Better Call Saul (S4E07) -- "Something Stupid" -- 9/17/18
09-18-18 | 10:47 AM
#26
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Re: Better Call Saul (S4E07) -- "Something Stupid" -- 9/17/18
^Assuming she watched BB, how is that even possible?
I definitely felt the opening showed them growing apart. They pretty much hit you over the head with it.
I definitely felt the opening showed them growing apart. They pretty much hit you over the head with it.
09-18-18 | 10:53 AM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S4E07) -- "Something Stupid" -- 9/17/18
I really don't think they are growing apart, or their relationship is falling apart.
1) The opening montage was used to show the passing of time - Daily tasks we do every day, how Kim is doing the legal work for the bank expansion, how Jimmy is selling his phones, going to his parole hearings, bla bla bla..
2) They both have a passion for criminal defense - Kim helps those caught in the system, and Jimmy was a public defender. If anything - this "project" is going to bring them closer together
3) Jimmy still wants to be partners with Kim, and they show him looking at an office space with Kim in mind ---- Possibly a criminal defense practice??
4) I don't think that Kim sees him as a "low life" or a "loser" - she is protective of him and knows what a shitty life he has had living under the thumb of his brother, and what he could have been had his brother not stifled his career. So if anything - this motivates and pushes her to find 'creative' solutions.
1) The opening montage was used to show the passing of time - Daily tasks we do every day, how Kim is doing the legal work for the bank expansion, how Jimmy is selling his phones, going to his parole hearings, bla bla bla..
2) They both have a passion for criminal defense - Kim helps those caught in the system, and Jimmy was a public defender. If anything - this "project" is going to bring them closer together
3) Jimmy still wants to be partners with Kim, and they show him looking at an office space with Kim in mind ---- Possibly a criminal defense practice??
4) I don't think that Kim sees him as a "low life" or a "loser" - she is protective of him and knows what a shitty life he has had living under the thumb of his brother, and what he could have been had his brother not stifled his career. So if anything - this motivates and pushes her to find 'creative' solutions.
09-18-18 | 11:02 AM
#28
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Re: Better Call Saul (S4E07) -- "Something Stupid" -- 9/17/18
Jimmy and Kim were a weird couple anyways. Fairly realistic, but they were more together out of circumstance and proximity than anything else. Ultimately, they should've been good friends rather than half-assed lovers.
09-18-18 | 11:12 AM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S4E07) -- "Something Stupid" -- 9/17/18
4) I don't think that Kim sees him as a "low life" or a "loser" - she is protective of him and knows what a shitty life he has had living under the thumb of his brother, and what he could have been had his brother not stifled his career. So if anything - this motivates and pushes her to find 'creative' solutions.
09-18-18 | 11:20 AM
#30
Re: Better Call Saul (S4E07) -- "Something Stupid" -- 9/17/18
Especially with her bolting out of there and saying you don’t know the whole story.
09-18-18 | 11:26 AM
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09-18-18 | 11:47 AM
#32
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Re: Better Call Saul (S4E07) -- "Something Stupid" -- 9/17/18
I really don't think they are growing apart, or their relationship is falling apart.
1) The opening montage was used to show the passing of time - Daily tasks we do every day, how Kim is doing the legal work for the bank expansion, how Jimmy is selling his phones, going to his parole hearings, bla bla bla..
2) They both have a passion for criminal defense - Kim helps those caught in the system, and Jimmy was a public defender. If anything - this "project" is going to bring them closer together
3) Jimmy still wants to be partners with Kim, and they show him looking at an office space with Kim in mind ---- Possibly a criminal defense practice??
4) I don't think that Kim sees him as a "low life" or a "loser" - she is protective of him and knows what a shitty life he has had living under the thumb of his brother, and what he could have been had his brother not stifled his career. So if anything - this motivates and pushes her to find 'creative' solutions.
1) The opening montage was used to show the passing of time - Daily tasks we do every day, how Kim is doing the legal work for the bank expansion, how Jimmy is selling his phones, going to his parole hearings, bla bla bla..
2) They both have a passion for criminal defense - Kim helps those caught in the system, and Jimmy was a public defender. If anything - this "project" is going to bring them closer together
3) Jimmy still wants to be partners with Kim, and they show him looking at an office space with Kim in mind ---- Possibly a criminal defense practice??
