Go Back  DVD Talk Forum > Entertainment Discussions > TV Talk
Reload this Page >

The Walking Dead (S8E02) -- "The Damned" -- 10/29/17

TV Talk Talk about Shows on TV

The Walking Dead (S8E02) -- "The Damned" -- 10/29/17

Old 11-01-17, 07:27 AM
  #51  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 6,781
Re: The Walking Dead (S8E02) -- "The Damned" -- 10/29/17

Originally Posted by VinVega View Post
If Daryl dies I might be a bit miffed though.
There is no way they kill Darryl, as they will lose a good chunk of the female audience. I think after the Glen death, every major character is safe for the foreseeable future as we are in the cycle of them killing off secondary characters for the next year or two.
mcnabb is offline  
Old 11-01-17, 09:44 AM
  #52  
Senior Member
 
TerryW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 884
Re: The Walking Dead (S8E02) -- "The Damned" -- 10/29/17

Tara should have killed that guy then shot Jesus. What a friggin liability he's become.

So, they seem pretty good at popping walkers in the head from a distance yet with machine guns they hit no one and waste all that ammo.

We better see Gracie turn to a walker or crawler. Come on Nicotero, get back to your FX skills. Baby zombie!
TerryW is offline  
Old 11-01-17, 10:06 AM
  #53  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Pa
Posts: 11,841
Re: The Walking Dead (S8E02) -- "The Damned" -- 10/29/17

Originally Posted by mcnabb View Post
There is no way they kill Darryl, as they will lose a good chunk of the female audience. I think after the Glen death, every major character is safe for the foreseeable future as we are in the cycle of them killing off secondary characters for the next year or two.
Yea, Darryl would have been a nice surprise instead of Glenn but now they won;t risk losing more "mainstream" fans. Interesting enough, both Norman and Andrew L. resigned this past summer for over 500K an episode. Those two are the major $$$ on that cast.
DthRdrX is offline  
Old 11-01-17, 11:11 AM
  #54  
DVD Talk Ruler
 
General Zod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Santa Clarita, CA
Posts: 21,393
Re: The Walking Dead (S8E02) -- "The Damned" -- 10/29/17

Originally Posted by TerryW View Post
Tara should have killed that guy then shot Jesus. What a friggin liability he's become.
It was a really stupid part of the episode. They slink down alleyways shooting every single person they come across and then they get to that guy and oh he has no weapon and he's surrendering so OK let's cut him a break.. oops OK now he has a weapon but he's still OK because now, suddenly, shooting him is "not what we do" although it was what we did a few minutes ago.

OK whatever

Meanwhile Negan sure seems to have an endless about of minions..
General Zod is offline  
Old 11-01-17, 11:37 AM
  #55  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 6,781
Re: The Walking Dead (S8E02) -- "The Damned" -- 10/29/17

Originally Posted by General Zod View Post
It was a really stupid part of the episode. They slink down alleyways shooting every single person they come across and then they get to that guy and oh he has no weapon and he's surrendering so OK let's cut him a break.. oops OK now he has a weapon but he's still OK because now, suddenly, shooting him is "not what we do" although it was what we did a few minutes ago.

OK whatever

..
Jesus kept saying, "We are not here for Revenge...." Then what were they there for???
mcnabb is offline  
Old 11-01-17, 11:43 AM
  #56  
Senior Member
 
Luds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Gatineau, QC
Posts: 909
Re: The Walking Dead (S8E02) -- "The Damned" -- 10/29/17

Every season they ruin a character by making them anti-killing.

Jesus now, last year was Carol, the year before it was Morgan, and before that Tyreese.
Who is it gonna be next season?
Luds is offline  
Old 11-01-17, 12:07 PM
  #57  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Twin Cities, US of A
Posts: 12,782
Re: The Walking Dead (S8E02) -- "The Damned" -- 10/29/17

Originally Posted by TerryW View Post
Tara should have killed that guy then shot Jesus.
And then turned the gun on herself. Addition by subtraction.
Bill Needle is offline  
Old 11-01-17, 12:26 PM
  #58  
Senior Member
 
TerryW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 884
Re: The Walking Dead (S8E02) -- "The Damned" -- 10/29/17

Originally Posted by Luds View Post
Every season they ruin a character by making them anti-killing.

