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lwhy? 08-26-22 12:34 PM

NBC is Considering Cutting an Hour of Primetime
 
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv...me-1235206737/

Fox and the CW already do this. If NBC cuts the 10PM Eastern/9PM Central hour will ABC and CBS follow them? As someone that works for a local tv station, it would generate more revenue for local stations. They would essentially have an hour or 90 minute newscast from 10PM to 1130PM or the networks could give them the hour and start the late night talk shows 30 minutes earlier.

DJariya 08-26-22 12:42 PM

Re: NBC is Considering Cutting an Hour of Primetime
 
That would hurt the Law and Orders and the Chicago shows. Since they all air the same day, they would have to move one. That is of course if they continue to air beyond this season.

But I’m guessing if this happens, it wouldn’t happen until 2023-24.

lwhy? 08-26-22 12:44 PM

Re: NBC is Considering Cutting an Hour of Primetime
 

Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 14154258)
That would hurt the Law and Orders and the Chicago shows. Since they all air the same day, they would have to move one. That is of course if they continue to air beyond this season.

But I’m guessing if this happens, it wouldn’t happen until 2023-24.

The article says it won't happen until the 2023-2024 season since the schedule for the 2022-2023 season is already locked in.

fujishig 08-26-22 12:57 PM

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I understand the benefit for the local stations running local programming, but what's in it for NBC? They just don't want to create as much content?

Decker 08-26-22 01:06 PM

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Hokeyboy 08-26-22 01:16 PM

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In a streaming world, broadcast television networks are kind of a relic (save for news, sports, live entertainment, and not by all that much), save for low-income and no- or spotty-Internet areas. I expect the contraction to continue rapidly in the next decade.

DJariya 08-26-22 01:23 PM

Re: NBC is Considering Cutting an Hour of Primetime
 

Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 14154266)
I understand the benefit for the local stations running local programming, but what's in it for NBC? They just don't want to create as much content?

Linear TV ratings have become abysmal over the last 10 to 15 years. Without much ad money for live TV, it’s probably becoming too expensive to continue to make new scripted content 3 hours per day, 6 days per week.

Remember when this forum used to cared about linear TV ratings?

fujishig 08-26-22 01:30 PM

Re: NBC is Considering Cutting an Hour of Primetime
 

Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 14154284)
Linear TV ratings have become abysmal over the last 10 to 15 years. Without much ad money for live TV, it’s probably becoming too expensive to continue to make new scripted content 3 hours per day, 6 days per week.

Remember when this forum used to cared about linear TV ratings?

I guess I always assumed that the content could go to streaming like right after, giving more content to streaming without having to fund a lot separately.

MLBFan24 08-26-22 01:33 PM

Re: NBC is Considering Cutting an Hour of Primetime
 
I watch everything via Hulu DVR or On Demand, so the actual timeslot doesn't matter to me. My local NBC station has the best local news crew, so a change would be a positive for me.

Count Dooku 08-26-22 02:00 PM

Re: NBC is Considering Cutting an Hour of Primetime
 
Makes perfect sense, but I would like to see them devote what they consider to be a lost hour to serious news analysis and in-depth, long-form coverage. Y'know because their broadcast licenses say they are supposed to be serving the public interest.

DJariya 08-26-22 02:12 PM

Re: NBC is Considering Cutting an Hour of Primetime
 

Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 14154294)
I guess I always assumed that the content could go to streaming like right after, giving more content to streaming without having to fund a lot separately.

Network TV still heavily relies on the Nielsen rating ad revenue business model. It’s how these shows are paid for unlike premium cable or Subscription video on demand. Otherwise who is going to fund these network shows? After initial airing services like Hulu or Peacock aren’t paying the bills.

TomOpus 08-26-22 02:28 PM

Re: NBC is Considering Cutting an Hour of Primetime
 

Originally Posted by lwhy? (Post 14154255)
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv...me-1235206737/

Fox and the CW already do this. If NBC cuts the 10PM Eastern/9PM Central hour will ABC and CBS follow them? As someone that works for a local tv station, it would generate more revenue for local stations. They would essentially have an hour or 90 minute newscast from 10PM to 1130PM or the networks could give them the hour and start the late night talk shows 30 minutes earlier.

I don't watch the CW but it's nice to see the news an hour earlier. Especially for the weather.

bluesix 08-26-22 03:10 PM

Re: NBC is Considering Cutting an Hour of Primetime
 
I see this as only being a good thing if it means less shitty network TV shows in the world.

It's bound to happen eventually anyway but I'm surprised to see it start already. There is barely anything of quality being made by the networks. The shows they decide to pick up during pilot season are NEVER the best ones. While I hate to see less jobs for productions staff and actors and writers, it could also mean the bar gets raised a little for quality.

