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Old 04-11-17 | 04:44 PM
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Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (S4E17) -- "Identity and Change" -- 4/11/17





THERE'S NO WAY OUT FOR DAISY AND SIMMONS, ON ABC'S 'MARVEL'S AGENTS OF S.H.I.E.L.D.'

"Identity and Change" - As Daisy and Simmons struggle to discover an escape route to the real world, the identity of the Inhuman leader of the Resistance is revealed, on "Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.," TUESDAY, APRIL 11 (10:00-11:00 p.m. EDT), on The ABC Television Network.

"Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." stars Clark Gregg as Agent Phil Coulson, Ming-Na Wen as Agent Melinda May, Chloe Bennet as Daisy Johnson, Iain De Caestecker as Agent Leo Fitz, Elizabeth Henstridge as Agent Jemma Simmons, Henry Simmons as Agent Alphonso "Mack" MacKenzie and John Hannah as Holden Radcliffe .

Guest starring are Brett Dalton as Grant Ward, Jason O'Mara as Jeffrey Mace, Frances Gregg as Amy, Jordan Rivera as Hope, Randall J. Bacon as lead Hydra agent, Brandon Walter as person in line, David Landry as Hydra special agent, David Weiss as serious man and Patrick Cavanaugh as Burrows.

"Identity and Change" was written by George Kitson and directed by Garry A. Brown.

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I'm glad Person in Line and Serious Man are finally getting some screen time.
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I wonder what their superpowers are going to be.
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Great episode.

This Agents of Hydra/Alternate World arc has been pretty fun.

A little weird having Ward back as a good guy, but I've enjoyed having Dalton back on the show.

Alternate Fitz is a pretty hardcore villain. That execution was pretty brutal. I do like having Aida as Madam Hydra in this world.
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I thought it was great that Radcliffe, in the framework, was staying on Fantasy Island. Needed Herve in the bell tower warning of incoming planes.
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Was there a line about "making Hydra Great again" (or something like that)? Their writers have been watching too much Supergirl.

Alternate Fitz and Mei are living out their most inner desires. Well, at least I guess that's what they're going for...
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Re: Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (S4E17) -- "Identity and Change" -- 4/11/17

I think it was " Make the Nation Great Again" which was an obvious shot at Trump.

What I don't get is why are Fitz and May hardcore Hydra agents? As far as I know Aida didn't alter their personalities, just the outcomes of their regrets. So they regret being good guys?

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I think it was " Make the Nation Great Again" which was an obvious shot at Trump.

What I don't get is why are Fitz and May hardcore Hydra agents? As far as I know Aida didn't alter their personalities, just the outcomes of their regrets. So they regret being good guys?
I think the point would be that the moments they regret were also the moments that led them to become heroes, -that without them, they'd end up going a darker path.
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I’m catching up on Netflix and have been enjoying this “Mirror Universe”take.

They really shouldn’t have said that they still have their other side personalities or whatever.
Fitz and Mae being Agents of Hydra and so deeply doesn’t make sense if they are still who they were deep inside.

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