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Old 10-15-20, 01:05 AM
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Star Trek: Discovery (S3E01) -- "That Hope is You" -- 10/15/20





Arriving 930 years in the future, Burnham navigates a galaxy she no longer recognizes while searching for the rest of the U.S.S. Discovery crew.




13 episode 3rd season. Episodes will be available weekly.

So I think the first two seasons and Picard had enough interest to try weekly discussions. So here we go.



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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E01) -- "That Hope is You" -- 10/15/20

I have to admit, that was pretty damn good. I only hated this show because of that tone of s1. But with them explaining Discovery was ran but a mirror universe Captain was good enough excuse for me. S2 we got Pike am I right , nuff said there... This was an interesting start at least to a place no one has gone before...
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E01) -- "That Hope is You" -- 10/15/20

Wow, that first episode was amazing! I love the idea of seeing what the future beyond TNG and DS9 looks like. Looks like there are lots of great twists and turns, and I love the premise. Discovery has become my favorite Trek show.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E01) -- "That Hope is You" -- 10/15/20

I have had a lot of problems with the series so far, but I feel like this is kind of a reboot, and it has me hopeful for this season. Now they can explore their creativity without constantly smashing into canon. And I would not have guessed
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that they would jump forward to a future where the Federation no longer exists.


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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E01) -- "That Hope is You" -- 10/15/20

It kind of bothers me that the Federation no longer exists yet that doesn't have to mean everything is in ruins only that things are smaller after everything that happened. Good first episode to season three. I kind of wish we got the entire season at once yet like that weekly lets me take some time.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E01) -- "That Hope is You" -- 10/15/20

Originally Posted by Xiroteus
It kind of bothers me that the Federation no longer exists yet that doesn't have to mean everything is in ruins only that things are smaller after everything that happened. Good first episode to season three. I kind of wish we got the entire season at once yet like that weekly lets me take some time.
For "bigger" shows I am back to preferring weekly. In the end it is more enjoyable. I thought it was a little uneven but mostly good. Not a fan of casually killing a bunch of people would have preferred the part in the city to be more nuanced. Also 100 years is a little short for the fall of the federation to be ancient, think it should be 400 or 500 but that's an admitted nitpick.

Burnham had a bit more personality which was good. Still not sure what the Federation going away really means as I assume Earth and other members are still around.

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E01) -- "That Hope is You" -- 10/15/20

Originally Posted by johnnysd
Still not sure what the Federation going away really means as I assume Earth and other members are still around.
They've jumped further into the future than we would if we jumped into 24th Century, so they are really free to be creative and explore whatever they want to make up, as long as it makes sense. But the idea is similar to what they touched on in Picard, where the removal of the Romulan Empire left a place in the galaxy where all the previous rules were off, and it was more of a free-for-all. Basically, they've finally managed to get where so many Trek shows have wanted to go, having a show set where the "humanity" of the Federation's ideals is not the governing ideology of the universe.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E01) -- "That Hope is You" -- 10/15/20

Originally Posted by Count Dooku
They've jumped further into the future than we would if we jumped into 24th Century, so they are really free to be creative and explore whatever they want to make up, as long as it makes sense. But the idea is similar to what they touched on in Picard, where the removal of the Romulan Empire left a place in the galaxy where all the previous rules were off, and it was more of a free-for-all. Basically, they've finally managed to get where so many Trek shows have wanted to go, having a show set where the "humanity" of the Federation's ideals is not the governing ideology of the universe.
Solid explanation.
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Originally Posted by johnnysd
For "bigger" shows I am back to preferring weekly. In the end it is more enjoyable. I thought it was a little uneven but mostly good. Not a fan of casually killing a bunch of people would have preferred the part in the city to be more nuanced. Also 100 years is a little short for the fall of the federation to be ancient, think it should be 400 or 500 but that's an admitted nitpick.

Burnham had a bit more personality which was good. Still not sure what the Federation going away really means as I assume Earth and other members are still around.

Still maybe the best looking show on TV
Originally Posted by Count Dooku
They've jumped further into the future than we would if we jumped into 24th Century, so they are really free to be creative and explore whatever they want to make up, as long as it makes sense. But the idea is similar to what they touched on in Picard, where the removal of the Romulan Empire left a place in the galaxy where all the previous rules were off, and it was more of a free-for-all. Basically, they've finally managed to get where so many Trek shows have wanted to go, having a show set where the "humanity" of the Federation's ideals is not the governing ideology of the universe.
I hope they do it well and show that things can still be good even without the Federation. There really is no reason for everything to be in ruins or anything crazy like that.