Jesus now, last year was Carol, the year before it was Morgan, and before that Tyreese.
Who is it gonna be next season?
Don't forget the 'priest.'
TerryW is offline  
Old 11-01-17, 01:01 PM
  #59  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
ben12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Where I live?
Posts: 2,773
Re: The Walking Dead (S8E02) -- "The Damned" -- 10/29/17

Jesus wasn't anti-killing in general. He's anti-killing unarmed enemies who are surrendering. Presumably this war will be over one day and they might want to have more people around they can work with. They don't want to necessarily get a reputation for being vicious, merciless killers or they could wind up in the same situation Negan's in right now.
ben12 is offline  
Old 11-01-17, 01:09 PM
  #60  
Senior Member
 
Luds's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Gatineau, QC
Posts: 909
Re: The Walking Dead (S8E02) -- "The Damned" -- 10/29/17

Originally Posted by TerryW View Post
Don't forget the 'priest.'
Touché.

Next year may be Coral. He showed signs of mercy wanting to help someone with food who'll end up being some mass murderer later this season. Damn can of beans!
Luds is offline  
Old 11-01-17, 01:09 PM
  #61  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 6,781
Re: The Walking Dead (S8E02) -- "The Damned" -- 10/29/17

Originally Posted by ben12 View Post
Jesus wasn't anti-killing in general. He's anti-killing unarmed enemies who are surrendering. Presumably this war will be over one day and they might want to have more people around they can work with. They don't want to necessarily get a reputation for being vicious, merciless killers or they could wind up in the same situation Negan's in right now.
I agree with you but after the one guy was faking peeing his pants, Tara has every right to call out Jesus at that point to not trust any of the Saviors.
mcnabb is offline  
Old 11-01-17, 02:19 PM
  #62  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Abob Teff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Not necessarily Formerly known as Solid Snake
Posts: 20,258
Re: The Walking Dead (S8E02) -- "The Damned" -- 10/29/17

Originally Posted by Joe Schmoe View Post
Michonne has been recovering from her fight in the finale ever since, but Rick bounced right back as if nothing happened! 😁
Neither has anything on Carol ... run over by a speeding car? One episode to recover. Shot multiple times? OK by the end of that episode.
Abob Teff is offline  
Old 11-01-17, 02:28 PM
  #63  
Senior Member
 
TerryW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 884
Re: The Walking Dead (S8E02) -- "The Damned" -- 10/29/17

Originally Posted by Abob Teff View Post
Neither has anything on Carol ... run over by a speeding car? One episode to recover. Shot multiple times? OK by the end of that episode.
"'Tis but a scratch."
TerryW is offline  
Old 11-01-17, 02:43 PM
  #64  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
jjcool's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: CT
Posts: 6,684
Re: The Walking Dead (S8E02) -- "The Damned" -- 10/29/17

Originally Posted by movieguru View Post
Never thought much about this before, but do all the people on this show hate wearing any clothing that has much color to it? It seems all the characters only were hunter green, black, white, and gray. No blue, yellow, red, etc.

You would think clothes would get somewhat hard to find unless you raid a clothing store (which would have more colorful clothes). So one couldn.t be very choosy with the colors of what they wear. Even all the zombies that you see walking around all were the muted colors. It's like they are in a world where only 14th century colors for clothes are available. I guess they are doing it for visual effect, but it seems unrealistic even for a show with zombies.
I have noticed this over the years as well. I guess I sort of got over the complaint by thinking that people in this situation would not want to wear bright colors. Those would stand out, and make them possibly more visible to walkers or other groups. Also, what were bright colored clothes would soon be dingy from dirt/sweat and lack of washing before too long.
jjcool is offline  
Old 11-01-17, 03:21 PM
  #65  
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 106
Re: The Walking Dead (S8E02) -- "The Damned" -- 10/29/17

Originally Posted by JZ1276 View Post
Before Rick & co. attacked, they showed how some time has passed between Rick getting shot & the war starting
It couldn't have been much unless we think Negan was okay with the way things were left between the groups.
smorbie is offline  
Old 11-01-17, 03:29 PM
  #66  
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 106
Re: The Walking Dead (S8E02) -- "The Damned" -- 10/29/17

Originally Posted by Luds View Post
Touché.

Next year may be Coral. He showed signs of mercy wanting to help someone with food who'll end up being some mass murderer later this season. Damn can of beans!


No, he quoted the Quron. Political correctness, which this show bleeds, dictates he has to be one of the good guys.

