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Star Trek: Discovery (S3E10) -- "Terra Firma Part 2" -- 12/17/20




Georgiou uncovers the true depths of the plot against her, leading her to a revelation about how deeply her time on the U.S.S. Discovery truly changed her.



Very interesting.

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Many guessed it was the Guardian of Forever, but this was the first indication that it could send people to other universes and not just other times. Sad to see Georgiou go, she was such an interesting character. I wonder if they'll bring her back somehow. Does Michelle Yeoh have other work that is preventing her from continuing with Discovery?

What isn't clear - to me, at least - is whether it all happened just in Georgiou's mind or whether she actually made changes to to the mirror universe.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E10) -- "Terra Firma Part 2" -- 12/17/20

Wasn't TOS guy, way before my time, so most of the Guardian stuff flew over my head. As for Yeoh, she will be doing a Section 31 spin-off show, so that is likely why they got her off the show.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E10) -- "Terra Firma Part 2" -- 12/17/20

My son is watching S2 right now. I made him watch the TOS episodes The Menagerie parts 1 and 2 before he watched the episode where Pike grabs the time crystal. He was glad I did, even though he laughed at the primitive SFX, 60s clothing and cheesy dialog.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E10) -- "Terra Firma Part 2" -- 12/17/20

Originally Posted by Bandoman View Post
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Sad to see Georgiou go, she was such an interesting character. I wonder if they'll bring her back somehow. Does Michelle Yeoh have other work that is preventing her from continuing with Discovery?

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There is a planned Section 31 spin off with her.

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E10) -- "Terra Firma Part 2" -- 12/17/20

Good to know that on Discovery, a vile despot with the blood of countless beings on her hands will be fondly remembered at the end as a pain-in-the-ass truth-teller.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E10) -- "Terra Firma Part 2" -- 12/17/20

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Good to know that on Discovery, a vile despot with the blood of countless beings on her hands will be fondly remembered at the end as a pain-in-the-ass truth-teller.
Yeah but at least we didn't miss out on Burnham crying. WE are 10 episodes on and it feels like the season is not even fully set up yet.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E10) -- "Terra Firma Part 2" -- 12/17/20

Again, the snow hobo is the most interesting part but they spend the majority of the time screwing around in the mirror universe.

This show has taken such a major dive since last season. I can’t wait for the Pike show to do it right.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E10) -- "Terra Firma Part 2" -- 12/17/20

Two full episodes to handle something they could have done in 10 minutes. I don't recall many show seasons which started out with so much promise, only to take a nosedive off a cliff.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E10) -- "Terra Firma Part 2" -- 12/17/20

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Two full episodes to handle something they could have done in 10 minutes. I don't recall many show seasons which started out with so much promise, only to take a nosedive off a cliff.
Yeah, this show has squandered all the brownie points they built up in the second season after an uneven first season. It feels bad to criticize this show because of all the trolls complaining about it being too woke and such, which I don't have a problem with. My problem is the stories just aren't that great. Same with Picard, neat set up but ultimately I just didn't care what happened.

Lower Decks is the only new Trek show that got me to truly care about the characters (see my avatar) and it's just fun to watch.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E10) -- "Terra Firma Part 2" -- 12/17/20

I started binging this season last week. I’m not a big Trekkie or anything, but yea, these last two episodes have sucked.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E10) -- "Terra Firma Part 2" -- 12/17/20

Is it wrong that I kind of enjoyed watching Michael Burnham get tortured for most of an hour?
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E10) -- "Terra Firma Part 2" -- 12/17/20

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Is it wrong that I kind of enjoyed watching Michael Burnham get tortured for most of an hour?
Not at all. She is the worst character on TV.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E10) -- "Terra Firma Part 2" -- 12/17/20

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Not at all. She is the worst character on TV.
No no no. She's the best. Michael is always the best of us.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E10) -- "Terra Firma Part 2" -- 12/17/20

This was an odd choice for a two parter. It's not bad in it's own right just felt like a waste of time when they had other things going on along with it, not even being the main cast (not mirror) in the FUTURE. Maybe half an episode. It kind of feels like HEY CAST! Want to play evil versions of yourself again?
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E10) -- "Terra Firma Part 2" -- 12/17/20

All this episode did was make me realize what a better actress Michelle Yeoh is than the rest of the cast.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E10) -- "Terra Firma Part 2" -- 12/17/20

All this two episodes were is a commercial for the new series with her as the star. I liked how season started at this point bout had it with shit episodes back to back to back....
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E10) -- "Terra Firma Part 2" -- 12/17/20

She got sent back? But doesn't that risk destroying everything if someone can extract the sphere data from her brain or something? I thought that was the whole point of them traveling to the future.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E10) -- "Terra Firma Part 2" -- 12/17/20

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She got sent back? But doesn't that risk destroying everything if someone can extract the sphere data from her brain or something? I thought that was the whole point of them traveling to the future.
One can hope the Guardian factored that in and put her somewhere where that won't be an issue.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E10) -- "Terra Firma Part 2" -- 12/17/20

She got sent to a universe where her original universe and Prime had the same split as she does, to keep her stable.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E10) -- "Terra Firma Part 2" -- 12/17/20

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She got sent to a universe where her original universe and Prime had the same split as she does, to keep her stable.
And that universe doesn't have any AIs that will try to steal her sphere data? This show often wants to have its cake and eat it too.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E10) -- "Terra Firma Part 2" -- 12/17/20

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Good to know that on Discovery, a vile despot with the blood of countless beings on her hands will be fondly remembered at the end as a pain-in-the-ass truth-teller.
This was a new low for Star Trek. I could maybe forgive it if the Empress Hitler character had gone through a believable redemption arc. But it was like she just decided one day to be better, and even then she wasn't really that much better.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E10) -- "Terra Firma Part 2" -- 12/17/20

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And that universe doesn't have any AIs that will try to steal her sphere data? This show often wants to have its cake and eat it too.
I have no idea. lol

Not trying to defend the episode (which I thought was terrible). Just add it to the list of plot holes this season has opened up. We still don't know how Book got out of Earth's solar system with a ship that isn't warp capable. Dude should still be somewhere around the asteroid belt.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E10) -- "Terra Firma Part 2" -- 12/17/20

I think the idea is that they have warp, but less powerful ones that aren't as fuel efficient.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E10) -- "Terra Firma Part 2" -- 12/17/20

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I think the idea is that they have warp, but less powerful ones that aren't as fuel efficient.
As far as we know (since the show hasn't decided to explain anything to us) no dilithium = no warp. Now, we could say that Discovery gave Book some of theirs but why would a small ship even have a warp drive installed 100 years after the burn?

Maybe we could have gotten those answers if they didn't use 1/5 the season to give a secondary character a send-off.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E10) -- "Terra Firma Part 2" -- 12/17/20

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And that universe doesn't have any AIs that will try to steal her sphere data? This show often wants to have its cake and eat it too.
What sphere data is she supposed to have? I thought all that was in Discovery’s computer, not inside anyone’s actual head.

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