Gotham (S4E15) -- "A Dark Knight: The Sinking Ship The Grand Applause" -- 3/22/18
03-22-18, 09:15 PM
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Gotham (S4E15) -- "A Dark Knight: The Sinking Ship The Grand Applause" -- 3/22/18
THE PENGUIN'S ENIGMA ON AN ALL-NEW "GOTHAM" THURSDAY, MARCH 22, ON FOX
Bullock and Gordon try to track down someone who is key in Sofia's control over Gotham. Meanwhile, Penguin, Lee and Nygma enlist an unlikely ally as they seek revenge, and Selina asks Bruce for a favor to help rid her of her guilt over Ivy in the all-new "A Dark Knight: The Sinking Ship The Grand Applause" episode of GOTHAM airing Thursday, March 22 (8:00-9:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX. (GTH-415) (TV-14 L, V)
Cast: Ben McKenzie as Detective James Gordon, Donal Logue as Harvey Bullock, David Mzouz as Bruce Wayne, Morena Baccarin as Leslie Thompkins, Sean Pertwee as Alfred, Robin Lord Taylor as The Penguin, Erin Richards as Barbara Kean, Camren Bicondova as Selina Kyle/the future Catwoman, Cory Michael Smith as Edward Nygma/the Riddler, Jessica Lucas as Tabitha Galavan, Chris Chalk as Lucius Fox, Drew Powell as Butch Gilzean/Solomon Grundy, Alexander Siddig as Ra's Ah Ghul, Crystal Reed as Sofia Falcone
Guest Cast: Anthony Carrigan as Victor Zsasz, Kyle Vincent Terry as Headhunter, Stu "Large" Riley as Sampson, Christopher Convery as Martin, Nathan Darrow as Mr. Freeze
Bullock and Gordon try to track down someone who is key in Sofia's control over Gotham. Meanwhile, Penguin, Lee and Nygma enlist an unlikely ally as they seek revenge, and Selina asks Bruce for a favor to help rid her of her guilt over Ivy in the all-new "A Dark Knight: The Sinking Ship The Grand Applause" episode of GOTHAM airing Thursday, March 22 (8:00-9:00 PM ET/PT) on FOX. (GTH-415) (TV-14 L, V)
Cast: Ben McKenzie as Detective James Gordon, Donal Logue as Harvey Bullock, David Mzouz as Bruce Wayne, Morena Baccarin as Leslie Thompkins, Sean Pertwee as Alfred, Robin Lord Taylor as The Penguin, Erin Richards as Barbara Kean, Camren Bicondova as Selina Kyle/the future Catwoman, Cory Michael Smith as Edward Nygma/the Riddler, Jessica Lucas as Tabitha Galavan, Chris Chalk as Lucius Fox, Drew Powell as Butch Gilzean/Solomon Grundy, Alexander Siddig as Ra's Ah Ghul, Crystal Reed as Sofia Falcone
Guest Cast: Anthony Carrigan as Victor Zsasz, Kyle Vincent Terry as Headhunter, Stu "Large" Riley as Sampson, Christopher Convery as Martin, Nathan Darrow as Mr. Freeze
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03-23-18, 09:27 AM
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Re: Gotham (S4E15) -- "A Dark Knight: The Sinking Ship The Grand Applause" -- 3/22/18
Why doesn't a bullet to the forehead kill people on this show? I guess everyone is immortal except Fish Mooney?
03-23-18, 09:48 AM
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Re: Gotham (S4E15) -- "A Dark Knight: The Sinking Ship The Grand Applause" -- 3/22/18
03-23-18, 05:16 PM
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Re: Gotham (S4E15) -- "A Dark Knight: The Sinking Ship The Grand Applause" -- 3/22/18
The big problem this show has is no major characters ever die ! It makes deaths meaningless
We know Sofia Falcone will return
Good seeing kick ass Doc though and this episode was better because of minimal Bruce
We know Sofia Falcone will return
Good seeing kick ass Doc though and this episode was better because of minimal Bruce
03-23-18, 09:00 PM
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Re: Gotham (S4E15) -- "A Dark Knight: The Sinking Ship The Grand Applause" -- 3/22/18
Most of the main characters can't die because this is set prior to the Batman timeline... unfortunately, they've already got to the point that most of these villains have hit their prime, yet Gordon seems to be effective enough that the need for Batman seems non-existent. That and the show has painted Gordon mostly in a negative light, completely contrary to the character we've seen multiple times on other shows/movies/cartoons/comics.
The show has honestly reached a point where they should just send Bruce off to become Batman and end the show. It's still mostly enjoyable though, but there is only so much they can do without advancing Bruce further.
If they do kill off a character they have to bring them back, and then it just seems meaningless as others have commented above, because then everyone just seems immortal, or can somehow be completely brought back from the dead without consequence, such as Jerome.
The show has honestly reached a point where they should just send Bruce off to become Batman and end the show. It's still mostly enjoyable though, but there is only so much they can do without advancing Bruce further.
If they do kill off a character they have to bring them back, and then it just seems meaningless as others have commented above, because then everyone just seems immortal, or can somehow be completely brought back from the dead without consequence, such as Jerome.
03-25-18, 03:52 AM
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Re: Gotham (S4E15) -- "A Dark Knight: The Sinking Ship The Grand Applause" -- 3/22/18
Can they recast Bruce to move the timeline forward a few years ?
It's stupid seeing this little boy pretend to be early Batman
It's stupid seeing this little boy pretend to be early Batman
03-25-18, 03:07 PM
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Re: Gotham (S4E15) -- "A Dark Knight: The Sinking Ship The Grand Applause" -- 3/22/18
I also believe Bruce's limitations as an actor have slowed the roll on any development of the Selina-Bruce relationship. We are nearing 80 episodes into the series and I don't get anything from their interactions except as older sister/younger brother chemistry.
03-25-18, 03:27 PM
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Re: Gotham (S4E15) -- "A Dark Knight: The Sinking Ship The Grand Applause" -- 3/22/18
It's been obvious since the first episode that this was going to be about Gordon and the multitude of Gotham villains. It also wouldn't necessarily follow any kind of other Gotham City canon. I never expected anything different. 
03-26-18, 02:53 PM
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Re: Gotham (S4E15) -- "A Dark Knight: The Sinking Ship The Grand Applause" -- 3/22/18
Yeah I feel like they changed their minds a couple seasons ago and upped the Batman stuff to make complaining fans happy. When this started, I never felt like I'd see as much of early Batman even by this current season; and that the show was always going to be about The City, the GCPD, Gordon, and the Villains...never really Batman.
People complain about Gordon being "dark" but I see it as a story arc headed towards the Gordon we know and love. He learns, he grows, and he evolves...
People complain about Gordon being "dark" but I see it as a story arc headed towards the Gordon we know and love. He learns, he grows, and he evolves...
