Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (S5E22) -- Season Finale -- "The End" -- 5/18/18
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (S5E22) -- Season Finale -- "The End" -- 5/18/18
Am I the only one that’s utterly confused? So is Fitz not dead? I thought frozen Fitz was the Fitz that joined them in the future so he’s the one that died. Why would there be another Fitz somewhere. The ending felt nice and emotional but more because of the actors not the writing. That twist where they revealed that Coulson was the name on the plaque was confusing as well. So he is still dying? And he’s living his last days with May in Tahiti?
I really just want Coulson to wrap up the movie part of the MCU. I really like his character but it’s terrible that all the avengers still think he’s dead. Maybe with him featuring prominently in Captain Marvel we’ll finally get a wrap up on his relationship with the Avengers. And if you think about it it doesn’t make any sense that they would think he’s still dead, wouldn’t they know he’s been the director of shield?
I really just want Coulson to wrap up the movie part of the MCU. I really like his character but it’s terrible that all the avengers still think he’s dead. Maybe with him featuring prominently in Captain Marvel we’ll finally get a wrap up on his relationship with the Avengers. And if you think about it it doesn’t make any sense that they would think he’s still dead, wouldn’t they know he’s been the director of shield?
#27
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (S5E22) -- Season Finale -- "The End" -- 5/18/18
Am I the only one that’s utterly confused? So is Fitz not dead? I thought frozen Fitz was the Fitz that joined them in the future so he’s the one that died. Why would there be another Fitz somewhere. The ending felt nice and emotional but more because of the actors not the writing. That twist where they revealed that Coulson was the name on the plaque was confusing as well. So he is still dying? And he’s living his last days with May in Tahiti?
I really just want Coulson to wrap up the movie part of the MCU. I really like his character but it’s terrible that all the avengers still think he’s dead. Maybe with him featuring prominently in Captain Marvel we’ll finally get a wrap up on his relationship with the Avengers. And if you think about it it doesn’t make any sense that they would think he’s still dead, wouldn’t they know he’s been the director of shield?
I really just want Coulson to wrap up the movie part of the MCU. I really like his character but it’s terrible that all the avengers still think he’s dead. Maybe with him featuring prominently in Captain Marvel we’ll finally get a wrap up on his relationship with the Avengers. And if you think about it it doesn’t make any sense that they would think he’s still dead, wouldn’t they know he’s been the director of shield?
#28
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (S5E22) -- Season Finale -- "The End" -- 5/18/18
So they find Fitz and unfreeze him (and then Simmons has Deke)?, ok, but then does he need to be re-frozen at some point to maintain the future so they can come back and unfreeze him? Yikes ....
#29
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (S5E22) -- Season Finale -- "The End" -- 5/18/18
#30
Banned
Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (S5E22) -- Season Finale -- "The End" -- 5/18/18
Remember Robin saying, "Something's different"? That's when the timeline changed.
#31
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#32
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (S5E22) -- Season Finale -- "The End" -- 5/18/18
Finally watched this today.
Definitely could have served as a series finale. The 6th season will probably be a reset. But, that heavily depends on what happens to Coulson. But, I think you have to bring back Clark Gregg in some form. He's the anchor of this series.
Daisy and Talbot's fight scene was pretty cool. I also liked that there were a lot of good emotional scenes between the characters. Daisy and Coulson have a very father-daughter type bond.
Well, we'll see what happens in Summer 2019. It's going to be a long wait.
Definitely could have served as a series finale. The 6th season will probably be a reset. But, that heavily depends on what happens to Coulson. But, I think you have to bring back Clark Gregg in some form. He's the anchor of this series.
Daisy and Talbot's fight scene was pretty cool. I also liked that there were a lot of good emotional scenes between the characters. Daisy and Coulson have a very father-daughter type bond.
Well, we'll see what happens in Summer 2019. It's going to be a long wait.
