I'm curious about the odds that we get either a Carol Danvers or Monica Rambeau cameo tonight or both? Tonight is it. We won't see Kamala Khan again until The Marvels next year. I have to believe they will have some kind of segue to it.

I am totally excited for the finale tomorrow. I do hope we get a Captain Marvel and Pulsar cameo.. or something more than that... a clean bridge to The Marvels.

Unless you take a Disney Cruise.

That was a pretty good season finale. That moment at the end that Kamala shared with her father was very sweet. And I liked how the name "Ms. Marvel" came out of that conversation. Some cool moments, but I wish this show had 10 episodes instead of 6. They did try to cram in a lot in the 49 minutes. I did like the new suit.

Looks like most of the special effects budget from the season went into this final episode. They did leave a loose thread open with Kamran and him being a Mutant?

And yes, there was a cameo from Brie Larson. Although I'm not entirely sure what transpired. Did Carol and Kamala trade places? Carol looked stumped when she saw pictures of herself in Kamala's room.

Good finale. Like that her family was all cool with her powers. Damn, so Kamala is a mutant. And the X-Men '97 theme playing.

Really dug this series. The middle took a bit of a deep but overall I think it's one of the stronger Marvel D+ shows.

They really like dropping that animated X-Men theme and I am all for it!

There is speculation that the bangle that Kamala wears is one of the quantum bands. And if the quantum band has the powers of the Quantum Zone it has the power to move between realms. So something must’ve happened that triggered her bangle to go cosmic and perhaps teleport her to a different realm and bring Carol Danvers into this one.

I think it’s kind of interesting that they’re going to take Inhumans and make the Mutants… That’s a real kick flip and it makes me sad that they flubbed up on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. and The Inhumans to have to go that direction. There has to be a better way to backpedal all of that. I really enjoyed the series, the characters, the casting, the locations, and the effects. The one thing that I didn’t like was the actress they got to play the lead DODC lady. She just seemed out of place and I don’t think we’re going to see her again.

I too love the special moment between Kamala and her father on the roof and the origin of her superhero name. That was a cool move. I think this just might be the first of the Disney+ series that I rewatch.

There really isn't anything to backpedal. AOS and Inhumans aren't canon-proper. They exist now as some variant of the main MCU. We are already seeing this happen with the Marvel TV/Netflix shows. Those shows can inform our knowledge of character and mythology, but don't need to be stuck to. The Kingpin and Daredevil we see now in the main MCU are the same actors, but slightly different versions. If they do in fact bring in Daisy Johnson (and it is heavily rumored that they are), it won't be the exact version from AOS. They don't need to stick to... what was it... fish oil pills infecting people and making them Inhuman?

I usually like her in the things I've seen her in, but I agree here. She was overacting and seemed out of place. Giving her that awful haircut didn't help either.

I feel the 5th episode should have been split into 2 episodes. Everything else in the series was fine but that 5th episode had too much story and needed to be expanded.



I believe that the MCU is mixing the powers of the Quantum Bands and the Nega Bands
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Quantum_Bands
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Nega-Bandsiman

I found this last episode to be beautiful in every sense. Kamala's mom gifting her the costume made me tear up. Her dad's conversation at the rooftop in the end. Her brother coming to help. Her friends and former bully coming to her aid. Her best friend doing everything in his power to help even though he was brokenhearted. The whole episode had special moments with almost every single important character in Kamala's life. I'm looking forward to The Marvels and a second season of this show. Iman Vellani has a natural charm and charisma that makes her unique and a natural for the role. Looking forward to the future of this franchise and how it connects to the bigger MCU plans.

Good final episode to an enjoyable season. I'm glad that they kept the scale of the story relatively small in keeping with Kamala being a fledgling hero and very young. New threads for another season were dangled with the mutant genetics conversation, plus Kamran is out there somewhere. I liked the family dynamics through the whole season. The community circling around Kamala to protect her from Damage Control was kind of reminiscent of a scene or two from the Raimi Spider-man movies. I would have liked the Carol Danvers cameo to be a bit longer, but at least it was there.

I liked the main characters, the casting was great (especially Kamala and her parents), the show has a cool visual aesthetic, but it still felt like 8 episodes wedged into six and the plot/pacing of it all felt pretty darn weak to me - I didn’t care for the clandestine stuff at ALL and then in the final scenes they seemed to walk back most of it anyway by saying Kamala might just be a mutant.

And while it was cool seeing a mainstream American show delve into the horror of India’s partition, I have to wonder, did it really have any need to be there? It almost felt shoehorned in from another show entirely to me.

I did not like the whole fight with Damage Control, it seemed very anti-US government in a cartoonish kind of way. You would think Damage Control would just communicate they were trying to help?

In any event I know they need some kind of big action scene at the end for the finale but I would have rather had just more interactions with Kamala’s friends and family- that was the part of the show I enjoyed the most. The action scenes were for the most part awkward and poorly executed throughout the whole series.

And I have no idea what happened at the end- perhaps Kamala got selected to fight in the upcoming Secret War?

