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Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
Originally Posted by Giantrobo
(Post 14032704)
In terms of the story, i see no huge differences as it's all European Culture Fantasy stuff to me.. Same ole, same ole...been there a lot and done that. I mean it's all swords and monsters, witches and prophecies, Elves and dwarfves, etc. But I'm more talking about the quality of the sets, costumes, and the acting on The Witcher compared to WoT.
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Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
Originally Posted by Finisher
(Post 14032618)
Yep, was expecting GOT and it barely surpassed Shannara. Feel like book readers oversold this thing, but production really dropped the ball. The first 4-5 episodes are mostly a waste; just introducing the generic unmemorable characters then having them travel back and forth until the last couple episodes. Which was too little too late and unsatisfying.
That said the first season was not really that strong. High hopes for Season 2 which has a much more straightforward arc. |
Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
Nice look at the sets:
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Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
Originally Posted by Draven
(Post 14032287)
Egwene and Nynaeve are extremely powerful channellers and it was only a fluke that they were there.
Originally Posted by Rodney2187
(Post 14034231)
Nice look at the sets
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Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
Originally Posted by Gunde
(Post 14034460)
Part of the problem with the show's visual quality. We get too much of a "nice look at the sets". The lighting is really bad. There's no depth, no contrast, no context. Everything is just evenly lit, perfectly visible, even when the source is supposed to flickering candles. It makes every scene look like a stageplay and not a real world place.
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Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
I think that's it -- the world did not feel "lived in". Kind of like the Star Wars prequels, in a sense. Great looking sets, but they still felt like sets.
Also the revelation that the local Peddler was secretly a servant of "The Dark One" has exactly zero impact. We saw him in one small scene, once, in the first episode. Out of sight, out of mind. Big yawner. |
Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
Originally Posted by Hokeyboy
(Post 14035241)
I think that's it -- the world did not feel "lived in". Kind of like the Star Wars prequels, in a sense. Great looking sets, but they still felt like sets.
When you're making these high fantasy tv series and movies, you really need to make their world a living, vibrant place. The Game of Thrones world felt old and lived-in, like Winterfell and the Red Keep and The Wall felt like they had been standing for centuries, and you could feel the history in them. The clothes they wore felt worn, the armor and weapons felt like it had seen innumerable battles. It's kind of ironic that the fantasy worlds that are newer, cleaner, and well-pressed look cheaper (and probably are) than the grungier, grimier worlds. |
Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
If I could pile on, the stakes also seemed very small. In those last episodes when they were supposedly fighting the final battle, they had this tiny little army (outside their tiny little town with no suburbs) and five magic women. Didn't seem that massive.
The only part of this season that I found genuinely surprising and unique was that flashback to 3000 years ago and the previous Dragon Reborn, where they show the shot of the city with ships flying around. |
Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
Originally Posted by Gunde
(Post 14034460)
Well, then the show failed to make that clear.
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Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
Originally Posted by Draven
(Post 14036292)
I can't remember if there was exact dialogue at other points but we saw Nynaeve deal with Logain when experienced Aes Sedai could not. And Logain said that his power paled compared to hers, which was like the sun.
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Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
In the books, Rand basically deals with the events at the end all by himself. I can see why the showrunners wanted to change that up to include more of their actors. But the book is right there if anyone prefers it that way.
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Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
Originally Posted by Draven
(Post 14036292)
I can't remember if there was exact dialogue at other points but we saw Nynaeve deal with Logain when experienced Aes Sedai could not. And Logain said that his power paled compared to hers, which was like the sun.
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Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
The characters displayed their powers several times during the season, especially Nynaeve.
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Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
Originally Posted by chowderhead
(Post 14036730)
Rand is the dragon reborn but the show runners decided to side line him. Random 3 women and Nynaeve and Egwene defeated thousands of Trollocs while Rand had 2 dream sequences and an awkward “final battle.” We know more about Siuan and her dad than we do about Rand and his dad. They spent almost an entitre episode on a random minor character who killed himself but did nothing to advance the plot. Moraine spent 20 years looking for the dragon reborn but decides to let him peace out and go off to wherever. It is some bad story choices. I am not hopeful for season 2 at all.
That said, apparently just showing the 7 Towers of Malkier was a huge battle so who knows how many changes were dictated by Amazon. I am actually really optimistic about Season 2 as it has a totally different vibe and plotline. It should be very exciting and introduce some incredibly important new characters. It is the book that most reads like a movie script |
Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
Renewed for a 3rd season before season 2 airs.
Have not started this series yet. Way behind on a lot of new series. |
Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
Originally Posted by DJariya
(Post 14136227)
Renewed for a 3rd season before season 2 airs.
Have not started this series yet. Way behind on a lot of new series. I think the consensus in this thread is you could skip it. Nobody was enamored with the final product. Some good concepts and scenes, but largely fell flat. |
Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
Originally Posted by Superman07
(Post 14136436)
Surprised.
I think the consensus in this thread is you could skip it. Nobody was enamored with the final product. Some good concepts and scenes, but largely fell flat. |
Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
Originally Posted by Superman07
(Post 14136436)
Surprised.
I think the consensus in this thread is you could skip it. Nobody was enamored with the final product. Some good concepts and scenes, but largely fell flat. However, if they can get back to the story as in the books it should get quite compelling. The first season was really affected by Covid as well. |
Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
Season 2 is coming September 1st.
https://deadline.com/2023/05/the-whe...235378242/amp/ Prime Video has set September 1 for the Season 2 premiere of fantasy epic series The Wheel of Time. It comes almost two years after the series’ first season scored one of the streamer’s biggest premieres. We’re also getting a first look at the second season in some new images released today. Based on the best-selling Robert Jordan fantasy series The Wheel of Time, a humble farm boy, Rand al’Thor (Josha Stradowski), learns he is The Dragon Reborn—a dangerous figure from history destined to save the world … or break it. Desperate to protect him from the Dark One, an army of powerful sorceresses must reckon with his burgeoning power and encroaching madness. The Wheel of Time turns, and the Last Battle approaches. Though Rand thought he destroyed the Dark One, evil is not gone from the world. In Season Two, threats new and very old seek out the young friends from the Two Rivers, now scattered over the world. The woman who found and guided them is now powerless to help, and so they must find other sources of strength. In each other, or themselves. In the Light … or the Dark. |
Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
Not a huge deal yet it would be cool if eight-episode seasons like this could be once a year and not almost two. Likely reasons for that this time around.
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Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
Guess this means I need to try and watch the first season. The wife is a huge fan of the novels (I've never cracked one), but I heard not a peep about the show after she watched it. Not a good sign. But if I get caught up at least this is something we could watch together.
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Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
Originally Posted by Xiroteus
(Post 14277152)
Not a huge deal yet it would be cool if eight-episode seasons like this could be once a year and not almost two. Likely reasons for that this time around.
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Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
Originally Posted by randian
(Post 14279193)
They say they want 8 seasons, but that won't happen if it takes 16 years to do.
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Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
I think I watched this. I don't remember. I'm not even interested enough to scroll through the thread to see if I posted here.
I bet I watched this. Isn't there like a big gate in a field toward the end? I'm not the epitome of viewership, but if my attitude is anything like a lot of other potential viewers, they're in trouble. |
Re: The Wheel of Time (Amazon) -- premieres 11/19/21
Originally Posted by story
(Post 14279348)
I bet I watched this. Isn't there like a big gate in a field toward the end?
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