Red Hood

What I posted came from people working at DC at the time who were present at the meetings since they were asked to pitch ideas for the series. Warner saw all those movie hits but at the same time they saw all the comic book movie failures like Green Lantern, X-Men Last Stand, Fantastic Four 2, etc, and in the executives mind at HBO they were seeing the glass half empty and their train of thought was that comic books movies were bottoming out. Man of Steel hadn't come out yet, Watchmen had mixed reviews. Same with Dark Knight Rises. Iron Man 2 had mixed reviews too. So things were not as clear cut as it became in 2012 when Avengers came out and blew up at the box office.

Another thing that I know first hand is that at that point in time, all these Warner companies worked completely separate, almost as adversaries/competitors, a culture that was brewed when AOL came along in 2000. There wasn't the synergy that Disney has or the one that AT&T is trying to create now with their product. That's why for a company like DC Comics it became hard to get their product on their sister companies like Cartoon Network, TNT, TBS and instead they had to sell their pitches to companies outside Warner like Fox, SYFY, NBC Universal, etc. That's why Gotham ended up at Fox, SYFY got Krypton, CW got Arrow and Flash, CBS got Supergirl and NBC got Powerless. The closest synergy that Warner allowed at the time was having the Big Bang Theory use DC Comics apparel and merchandise and that was done in that way as a cost cutting measure more than synergy.

PhantomStranger

It's very possible this show gets retooled or shut down if reaction to Matt Reeves' movie isn't good, which I think could happen. HBO has become much more willing to give up on projects in development of late.

Eric F

Hopefully they do some animated content geared towards adults. Would love to see another series in the vein of Spawn. A serious DC adult animated show would be great- and I'm not talking a comedy show like Harley Quinn, but something dark and gritty- maybe a Question show with Renee Montoya that centers around conspiracy theories. That would be perfect for this day and age.

Anything is better than another Batman show (or Batman without Batman).

PhantomStranger

Batman is bankable and a proven commodity in Hollywood. Producers will always go with the safe, well-paved path first. I've always thought Sandman would work best as an animated series.

Eric F

Well, The Question is based out of Gotham so I suppose they can work in the Batman stuff somehow.

fujishig

All of their direct to video animated stuff is basically geared towards adults, though there is nothing as subtle as what you suggest. Between that and some of the stuff in Titans I sometimes think their concept of "adult" means basically adding nudity and over the top violence. Have they said what their Green Lantern thing is going to be about?

Eric F

Sci-Fi space opera is what I'm guessing, with some action thrown in.

fujishig

Oh, I mean is it going to be for adults?

Eric F

I guess. Probably in the same way Titans and Doom Patrol is.

Red Hood

They already added nudity on one of the direct to video animated Suicide Squad movies.

Red Hood

Read Gotham Central. That comic book series proved that a Batman without Batman series can be done right and turn out great.

fujishig

Yup, which is why I said someone there thinks making things more adult is adding graphic violence and nudity. I hated that Suicide Squad movie, btw, though others really liked it (for those researching, the scene was actually a lesbian scene between two super villians). And by all accounts that last Justice League Dark movie is just a gore fest.

PhantomStranger

Gritty space cop show aimed at adults. Expansive world building like Game of Thrones.

Eric F

I read it already. Gotham was supposed to be based on Gotham Central as well. Instead we got campy Batman without Batman.

DJariya

https://deadline.com/2020/08/the-bat...ne-1203020965/

Reeves revealed tonight that this series will be a prequel to The Batman and will take place in year one.

Eric F

Uh, so Batman without Batman during "Year One" or just Batman Year One?

I don't get it. How can you have a "Year One" show in Gotham without Batman? I suppose it can center around Bullock and maybe Renee Montoya, and the general GCPD, but didn't we just have a show about that? (before Year One)

Deftones

“https://www.darkhorizons.com/winter-...in-off-series/

Boardwalk Empire” and “The Sopranos” writing alum Terence Winter has exited the untitled “Gotham P.D.” series, a spin-off of Matt Reeves’ upcoming “The Batman” feature, over creative differences. Winter was in line to write and showrun the forthcoming series and his exit comes hot on the heels of the news of him developing a “Dial M For Murder” anthology series starring Alicia Vikander. “The Batman” spin-off was handed a straight-to-series order at HBO Max over five months ago. The story will be set in the world Reeves is creating for the feature film and will build on the film’s examination of the anatomy of corruption in Gotham City. A search for a new showrunner is underway.

Eric F

A show about the mob set in Gotham, sounds boring.

Also, didn't we just have this?

dex14

DJariya

Didn't they just do that with Gotham?

Eric F

Stop it already.

Why So Blu?

What, a black Jim Gordon can't have his own show now? Stop it.

dex14

https://thedirect.com/article/batman...er-bros-horror

Mike86

That sounds much more interesting to me than just a GCPD show. I like the idea of an Arkham show with Jeffrey Wright’s Gordon involved. Hopefully Pattinson shows up here and there too.

TheMovieman

Agreed.