The show runner confirmed that Carol and Kamala traded places. I saw some speculation that Kamala shape shifted into her.

https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/ms-...aa5dee56334940

Damage Control, from their first appearance in Spider-Man Homecoming, have been portrayed as trigger happy unreasonable assholes. Same thing happen in No Way Home and now again in Ms Marvel. It also shows how racist the US Government can be, which it isn’t far fetched when we see how Muslims have been targeted as terrorists since 9/11. And of course, in this Ms Marvel finale, it wasn’t the entire Damage Control acting like an asshole, but a rogue field general

Like I said before and others have posted, Kamala and Carol traded places. This happened to the wielder of the Nega Bands, Captain Marvel and Rick Jones

It seems like post-SNAP Damage Control has taken the place of SHIELD in a very cartoonish anti-US government Keystone Cops kind of way. It is one thing if they want to depict cops in general that way, but they’re not, they’re focusing on a federal agency, rogue agent or not.


My point is that the every day people in the show was the best part and the fact they needed to be sidelined with what seemed like a mostly pointless plot after the real villains were defeated last episode just to show what dicks a federal law enforcement agency is (which as you say we knew anyways) seemed like a needless waste of time.

And I have no idea what’s going on with the Carol Danvers switch as I don’t follow Marvel comics close enough to know or care.

That whole showdown was so, so silly. Damage Control agents fire guns that disintegrate walls but just knock people back? They are happy to use deadly force to shoot at the kids but lock them all in the same police van, unrestrained? They fire live ammo at school kids when Kamala is holding up a shield but they stop when she lets it down. Every onlooker spontaneously and simultaneously feels the need to take down the police barricade and form a human shield in front of her. It's all absurd.

Also I had to chuckle at her superpower's ability to travel. She can go anywhere, but she has to walk there. Gotta be pretty tiring.
I did appreciate the Red Light joke though. Kudos for a touch of intentional silliness.

‘Ms. Marvel’ Creator Bisha K. Ali Explains Why Kamala Is a Mutant, Finale Reveals and What Didn’t Make the Show

Yeah, that Mutant reveal was really inelegant and weird and ham-fisted.

I kept thinking to myself, if Kamala can project energy beams and encase herself in them, why can't she fly?

The fact that an ordinary high school kid became an expert at parkour out of nowhere was ridiculous.

I definitely thought she shape shifted at first (which is straight out of the comic) but Carol's reaction definitely showed that they somehow switched places. I'm not sure why people think it's the quantum bands and not the nega bands, though.

This was an... odd episode. So cartoonish, from the bumbling Damage Control guys to the prankish "home alone" setup to them laughing it up until being roughed up, and then even the whole "we're just going to drop this" at the end because really, how else could they get to a status quo where Kamala wasn't being hunted down? Are the sokovia accords over, btw?

Even that scene where the neighborhood rallies around her seemed weird. Usually when a scene like that happens, the crowd does a little more than line up and just let the bad guys through with no resistance. Like the cops lined up, then were asked to move aside and they just let them through? And considering she travels basically at the speed of hop, she should be easily trackable, it's not like it's Spider-man swinging really fast.

I didn't like the mutant reveal if only because they spent a whole series establishing that she's 1/8 djinn or whatever and that her ancestor could use the bangle, and all that setup seems kind of useless if you're just going to say she has the x-gene. I was kinda hoping that either Lockjaw (if they went Inhumans) or a mutant would have cameo'd to help save her, instead of it being a reveal at the end via conversation, but oh well.

I wonder if Kamala's mom apologized to grandma for kind of resenting her for telling "tall tales" about the stars and everything.

Still, despite all that I liked the atmosphere, and it really does feel like the show "got back" to where it was going before that odd detour to Pakistan, with the school cast reunited and everything.

I can’t keep up, whatever happened to the whole superhuman registration act that Civil War revolved around? Is Kamala violating that?

The Marvel Wiki states:

The Accords were likely abolished in Avengers: Endgame, as they had severely hindered the Avengers in preventing the Decimation. This is shown by how the Avengers were able to start their attempts to help the world recover from the damage caused by the decimation with no hindrances from the government.

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Which is what I kinda' figured happened with the concept merging more into what Damage Control is trying to do.

I'd like to think the Damage Control aspect is placing the seeds down for the whole certain humans are against supers/mutants seen in the X-men franchise.

A friend of mind had an interesting idea that some of the people who blipped returned with genetic mutations.

I have to go back to the Falcon and Winter Soldier series to check, but it seems that they mentioned the accords were restructured or something, but that some of these Avengers still had to face consequences for their past actions, like Bucky, for being a Russian/Hydra asset. It's been implied that every superhero that was part of the battle vs Thanos became an Avenger and that during the blip, the Avengers were able work freely without government intervention. The world sees most of them as heroes now, with the exception of Wanda for kidnapping the town in New Jersey and attacking SWORD, and Spider-Man, since no one remembers him and has JJJ advocating for his capture. It feels that Damage Control is trying to go after mutants or new/unknown super powered beings, like SHIELD used to do.


Have we missed the fact that Aisha, Kamala's great grandmother, is from another dimension, like the rest of the Clandestines? I feel that they are pushing the idea that mutants exist in other universes but not in the main MCU one, like it was shown in Doctor Strange MOM with Charles Xavier being part of the Illuminati. It seems more and more than the MCU is heading to Secret Wars, using concepts of both the 1984 and 2015 series, to bring everyone in. Wouldn't be surprised if this how they retcon the timelines with the mutants, Inhumans and FF joining the regular MCU.