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DJariya 04-14-22 02:49 AM

Star Trek: Picard (S2E07) -- "Monsters" -- 4/14/22
 
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MONSTERS —Tallinn ventures inside Picard’s subconscious mind to help wake him from a coma and face both his darkest secrets and deepest fears. Seven and Raffi go in search of Jurati whom they fear has succumbed to the monster inside. Rios struggles to hide the truth of who he really is from Teresa.

Written by Jane Maggs. Directed by Joe Menendez.






dhmac 04-14-22 12:16 PM

Re: Star Trek: Picard (S2E07) -- "Monsters" -- 4/14/22
 
I'm only watching this show so I can then watch the RedLetterMedia review. It really works well that way.

movieguru 04-14-22 01:37 PM

Re: Star Trek: Picard (S2E07) -- "Monsters" -- 4/14/22
 
An improvement upon the last few episodes. "I'm from Chile. I just work in outer space". You could see that line coming a mile away.

milo bloom 04-14-22 01:38 PM

Re: Star Trek: Picard (S2E07) -- "Monsters" -- 4/14/22
 
I'm more or less enjoying this season. The guy playing Rios is so charming, and Allison Pill is such psychotic fun and of course Jeri Ryan is a scene stealer (which we've known since Voyager).

And it may feel hypocritical to say this after we complain about Discovery doing this, but having Picard face his memories and his fears and try to come to grip with them is actually interesting here, but that's because we've got seven seasons and four movies worth of adventures to get to know him.

So when Guinan tried to summon Q, but nobody showed up, and then that guy came in that we thought might be another Q but just turned out to be a Fed?

Spoiler:
Well, my wife and I were almost positive we've seen him before so a quick trip to Memory Alpha surprise surprise, that actor played an officer on the 29th Century ship on Voyager

milo bloom 04-14-22 01:39 PM

Re: Star Trek: Picard (S2E07) -- "Monsters" -- 4/14/22
 

Originally Posted by movieguru (Post 14089820)
An improvement upon the last few episodes. "I'm from Chile. I just work in outer space". You could see that line coming a mile away.

You posted while I was typing.

Yes, we saw it coming a mile away, but I'm more often mad when writers pass up these opportunities than when they indulge in them. So we enjoyed hearing it.

movieguru 04-14-22 02:03 PM

Re: Star Trek: Picard (S2E07) -- "Monsters" -- 4/14/22
 

Originally Posted by milo bloom (Post 14089822)
You posted while I was typing.

Yes, we saw it coming a mile away, but I'm more often mad when writers pass up these opportunities than when they indulge in them. So we enjoyed hearing it.

The writers seem to like having a lot of Easter eggs from Star Trek IV in this season. I was thinking the easiest way to get the TNG crew together for season 3 is to have them aboard a brand new Enterprise F for a ceremony before it is put in commission similar to the sequence in Generations with the Enterprise B.

milo bloom 04-14-22 03:13 PM

Re: Star Trek: Picard (S2E07) -- "Monsters" -- 4/14/22
 

Originally Posted by movieguru (Post 14089836)
The writers seem to like having a lot of Easter eggs from Star Trek IV in this season. I was thinking the easiest way to get the TNG crew together for season 3 is to have them aboard a brand new Enterprise F for a ceremony before it is put in commission similar to the sequence in Generations with the Enterprise B.

Gods, that would be so cheezy but I would probably be crying with joy the whole time anyways.

Josh-da-man 04-14-22 06:17 PM

Re: Star Trek: Picard (S2E07) -- "Monsters" -- 4/14/22
 

Originally Posted by milo bloom (Post 14089821)
I'm more or less enjoying this season. The guy playing Rios is so charming, and Allison Pill is such psychotic fun and of course Jeri Ryan is a scene stealer (which we've known since Voyager).

And it may feel hypocritical to say this after we complain about Discovery doing this, but having Picard face his memories and his fears and try to come to grip with them is actually interesting here, but that's because we've got seven seasons and four movies worth of adventures to get to know him.

So when Guinan tried to summon Q, but nobody showed up, and then that guy came in that we thought might be another Q but just turned out to be a Fed?

Spoiler:
Well, my wife and I were almost positive we've seen him before so a quick trip to Memory Alpha surprise surprise, that actor played an officer on the 29th Century ship on Voyager

Is that spoiler just a coincidence?

Deftones 04-14-22 06:27 PM

Re: Star Trek: Picard (S2E07) -- "Monsters" -- 4/14/22
 
Jay Karnes!

milo bloom 04-14-22 07:13 PM

Re: Star Trek: Picard (S2E07) -- "Monsters" -- 4/14/22
 

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man (Post 14089945)
Is that spoiler just a coincidence?

They reached all the way back to TOS for the Supervisor reference, I don’t believe for a second that this is mere coincidence.

dhmac 04-14-22 09:20 PM

Re: Star Trek: Picard (S2E07) -- "Monsters" -- 4/14/22
 
Given how superficial and shallow the writers are with Jean-Luc Picard's past, I was a bit surprised the young boy version wasn't depicted as bald.

whotony 04-14-22 09:35 PM

Re: Star Trek: Picard (S2E07) -- "Monsters" -- 4/14/22
 
Karnes was great on The Shield.

