DaveyJoe

Giantrobo

Exactly. I assume they can go down to the bottom and still live. finding their way back to shore.

Why So Blu?

OldBoy

anyone?

TGM

yes.

chowderhead

if Howland didn't live past the Tower of Joy, then Jojen and Meera are someone else's children. Also in Season 3 Jojen tells Bran that when he told his father about Ned (being killed), his father cried.
They have not been in contact with him since so it is unlikely he died off screen.

GoldenJCJ

I'm sure I'm missing something but didn't The Mountain die and become reanimated by Cersie's mad scientist? Why would she be so shocked by a living dead soldier when her very own bodyguard is a living dead soldier?

Why So Blu?

I don't think she really knows what The Mountain looks like outside of his eyes -- also it's Qyburn's pet, so why would she care?


The Mountain has Rosemary 's Baby baby's eyes,

/creepy

Josh-da-man

It hasn't been revealed in the series whether he's alive or dead, but in the books he is alive, as Robb was in communication with him about retaking Moat Cailin from the Ironborn invaders.

chowderhead

umm the Shame Septa scene? She knows.
Tyrion's plan to show Cersei a wright was so lame and led to the Night King obtaining an ice dragon in order to get past the wall. I wonder if the NK is a warg like Bran and see the past/present to plan his moves.

Dr. DVD

Lots of cool speculation on this thread, and a lot of it does make sense. I am in the camp of those who think

OldBoy

ty.

kefrank

At the risk of stating the obvious, one is totally under her control and was "re-animated" (or at least revived in some way) by her trusted Hand, while the other is completely uncontrollable and wants to kill her and every other human in Westeros.

To use an analogy, having a pet dog doesn't preclude you from being shocked by and fearful of a rabid, wild wolf running straight at you.

GoldenJCJ

This is true but you also don't need to go out into the wild, capture a wild wolf, and bring it back to convince me they exist. If I've got my pet dog right next to me, it's not much of a stretch to imagine that wild dogs exist as well.

McHawkson

I said I think. Not official predict or call it. I haven't actually sit down and analysis the whole story yet.

Brack

That reminded me of TUS ending, though was a little disappointed Bran didn't get up from his chair and walk at the end of that scene.

Supermallet

Didn't the Night King touch Bran through one of Bran's visions, allowing his horde to break through the magic protecting the tree they were under? It seems clear the Night King isn't operating on just one plane of consciousness.

That being said, I'm not really a fan of the villain with seemingly endless evil powers. It's boring.

Big difference between reviving one man who was near death in a Victor Frankenstein fashion than to think there are thousands or hundreds of thousands of "naturally" living dead creatures in the far north of the world.

Think of it more like someone was able to successfully genetically cross-breed crocodiles and llamas. You might see one at a crocollama farm but if someone told you wild crocollamas exist in a remote part of the world that basically no one every really goes to, you'd probably think they were full of shit.

creekdipper

It can become a problem.

creekdipper

Then we've confirmed that Jon, Bronn, and Jaime are good swimmers.

creekdipper

As in...HBO spinoff sequel???

Here's an interesting read for gripers following the season finale: https://www.wired.com/story/game-of-...n-7-episode-7/

Favorite line of dialogue from finale:

rw2516

I would think the dead army could just march across the sea floor to any island or continent. They would have to be weighted somehow to keep them down.
The ones who attached the chains to the dragon could just climb back up the chains or get pulled up with dragon.

csant

Correct.

The Infidel

Timber

There are 2 Aegon Targaryen's? Or is Jon a year and half older than he thinks he is?

Edit: This thing is all messed up. Rickon was not 4 when his parents died.

Edit 2: Viserys died a year before Ned and Catelyn? I guess that could be dismissed by simply having the Essos stuff happening in a different time period than the Weteros stuff.

Decker

Yup. Rheygar thought his child would be The Prince That Was Promised. He named his first son Aegon after the Conqueror. When it became clear that he would not be that legendary prince, he apparently named his second son that name as well.