#33
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#34
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (S5E22) -- Season Finale -- "The End" -- 5/18/18
#35
Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (S5E22) -- Season Finale -- "The End" -- 5/18/18
I don't recall them previously establishing that as either a general property of Inhumans or a specific ability of Daisy. Indeed, since Daisy has previously suffered injury from far less severe blunt-force trauma I would argue that they've established quite the opposite.
#36
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#37
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (S5E22) -- Season Finale -- "The End" -- 5/18/18
After the first mention of something happening in New York, I found it very difficult to pay attention because I was expecting people to start turning to dust at any second. I half expected Coulson or May to start to drift away in that final shot. Would have been better off if they had either ignored Infinity War completely, or after Tahiti they see news reports of an alien wheel in the sky over Manhattan. Since Avengers 4 will be out when this returns, they could do the whole story from a different perspective.
Overall, I really don't see the point in continuing this for another half season. The series was a vehicle for Coulson, and they just wrote him off.
Overall, I really don't see the point in continuing this for another half season. The series was a vehicle for Coulson, and they just wrote him off.
#38
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (S5E22) -- Season Finale -- "The End" -- 5/18/18
I don't recall them previously establishing that as either a general property of Inhumans or a specific ability of Daisy. Indeed, since Daisy has previously suffered injury from far less severe blunt-force trauma I would argue that they've established quite the opposite.
#39
Banned
Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (S5E22) -- Season Finale -- "The End" -- 5/18/18
#42
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (S5E22) -- Season Finale -- "The End" -- 5/18/18
Except she injected herself after the fall.
#44
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (S5E22) -- Season Finale -- "The End" -- 5/18/18
Yeah I questioned Daisy surviving the slam as well but I am thinking maybe she was able to use her Quake powers to somehow cushion or absorb some of the blow? Could even be a subconscious thing her body just did as a self preservation measure. Otherwise it doesn't make sense because if she could survive that slam with barely any injury then no normal human should be able to hurt her with a punch or kick or even hitting with a weapon unless it was super-powered. Hell even bullets wouldn't do as much damage as that fall would if she had no powers.
#45
Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (S5E22) -- Season Finale -- "The End" -- 5/18/18
People are really questioning how Daisy survived but don't question how many times May would have been killed by now? At least Daisy has powers beyond looking hot.
#46
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (S5E22) -- Season Finale -- "The End" -- 5/18/18
There has been no precedent for Daisy being able to be dropped at maximum velocity from miles in the air down to solid concrete leaving a hundred foot wide by 20 feet deep crater and be barely hurt.
#47
Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (S5E22) -- Season Finale -- "The End" -- 5/18/18
Agreed on the skills part. But since the point was about what is physiologically possible without powers, you're missing or ignoring the point. And the point again is I laughed off Daisy surviing the same way I laughed off May and others surviving similar impossible to survive scenes. And it's not even just Shield. Many of the non-metas on the CW DC shows are just as impossibly immune to being killed by what in relaity would kill a person many times over.
#48
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (S5E22) -- Season Finale -- "The End" -- 5/18/18
Agreed on the skills part. But since the point was about what is physiologically possible without powers, you're missing or ignoring the point. And the point again is I laughed off Daisy surviing the same way I laughed off May and others surviving similar impossible to survive scenes. And it's not even just Shield. Many of the non-metas on the CW DC shows are just as impossibly immune to being killed by what in relaity would kill a person many times over.
Extra durability and accelerated recovery time is just part of this type of show/movie and you can either suspend disbelief or not. I am able to with May and even Deke being shot and then running around a half hour later. The thing with Daisy was like Superman level of destruction so it was out of the norm. Even that didn't bother me as my head cannon was able to come up with a scenario that explained it within the framework of a superhero show. But it did stand out to me.
#49
Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (S5E22) -- Season Finale -- "The End" -- 5/18/18
Exactly as we did with Daisy given all the times show have done it before. Including with characters that have no business surving even half of what they have depicted. But at this point there doesn't seem to be any point in going further with this.
#50
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (S5E22) -- Season Finale -- "The End" -- 5/18/18
I could not agree more. Absolutely no point in continuing this discussion with you.