Alan Smithee 08-26-22 03:39 PM

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Linear TV ratings have become abysmal over the last 10 to 15 years.
And they brought that on entirely themselves- first with screen clutter, then by increasing commercial time to ridiculous levels. As I said in another thread in over 25 YEARS I haven't seen a single shred of evidence of what good keeping network logos constantly onscreen has done, but that single-handedly made me stop watching. NBC was my favorite network back in the day also, and I was shocked that they ended up being the first of the "big 3" to adopt that practice. NBC was the first network with color and then stereo, but intentionally defacing the picture made the advance to hi-def pointless. I didn't even get an HDTV until after Blu-Ray won the format war. As for commercials, I know that's where the money comes from but there are simply too many now. There used to be just ten minutes of commercials per hour, and the breaks were usually tastefully placed. Now it seems like you get about 7 minutes of show, then 5 minutes of commercials. Meanwhile there's plenty of alternatives out there without any of these annoyances. You'd think SOMEBODY on the inside would know that they're putting viewers off. It seems the only thing they've done is get rid of breaks between shows, which is at least something but not enough.

The only thing I watch broadcast TV for now is news, or anything that demands to be seen LIVE as it's happening. News has its flaws but it's at least somewhat useful, I'd welcome another hour of that and less of what NBC has sadly become.

Count Dooku 08-26-22 04:09 PM

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According to Hulu run times, When NYPD Blue started in 1993, episodes were 48 min and dropped to 44/45 by 1999. When SVU started in 1999, eps were mostly 44, now they are down to 42 minutes.


Throwing Copper 08-26-22 04:30 PM

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That’s funny. Watching my Friends box set, in 1994, they’re about 24 mins per episode.

In later seasons it’s only 20 minutes, and just barely.

Gizmo 08-26-22 05:01 PM

Re: NBC is Considering Cutting an Hour of Primetime
 

Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 14154258)
That would hurt the Law and Orders and the Chicago shows. Since they all air the same day, they would have to move one. That is of course if they continue to air beyond this season.

But I’m guessing if this happens, it wouldn’t happen until 2023-24.

Move the 10pm show to 9pm the next day, order another spinoff.

Solved. And likely.

Gizmo 08-26-22 05:04 PM

Re: NBC is Considering Cutting an Hour of Primetime
 

Originally Posted by Throwing Copper (Post 14154410)
That’s funny. Watching my Friends box set, in 1994, they’re about 24 mins per episode.

In later seasons it’s only 20 minutes, and just barely.

Right. Which makes sense as Broadcast became less profitable.

Reduce the runtime = same money on production of the episode
Increased ads = increased revenue

It makes total sense. Fox changed things for a year or two with longer episodes (Dollhouse, Fringe) where the advertisers paid more money for the ads but less of them...or something like that.

Alan Smithee 08-26-22 06:27 PM

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But nobody is going to want to advertise if nobody is watching. Always wonder who watches infomercials though. We still have one sub channel here that shows those 24/7, there used to be 2 others but they’re gone now.

Gizmo 08-26-22 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan Smithee (Post 14154463)
But nobody is going to want to advertise if nobody is watching. Always wonder who watches infomercials though. We still have one sub channel here that shows those 24/7, there used to be 2 others but they’re gone now.

Plenty of the older folks watch broadcast. The demo is going up fast, but they be watching.

Anyone else just watches the shows on the streaming service and don't even know The Resident airs on Fox and not Hulu.

windom 08-26-22 06:57 PM

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I see that I'll only be watching 3 hours of NBC primetime in the fall, and one of those shows (New Amsterdam) is ending anyway. La Brea is only 14 episodes and Quantum Leap could end up cancelled. Mid-season, I'll be watching The Blacklist, which hopefully ends with the season), and some of the returning sitcoms. I wouldn't mind if all of these went away so it's fine by me if they cut the hours and lose some shows.

I guess we won't see another "This is Us" from NBC. If they ever reboot or revive The Office, it'll probably be on Peacock.

Count Dooku 08-26-22 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Gizmo (Post 14154468)
Plenty of the older folks watch broadcast. The demo is going up fast, but they be watching.
.

My friends' parents have Direct TV and (at least) Hulu and Netflix, and they still watch broadcast Wheel of Fortune every night and reruns on MeTV a lot.

Decker 08-26-22 10:41 PM

Re: NBC is Considering Cutting an Hour of Primetime
 

Originally Posted by windom (Post 14154472)
I see that I'll only be watching 3 hours of NBC primetime in the fall, and one of those shows (New Amsterdam) is ending anyway. La Brea is only 14 episodes and Quantum Leap could end up cancelled. Mid-season, I'll be watching The Blacklist, which hopefully ends with the season), and some of the returning sitcoms. I wouldn't mind if all of these went away so it's fine by me if they cut the hours and lose some shows.

I guess we won't see another "This is Us" from NBC. If they ever reboot or revive The Office, it'll probably be on Peacock.

Not a watcher of the series, but I thought The Blacklist ended two years ago.

JeffTheAlpaca 08-26-22 10:49 PM

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It airs on Friday nights


It would be sad and think of all the great NBC shows that aired at 10pm like ER, Miami Vice, Law & Order, St Elsewhere, Parenthood, etc.

Who needs one more hour of local newscasts when they have the 5pm, 6pm, 7pm and 11pm news?

Alan Smithee 08-27-22 01:03 AM

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It would be nice to have 24-hour news on broadcast TV; Newsy kinda does that but it seems second-rate. Still too many commercials during the news but at least it's live.


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