The weekly works as there is something to wait for. Don't want to burn up all 13 epsiodes within the week.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E01) -- "That Hope is You" -- 10/15/20

Originally Posted by Count Dooku
Basically, they've finally managed to get where so many Trek shows have wanted to go, having a show set where the "humanity" of the Federation's ideals is not the governing ideology of the universe.
It will give the show great creative latitude but a little part of me is disappointed that the idealism of the Federation is not the driving principle. Yes it was flawed. Yes it was hypocritical. Yes it was unrealistic but it offered hope.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E01) -- "That Hope is You" -- 10/15/20

So were they still speaking English in the 3800s or was everything under a universal translator?
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E01) -- "That Hope is You" -- 10/15/20

Originally Posted by Kdogg
It will give the show great creative latitude but a little part of me is disappointed that the idealism of the Federation is not the driving principle. Yes it was flawed. Yes it was hypocritical. Yes it was unrealistic but it offered hope.
The idealism of the Federation - as embodied by the Discovery crew - and its restoration will likely be the driving principle.

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E01) -- "That Hope is You" -- 10/15/20

I started watching Andromeda a few weeks ago, because I'd heard that Discovery was going to follow similar tropes for a while, and sure enough. . . I liked the new guy and am more pumped for the season than I expected. Not a fan of the new Andorians any more than the new Klingons. It was very funny to see one of Morn's race, whatever it is. . . I think middle-Trek had much better alien characters than late-Trek, they haven't made me care about anyone but the humans yet in the current regime.

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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E01) -- "That Hope is You" -- 10/15/20

Renewed for a 4th season: https://deadline.com/2020/10/star-tr...te-1234598765/

They start filming in about 3 weeks. So they are probably looking at a late 2021 premiere.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E01) -- "That Hope is You" -- 10/15/20

Ill have to watch again due to watching it late and being distracted. They still have a good budget so the show looks amazing. Book is cool as fuck and I love Burnham and can't wait for her to get her braids. .

Im gonna miss the Red Angel suit but i feel it may come back one day...
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E01) -- "That Hope is You" -- 10/15/20

I was intrigued by the notion of "The Burn" and what could have caused it. All the dilithium in the universe turned unstable and exploded at once? Yeeesh. That would certainly bring about a new Dark Ages. . .

Is the Q collective the only old enemy powerful enough to fuck around with the laws of physics? Any possible candidates from the other shows? I seem to remember "magic powers" in a few TOS eps. . .


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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E01) -- "That Hope is You" -- 10/15/20

There was a theory for what "The Burn" was posted a while back:

https://trekmovie.com/2020/09/16/sta...n-of-the-burn/

I think this one, that involves "Omega Molecules," was more interesting than all of the dilithium suddenly self-destructing.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E01) -- "That Hope is You" -- 10/15/20

That was very underwhelming for me. The first season started out clunky but improved in the back half. The second season was amazing start to finish. This episode was just didn’t really do anything for me until they found the last Federation guy on that station and he asked her to put up the flag and Michael gave him his commission and that last bit was outstanding. Absolutely everything the Federation stands for in that.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E01) -- "That Hope is You" -- 10/15/20

So how was that underwhelming then lol. I watched the short that aired time ago thats in the future 1000 years for some clues or anything...
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E01) -- "That Hope is You" -- 10/15/20

Was the "Book" character introduced in one of the Short Treks last season? I don't remember. I remember one being about someone finding an abandoned Discovery 1000yrs into the future- I guess we're going to find out why that happened.

I always enjoy this show- the cinematography is amazing. It looks especially good in Dolby Vision.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E01) -- "That Hope is You" -- 10/15/20

Originally Posted by Eric F
Was the "Book" character introduced in one of the Short Treks last season? I don't remember. I remember one being about someone finding an abandoned Discovery 1000yrs into the future- I guess we're going to find out why that happened.
No, not the same character. That character was called "Craft" and played by Aldis Hodge. Book from Disco is played by David Ajala.

Not sure how that Short Trek ("Calypso") will fit into the overall scheme of Discovery, or if it will at all. Unless there's more time travel shenanigans, then that short would probably be taking place after the year 4000.
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Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
No, not the same character. That character was called "Craft" and played by Aldis Hodge. Book from Disco is played by David Ajala.

Not sure how that Short Trek ("Calypso") will fit into the overall scheme of Discovery, or if it will at all. Unless there's more time travel shenanigans, then that short would probably be taking place after the year 4000.
With such a long break in between I should probably go back and refresh my memory, but there is so much other stuff to keep me occupied this days it's hard to find the time.

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Well it's a SHORT, it's only 18 minutes long.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E01) -- "That Hope is You" -- 10/15/20

Originally Posted by hdtv00
Well it's a SHORT, it's only 18 minutes long.
I’m a busy man.

The show does look amazing in Dolby Vision. It’s one of the few DV series I’ve seen where the color grading seems to make a huge difference. Probably looks even better on an OLED than on my 3yr old Vizio. It’s really a shame it hasn’t been released on 4k Blu-Ray.
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Re: Star Trek: Discovery (S3E01) -- "That Hope is You" -- 10/15/20

enjoyed it, although I think the lead is a terrible actress.

Book was cool tho.


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