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I thought so as well, but I couldn't remember the details. Here's the Wikipedia episode descriptions regarding her brief time on her season (with my additional recollections in parentheses):

She is truly a loathsome creature.

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Kinda surprised no one has mentioned the host of the reunion. I thought he was great and so much better than The Miz (or whatever his nickname is) and other prior reunion hosts.

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Ziggler is one of Miz's best friends. I'm sure that was a factor in him getting the gig.

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I don’t follow wrestling, but I thought he was a pretty good host.

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He was refreshing. Reunions used to be fun. Somewhere along the way they just became a total waste of time.

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I think the editing was vastly improved as well which made a huge difference. The shows are almost always cut in a disjointed fashion and full of abrupt transitions such that most of the stories/arguments make even less sense than they should.

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Didn't really think anything was gained having a second hour (other than the hilarious tattoo on Paulie...I mean...what the fuck?).

Devin's a punk bitch. Amanda is a truly repulsive person. Tony has matured.

No new knowledge gained.

Any rumors out there in the twitterisphere about what Amanda was talking about at the end?

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Apparently Tony and Jenna hooked up.

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Surprised Amanda didn't blurt it out during Tony's proposal. I expected no less from a repugnant shrew such as her.

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That is a shame if that is true. Wonder what the timeline on that was?

I did a little twitter investigating (which makes me vomit in my mouth a little bit by digging deep into this silly stuff), and it appears that Amanda saves the big reveal for whatever it is for the next season of The Challenge.

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During Dirty 30.

Johnny seems so bored and over it during this reunion. He's a great character for the show, but I think he just doesn't mesh anymore with this crowd. I know it is a good pay day but come on. Move on.

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I can't say I would blame him. Jenna has an ass that won't quit. And does anyone think that Tony's marriage will actually last? The guy has a girl and drinking problem. He showed maturity in this show but I would be surprised if he doesn't get caught with his pants down again.

I don't disagree with you regarding Johnny. He does have some show on NBC that supposedly airs after SNL but I haven't watched it, so he is at least trying to expand his horizons. He is an engaging and funny guy and seems like that show is a good fit for him. Whether it is successful is another question.

CT & Zack seemed bored by it all as well. I see many of the "old" guys continuing it for a payday but not adding to the manufactured drama as much and most likely either dropping out or getting dropped soon.

That kind of drama can be fun in your 20's but by your mid 30's, I can't see putting up with it. But then again, there are all those housewives shows.

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Speaking of CT... I'm really shocked he would air all that family drama for a wedding special. Seems pretty exploitive for him. But I guess once you have a kid, better to take the pay day.

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True that, she is fine as hell. Plus I don't doubt it happened during one of the 20 or 30 times Zach and Jenna were split up over the past few years.
Probably not. I give credit to the guy for genuinely internalizing what a complete douchebag life he was living, but this is still Tony we are talking about. Maybe he gets it right around marriage four or five and kid eight or nine. I hope I'm wrong.

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I watched part one yesterday and part two today. It just reinforced that most of the cast are terrible, terrible human beings. I hope they get Dolph back to host another season of the spinoff if they end up making another season or the next reunion. He did a good job and he could probably break up any fights that happen too.

I wish they would announce when the next season is going to air. I think filming ended this past week. I wonder if they will announce it during the CT special? The Challenge was one of my all time favorite shows, but the lower quality of the past few seasons is turning it into one of my favorite guilty pleasure shows.

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CT's wedding special was underwhelming. But who knows... maybe I missed something since I fast-forwarded through most of it. Part 2 is next week.

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Yikes! Not sure I'm a huge fan of Lili after watching that.

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To each his own, but I couldn't take 60 minutes let alone 60 years.

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I finally got around to watching the reunion episodes. I don't think i've seen Johnny more honest and believable in the context of the show then I have here and in that backstage footage. It seemed like not only did he make sense in clarifying his remarks about Devin's father, but it seems like he genuinely apologized off camera and did so again here despite Devin screaming at him to say sorry again and again. I don't necessarily blame Devin and hard to put myself in his shoes, but it certainly seemed like Johnny was remorseful. It was nice to see Zach (I think?) chime in to about Devin following him around that instigated everything.

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Yeah I think Bananas is a dick and most of the time is unbearable however in this case, I am siding with him. Devin followed him around for hours that night constantly trying to get Johnny to flip out and hopefully get physical so he would be kicked out which is a scumbag move itself. If I am honest I don't even think what he said was that bad because he wasn't putting down the father he was putting down Devin. Now due to the timing of his passing, I also understand why Devin was upset even though the statement really wasn't really that terrible on its own but Johnny apologized multiple times on and off camera and Devin simply wants to flex on camera and keep this "rivalry" going to try and keep his 15 minutes of MTV fame going so he is asked back to another Challenge. He shouldn't have even come back after leaving before the first episode as he wasn't in a head space to deal with the stress of this show. Similar to CT back in the day after his brother's death. He shouldn't have been there as he couldn't deal with any sort of stress especially when coming from someone he hated already and had a history of problems with.

Devin wouldn't say SHIT to Johnny if they just randomly met up in some club off camera. I know Johnny is getting older and is not a tough guy, but I am pretty sure he knocked out a dude or at least messed him up in Prague back in the day on Cutthroat when he was assaulted in a bar which led to the guy's buddy sucker punching Johnny in the eye and cutting him. I have never heard or seen anything involving a physical altercation with Devin. I could be wrong though.

I didn't really have a high opinion of Devin to begin with but it went down even more with his handling of this situation.

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Devon's a big puss and camera hog. He knew he could get in Johnny's face and act tough and not get his ass beat down in both those situations.

Personally I think some people just try to set themselves up early for a possible Rivals team-up in the future because Johnny would be a good teammate and a good chance to help you win it. But...he may take your money at the end if that option is there. ;)

I always thought Jordan did that very same thing right from the beginning. He knew the way he was acting towards Johnny might help him get a possible team-up with him in the future which would enhance his chances. Granted it hasn't happened yet but I always thought that was what Jordan was going for.

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When does the new season start? I thought this show had pretty much become a year round thing now.

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I think it probably won't debut until March. I think it will air after Lindsay Lohan's Beach Club, Made in Staten Island, Ex On The Beach, and Floribama Shore end their current seasons. They have all their prime time slots filled with those shows right now. It'll be good to have a couple months off. I still haven't watched the CT Special. I'll get around to it eventually....

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New season will start February 6 and will be called "War of Worlds"

It looks like it'll be a Vet paired with a Rookie (or "Prospect") but also seems that the rookies far outnumber the Vets so we'll see how that plays out.

I'm going to watch because I always do but I'm not too excited. The most notable returning names on the Vets side are Wes and Nany. Along with that, you have the usual names like Bananas, Leroy, Cara, Zach and CT. On the shittier side of the Vet equation is Hunter, Ashley, Natalie and Paulie. Nothing incredibly appealing other than the return of Wes, who will surely get into it with Bananas at some point.

No idea what to expect from any of these Rookies since I haven't heard of any of them. If they are really into playing the game I'm cool with them being there but I bet most of them will be there to get some camera time. Blah.

Challenge Veterans And Prospects: Meet The War Of The Worlds Cast - MTV