

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They actually did ... spores do not stay "localized" as portrayed in the game. They float all over as the air currents carry them. They didn't think that suspension of belief would hold up for the show.
I'll have to go back and relisten to the podcast. I just remember them saying that there will be no spores. I mean, I would've bought into that notion but I guess I understand the rational for not including something that was airborne.

Though they did touch on the masks in an interview with Polygon:

“The show [is] taking a more realistic approach to the story and the world,” The Last of Us writer and co-creator Neil Druckmann told Polygon. “If we wanted to treat it realistically, and there are spores near, characters would wear gas masks all the time. Then we lose so much, which is maybe the most important part of the journey is what’s going on inside behind their eyes, in their soul, in their beings. For that logistical reason, we were like, Let’s find a different vector.”

“[We wanted] to feel like these things are interconnected. They can come out against us as a mass,” Druckmann said. “But also how they pass it from one person to the other, it just became this really disturbing thing, which was like, Oh, this is delicious. We have to use this.”

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Re: The Last of Us (Part 1 and 2) / Show and Game Spoilers Thread

Yeah, I'm glad they changed the method of how the infection spreads. The TV version is more compelling and provides for some additional lore if they want to explore that stuff, which it sounds like they do.

I'm enjoying this much more than I expected I would, but I'm really looking forward to how they tackle Part 2. The storytelling convention used in the game works because it's a game. I'm not sure the same thing would work for the show, because I could see a LOT of people dropping off at certain points.
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Yeah, I'm glad they changed the method of how the infection spreads. The TV version is more compelling and provides for some additional lore if they want to explore that stuff, which it sounds like they do.

I'm enjoying this much more than I expected I would, but I'm really looking forward to how they tackle Part 2. The storytelling convention used in the game works because it's a game. I'm not sure the same thing would work for the show, because I could see a LOT of people dropping off at certain points.
I'm going to assume they crosscut between Abby and Ellie after the main confrontation at the start as opposed doing one season with Ellie and one as Abby with things converging at the end as it is in the game.
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I'll have to go back and relisten to the podcast. I just remember them saying that there will be no spores. I mean, I would've bought into that notion but I guess I understand the rational for not including something that was airborne.

It may have been on the TV segment that airs after the show ... The podcast seems like an expanded version of that, covering the same topics.
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Re: The Last of Us (Part 1 and 2) / Show and Game Spoilers Thread

Interesting article:
Zombie fungus: Could 'The Last of Us' happen in real life? | CNN

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Just finished Part 2, I don't know how they are going to adapt that in only one season.

I also feel the show will lose like half the audience next season. That Abby scene was very Negan-like, and that's the point when a lot of people were turned off by The Walking Dead.

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I've been trying to keep the viewing experience as close to the game experience as possible. I watch 5-7 minutes at a time, then back it up 2-3 minutes.
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Just finished Part 2, I don't know how they are going to adapt that in only one season.
I’m pretty sure they’ve said they intend to break up Part 2 into 2 seasons.
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Re: The Last of Us (Part 1 and 2) / Show and Game Spoilers Thread

I'm a little surprised they structured season 1 as the whole first game. I think it should have been 2 seasons at minimum. I almost think game two can be stretched out to a season per act. You end season 2 with Joel's death. You end season 3 with Abby & Elle's confrontation where she lets Elle live. You end season 4 with their second confrontation where Elle lets Abby go.

It's a fine line to walk because I think by the end of this season everyone watching is going to love the Elle - Joel dynamic and want to see what comes next. But with Joel dying almost right away in the second game I feel like that will hurt this show's longevity. Viewers only getting like 12 episodes of Joel before he's dead might be an easy point for people to jump off of the show.

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