Sorry if that's offensive. I don't mean it to be. It's not a comment about people or their religion; it's a comment about television.
smorbie is offline  
Old 11-01-17, 04:27 PM
  #67  
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Earth ....
Posts: 4,696
Re: The Walking Dead (S8E02) -- "The Damned" -- 10/29/17

Originally Posted by TerryW View Post
Don't forget the 'priest.'
Rick raising pigs at the prison before that. Herschel on the farm and his zombie barn. Dale at the farm before that.
chowderhead is offline  
Old 11-01-17, 04:36 PM
  #68  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Pa
Posts: 11,841
Re: The Walking Dead (S8E02) -- "The Damned" -- 10/29/17

Look at this regarding the rabbit most of us didn't even think about .... AMC
"We're gonna turn out two toys for kids, this year," Sanders said. "The Gremblygunk and the bunny, so when you go to store and you want to buy something from The Walking Dead, based on some people we know who have tried to buy their family's children things, that it's not gonna be a monster or a bloody thing or something you beat somebody with. It's gonna be a toy."
DthRdrX is offline  
Old 11-01-17, 05:57 PM
  #69  
DVD Talk Ruler
 
General Zod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Santa Clarita, CA
Posts: 21,393
Re: The Walking Dead (S8E02) -- "The Damned" -- 10/29/17

I figured an action figure Negan with a Lucile bashing button would make a great holiday gift for the kiddies.. Certainly worthy of an ornament on the tree at least.
General Zod is offline  
Old 11-01-17, 06:55 PM
  #70  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Pa
Posts: 11,841
Re: The Walking Dead (S8E02) -- "The Damned" -- 10/29/17

You may have something there.
DthRdrX is offline  
Old 11-01-17, 08:40 PM
  #71  
DVD Talk Hero
 
Josh-da-man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: The Bible Belt
Posts: 30,984
Re: The Walking Dead (S8E02) -- "The Damned" -- 10/29/17

Originally Posted by Luds View Post
Every season they ruin a character by making them anti-killing.

Jesus now, last year was Carol, the year before it was Morgan, and before that Tyreese.
Who is it gonna be next season?
Negan.
Josh-da-man is online now  
Old 11-01-17, 11:11 PM
  #72  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Abob Teff's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Not necessarily Formerly known as Solid Snake
Posts: 20,258
Re: The Walking Dead (S8E02) -- "The Damned" -- 10/29/17

I hear they are also coming out with a line of canned pudding.
Abob Teff is offline  
Old 11-02-17, 06:13 AM
  #73  
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 106
Re: The Walking Dead (S8E02) -- "The Damned" -- 10/29/17

Originally Posted by General Zod View Post
It was a really stupid part of the episode. They slink down alleyways shooting every single person they come across and then they get to that guy and oh he has no weapon and he's surrendering so OK let's cut him a break.. oops OK now he has a weapon but he's still OK because now, suddenly, shooting him is "not what we do" although it was what we did a few minutes ago.

OK whatever

Meanwhile Negan sure seems to have an endless about of minions..
They had that guy and the girl who plays Tara on Talking Dead. He, himself, seemed a little confused about why he had to be so suddenly against killing someone. It seemed quite contrived.

I totally understand his not wanting to shoot the man when he claimed to be unarmed and a prisoner of the Saviors. I do get that dilemma. But when he pulls a weapon and is holding one of your guys hostage, the question has been answered in my book.

I said it before, if he didn't want to kill people, Paul shouldn't have gone on the raid. He could have stayed back to guard Alexandria, freeing Coral up to go with them. Carl is useful.
smorbie is offline  
Old 11-02-17, 08:42 AM
  #74  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Hamilton, Ontario
Posts: 12,308
Re: The Walking Dead (S8E02) -- "The Damned" -- 10/29/17

It comes down to the writers not having enough skill and imagination to create some new internal or external conflicts with the character. So they'll just re-use the same old conflicts.
As already stated, it seems like every season a character suddenly wants to be a pacifist - and then comes out of it because they realize it's about survival, self-defense and the bigger picture. And there's always a character that takes a stand on when it's right to kill and when it isn't - even though they've contradicted themselves plenty of times before that.

The writers are trying to elevate the show by being more than just an action-packed gore-fest with the use of these social/moral commentaries, but are just failing miserably at it - resulting in a show that doesn't satisfy on any level.
Coral is offline  
Old 11-02-17, 12:08 PM
  #75  
Moderator
 
dex14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 27,778
Re: The Walking Dead (S8E02) -- "The Damned" -- 10/29/17

AMC Networks CEO: “The Walking Dead” Could Keep Creeping For Decades
http://deadline.com/2017/11/amc-netw...es-1202200220/

Come the fuck on...
dex14 is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Archive Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.