I expected him to be a Q and he even seemed to channel Q in his tone for a moment.

bunkaroo 04-14-22 09:40 PM

Re: Star Trek: Picard (S2E07) -- "Monsters" -- 4/14/22
 

Originally Posted by dhmac (Post 14089784)
I'm only watching this show so I can then watch the RedLetterMedia review. It really works well that way.

Exactly. This show is awful. And they know exactly what is wrong with it.

whotony 04-14-22 09:56 PM

Re: Star Trek: Picard (S2E07) -- "Monsters" -- 4/14/22
 

Originally Posted by bunkaroo (Post 14090003)
Exactly. This show is awful. And they know exactly what is wrong with it.

Link?

DJariya 04-14-22 09:58 PM

Re: Star Trek: Picard (S2E07) -- "Monsters" -- 4/14/22
 

Originally Posted by whotony (Post 14090009)
Link?

He's talking about that Red Letter Media YouTube channel that hate watches the show.

whotony 04-14-22 09:59 PM

Re: Star Trek: Picard (S2E07) -- "Monsters" -- 4/14/22
 

Originally Posted by DJariya (Post 14090010)
He's talking about that Red Letter Media YouTube channel that hate watches the show.


Oh?
Im wasn’t aware of such a thing.

bunkaroo 04-14-22 11:00 PM

Re: Star Trek: Picard (S2E07) -- "Monsters" -- 4/14/22
 
RLM are much more than hate watchers. They are legit Trek fans and know the franchise very well. And they’re very entertaining in my opinion.

They were actually cautiously optimistic after the first episode of this season. But then it devolved into a convoluted mess as expected.

Dscarpad 04-14-22 11:14 PM

Re: Star Trek: Picard (S2E07) -- "Monsters" -- 4/14/22
 
yes they are long time fans that Trek meant something special in their lives, and they hate, like I do , how it has devolved to utter crap, this episode was the worst episode of Trek in any series, including that god awful Salamander episode of Voyager, and Move along Home in DS9, and Code of Honor in TNG. Picard is such a convoluted mess it really seems like they are just making it up as they go along,

movieguru 04-15-22 01:51 AM

Re: Star Trek: Picard (S2E07) -- "Monsters" -- 4/14/22
 

Originally Posted by dhmac (Post 14089994)
Given how superficial and shallow the writers are with Jean-Luc Picard's past, I was a bit surprised the young boy version wasn't depicted as bald.

In this episode his father father says that Jean Luc gets to live a lot longer than him but he still has his hair, yet in a TNG episode Picard's dad is balding and lives to be a fairly old man. His mom goes from having a British accent in Star Trek Picard to having a French accent in a TNG episode. She also lives to be an old woman, but they seem to imply she died fairly young in Picard.

windom 04-15-22 10:13 AM

Re: Star Trek: Picard (S2E07) -- "Monsters" -- 4/14/22
 
Where is Jean-Luc's brother when he and his mother are doing their story time nonsense? You'd think she'd want to teach both her sons whatever she's trying to do.

Mike86 04-15-22 10:25 AM

Re: Star Trek: Picard (S2E07) -- "Monsters" -- 4/14/22
 
I haven’t watched the last few episodes yet, but this show is absolutely garbage. Total dumpster fire.

It sincerely comes across as something written by people who don’t really like Star Trek or it’s characters, and are aiming this show at an audience who doesn’t care about Star Trek and probably have never watched an episode, but know of characters like Picard.

Having read about things that happen in the last few episodes and watching RLM talk about it, who are far more of fans than anyone involved in the show I’ve seen all I need to. Fuck Alex Kurtzman and modern Star Trek.

Goldberg74 04-15-22 10:53 AM

Re: Star Trek: Picard (S2E07) -- "Monsters" -- 4/14/22
 
“Are you from outer space?”

”No… I’m from Chile, but I work in outer space.”

🤣🤣🤣

dhmac 04-15-22 02:02 PM

Re: Star Trek: Picard (S2E07) -- "Monsters" -- 4/14/22
 

Originally Posted by whotony (Post 14090009)
Link?

RedLetterMedia: https://www.youtube.com/user/RedLetterMedia

bluesix 04-15-22 02:47 PM

Re: Star Trek: Picard (S2E07) -- "Monsters" -- 4/14/22
 

Originally Posted by Dscarpad (Post 14090044)
...it really seems like they are just making it up as they go along,

Uh, yeah...that's pretty much what writers do.

Sorry to be a bitch but I'm a writer and I get so annoyed by 'fans' who do nothing but complain whenever they don't think something isn't up to their impossible to achieve standards.

I've posted this before, but please, all you hate watchers...pick up a pencil/keyboard/dictation software and give it a shot....

Giantrobo 04-15-22 02:54 PM

Re: Star Trek: Picard (S2E07) -- "Monsters" -- 4/14/22
 
-popcorn-


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