4) I don't think that Kim sees him as a "low life" or a "loser" - she is protective of him and knows what a shitty life he has had living under the thumb of his brother, and what he could have been had his brother not stifled his career. So if anything - this motivates and pushes her to find 'creative' solutions.
if it wasn't subtle enough, Kim fading away at the end couldn't have been any less subtle
unrelated, I wonder how this show is currently playing to those who didn't come from seeing BB
the show stood on its own pretty well early on even with brief cameos (ex Tuco, Lydia/Madrigal) but now with a bunch of the BB connections coming into play I have to think those who don't bring the BB background to this are completely lost (ex. meth lab construction, Gus' motivations with Hector, Saul's call to Ed to be extracted)
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09-18-18 | 12:11 PM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S4E07) -- "Something Stupid" -- 9/17/18
unrelated, I wonder how this show is currently playing to those who didn't come from seeing BB
the show stood on its own pretty well early on even with brief cameos (ex Tuco, Lydia/Madrigal) but now with a bunch of the BB connections coming into play I have to think those who don't bring the BB background to this are completely lost (ex. meth lab construction, Gus' motivations with Hector, Saul's call to Ed to be extracted)
the show stood on its own pretty well early on even with brief cameos (ex Tuco, Lydia/Madrigal) but now with a bunch of the BB connections coming into play I have to think those who don't bring the BB background to this are completely lost (ex. meth lab construction, Gus' motivations with Hector, Saul's call to Ed to be extracted)
09-18-18 | 12:17 PM
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09-18-18 | 12:21 PM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S4E07) -- "Something Stupid" -- 9/17/18
09-18-18 | 12:41 PM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S4E07) -- "Something Stupid" -- 9/17/18
I will go on record now as saying Kim Wexler/Rhea Seehorn better get her own series when she is off this show. She really raises the bar acting for this show and is simply amazing in this role. yet another episode that I couldn't believe was over when 60 minutes was up.
For me the only misfire was the song playing during the Germans doing construction, one of the few lulls on the show for me.
For me the only misfire was the song playing during the Germans doing construction, one of the few lulls on the show for me.
09-18-18 | 01:59 PM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S4E07) -- "Something Stupid" -- 9/17/18
He secretly hated Hector, who was a rival who made Gus look bad in front of Don Eladio. He wants him to hurt, to make him suffer. He doesn't want a quick death for Hector. When Hector got the stroke, Gus hired the best neurologist he could. He wanted Hector to be aware of his situation, not a vegetable. That's why when he saw Hector knew what was going on, he relieved the Neurologist of her duties before she could help him walk or talk.
Gus made his sadistic desires very clear with the Coyote story last episode.
Gus made his sadistic desires very clear with the Coyote story last episode.
09-18-18 | 02:04 PM
#40
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Re: Better Call Saul (S4E07) -- "Something Stupid" -- 9/17/18
More directly, Hector murdered Gus' partner Max Arciniega, in front of him.
09-18-18 | 02:38 PM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S4E07) -- "Something Stupid" -- 9/17/18
He secretly hated Hector, who was a rival who made Gus look bad in front of Don Eladio. He wants him to hurt, to make him suffer. He doesn't want a quick death for Hector. When Hector got the stroke, Gus hired the best neurologist he could. He wanted Hector to be aware of his situation, not a vegetable. That's why when he saw Hector knew what was going on, he relieved the Neurologist of her duties before she could help him walk or talk.
One last thing on the opening montage - after watching it a 2nd time, whenever they show Jimmy flipping the Open/Closed sign in the window at the mobile phone store, there was always a holiday sale sign on the window as well (Memorial Day, Independence Day, Labor Day). Completely missed this on the initial viewing.
09-18-18 | 04:13 PM
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09-18-18 | 04:23 PM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S4E07) -- "Something Stupid" -- 9/17/18
Yes. He took out everyone else, but Hector was not there. Jesse was there, but didn't have any of the poisoned drink.
It happened after Hector had his stroke.
It happened after Hector had his stroke.
09-18-18 | 05:11 PM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S4E07) -- "Something Stupid" -- 9/17/18
Yeah, the DA wasn’t wrong about him, but the cop was also an asshole for tring to intimidate Jimmy even though what he was doing was legal and within his rights.
09-18-18 | 05:30 PM
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09-18-18 | 05:57 PM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S4E07) -- "Something Stupid" -- 9/17/18
this series continues to excel, but i must have missed it. how did he come up with Saul Goodman? sad only 3 eps. left....
09-18-18 | 06:02 PM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S4E07) -- "Something Stupid" -- 9/17/18
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09-18-18 | 09:45 PM
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Re: Better Call Saul (S4E07) -- "Something Stupid" -- 9/17/18
I also think he used the name as an alias in one of old Slippin Jimmy scams... the Rolex watch one, maybe?
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