Bandoman

Very interesting.

Deftones

Wasn't TOS guy, way before my time, so most of the Guardian stuff flew over my head. As for Yeoh, she will be doing a Section 31 spin-off show, so that is likely why they got her off the show.

Bandoman

My son is watching S2 right now. I made him watch the TOS episodes The Menagerie parts 1 and 2 before he watched the episode where Pike grabs the time crystal. He was glad I did, even though he laughed at the primitive SFX, 60s clothing and cheesy dialog.

Kdogg

Count Dooku

Good to know that on Discovery, a vile despot with the blood of countless beings on her hands will be fondly remembered at the end as a pain-in-the-ass truth-teller.

johnnysd

Yeah but at least we didn't miss out on Burnham crying. WE are 10 episodes on and it feels like the season is not even fully set up yet.

milo bloom

Again, the snow hobo is the most interesting part but they spend the majority of the time screwing around in the mirror universe.

This show has taken such a major dive since last season. I can’t wait for the Pike show to do it right.

Noonan

Two full episodes to handle something they could have done in 10 minutes. I don't recall many show seasons which started out with so much promise, only to take a nosedive off a cliff.

milo bloom

Yeah, this show has squandered all the brownie points they built up in the second season after an uneven first season. It feels bad to criticize this show because of all the trolls complaining about it being too woke and such, which I don't have a problem with. My problem is the stories just aren't that great. Same with Picard, neat set up but ultimately I just didn't care what happened.

Lower Decks is the only new Trek show that got me to truly care about the characters (see my avatar) and it's just fun to watch.

dex14

I started binging this season last week. I’m not a big Trekkie or anything, but yea, these last two episodes have sucked.

The Antipodean

Is it wrong that I kind of enjoyed watching Michael Burnham get tortured for most of an hour?

johnnysd

Not at all. She is the worst character on TV.

Count Dooku

No no no. She's the best. Michael is always the best of us.

Xiroteus

This was an odd choice for a two parter. It's not bad in it's own right just felt like a waste of time when they had other things going on along with it, not even being the main cast (not mirror) in the FUTURE. Maybe half an episode. It kind of feels like HEY CAST! Want to play evil versions of yourself again?

Eric F

All this episode did was make me realize what a better actress Michelle Yeoh is than the rest of the cast.

hdtv00

All this two episodes were is a commercial for the new series with her as the star. I liked how season started at this point bout had it with shit episodes back to back to back....

ben12

She got sent back? But doesn't that risk destroying everything if someone can extract the sphere data from her brain or something? I thought that was the whole point of them traveling to the future.

milo bloom

One can hope the Guardian factored that in and put her somewhere where that won't be an issue.

Noonan

She got sent to a universe where her original universe and Prime had the same split as she does, to keep her stable.

ben12

And that universe doesn't have any AIs that will try to steal her sphere data? This show often wants to have its cake and eat it too.

ben12

This was a new low for Star Trek. I could maybe forgive it if the Empress Hitler character had gone through a believable redemption arc. But it was like she just decided one day to be better, and even then she wasn't really that much better.

Noonan

I have no idea. lol

Not trying to defend the episode (which I thought was terrible). Just add it to the list of plot holes this season has opened up. We still don't know how Book got out of Earth's solar system with a ship that isn't warp capable. Dude should still be somewhere around the asteroid belt.

milo bloom

I think the idea is that they have warp, but less powerful ones that aren't as fuel efficient.

Noonan

As far as we know (since the show hasn't decided to explain anything to us) no dilithium = no warp. Now, we could say that Discovery gave Book some of theirs but why would a small ship even have a warp drive installed 100 years after the burn?

Maybe we could have gotten those answers if they didn't use 1/5 the season to give a secondary character a send-off.

Tom Banjo

What sphere data is she supposed to have? I thought all that was in Discovery’s computer, not inside anyone’s actual head.