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Jay G. 03-27-26 08:22 AM

Re: Fox is open to a Firefly reboot.
 

Originally Posted by TGM (Post 14722496)
so worst fear confirmed, it's a prequel.

Technically, a midquel. It takes place between two previous installments, not before all of them.

Jay G. 03-27-26 08:26 AM

Re: Fox is open to a Firefly reboot.
 

Originally Posted by MisterMike (Post 14722484)
Perhaps he’s unapologetic because he really has no reason to apologize?

Yeah, you're just shifting your arguments around without any logistical consistency, all to justify Joss Whedon going back to work, despite nobody wanting to work with him, and no real indication Joss even wants to be involved in this.

You're basically repeating The Narcissist's Prayer:

That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.

Except instead of doing it for yourself, you're simping for a rich white man who doesn't know you exist.

MisterMike 03-27-26 10:54 AM

Re: Fox is open to a Firefly reboot.
 

Originally Posted by Jay G. (Post 14722528)
Yeah, you're just shifting your arguments around without any logistical consistency, all to justify Joss Whedon going back to work, despite nobody wanting to work with him, and no real indication Joss even wants to be involved in this.

You're basically repeating The Narcissist's Prayer:

That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.

Except instead of doing it for yourself, you're simping for a rich white man who doesn't know you exist.

I see. Thanks for the summary, LOL. Whatever. Hes not involved and thats too bad as its his baby & creativity that gave us the original awesome show. Hes been cancelled. Oh well, maybe him and Rachel Zegler can hook up and make a new show? :lol:

Runaway 03-27-26 12:41 PM

Re: Fox is open to a Firefly reboot.
 

Originally Posted by MisterMike (Post 14722484)
Perhaps he’s unapologetic because he really has no reason to apologize? None of us were there, of course, so without real evidence it’s just claims.

So why not just "believe" the claims and if at one point the claims made by Ray Fisher, Charisma Carpenter, Gal Gadot, Amber Benson and the Warner Bros. investigation turn out to be a bunch of lies, you can be outraged for the unfair treatment of Joss Whedon. There is always the possibliy that a "victim" is lying, but it's just wrong to assume they are.
"I wasn't there" is only an excuse for not knowing, not for not believing.

Jay G. 03-27-26 01:55 PM

Re: Fox is open to a Firefly reboot.
 

Originally Posted by Runaway (Post 14722660)
So why not just "believe" the claims....

Because he doesn't want to. It's clear he started with the conclusion that Joss shouldn't have been cancelled, and all his arguments have since been a ball of contradictory just justifications for the conclusion he started with.

First, he claimed there was only one accusation from one person. Then it was, sure, there were a lot of accusations and corroboration, but the movement had a dumb name, and people are being "oversensitive" if they didn't like his actions, because he did nothing illegal/criminal, so it's fine. Then it was okay, he did bad things, but nothing worth "eliminating" him for. Then, ok, he wasn't eliminated, but hasn't he been punished enough? Oh, and also, he has nothing to apologize for because he did nothing wrong.

Alongside this he also doubled-down on the obvious double-standard in gender to say that, no, actually it's totally fine that women have lost their careers for far less.

You're not arguing against a rational person. You're arguing against someone who likes to mock movements highlighting sexual discrimination and abuse in an industry. They don't care about people, only what they want, and since they personally want Joss Whedon back, then Joss should be able to come back, and he'll twist himself into knots to justify that position.

davidh777 03-27-26 08:14 PM

Re: Fox is open to a Firefly reboot.
 
Yeah, I was trying to figure out the argument of the Whedon stories being fake but the Sean Young stories being believable.

Nesbit 03-27-26 10:08 PM

Re: Fox is open to a Firefly reboot.
 
I mean at first he says it’s just an incident and when people point out it was a lot he said he had heard the reports. That should tell you about all you need to know.

MisterMike 03-28-26 03:40 AM

Re: Fox is open to a Firefly reboot.
 

Originally Posted by Jay G. (Post 14722706)
Because he doesn't want to. It's clear he started with the conclusion that Joss shouldn't have been cancelled, and all his arguments have since been a ball of contradictory just justifications for the conclusion he started with.

First, he claimed there was only one accusation from one person. Then it was, sure, there were a lot of accusations and corroboration, but the movement had a dumb name, and people are being "oversensitive" if they didn't like his actions, because he did nothing illegal/criminal, so it's fine. Then it was okay, he did bad things, but nothing worth "eliminating" him for. Then, ok, he wasn't eliminated, but hasn't he been punished enough? Oh, and also, he has nothing to apologize for because he did nothing wrong.

Alongside this he also doubled-down on the obvious double-standard in gender to say that, no, actually it's totally fine that women have lost their careers for far less.

You're not arguing against a rational person. You're arguing against someone who likes to mock movements highlighting sexual discrimination and abuse in an industry. They don't care about people, only what they want, and since they personally want Joss Whedon back, then Joss should be able to come back, and he'll twist himself into knots to justify that position.

Double-bubble, bubble, rubble. Ease down a bit. Thankfully for you, Joss won’t be involved in this, it seems. Because only women have had career issues over things like this. All right. Time to drop this. You win.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand: I see no reason to try and rekindle the magic they had with the original show. Just doesn’t seem like it can work. If they do, best of luck.

Runaway 03-28-26 03:57 AM

Re: Fox is open to a Firefly reboot.
 
To me it sound like justification for oneself. If person Whedon hasn't done anything wrong or the wrong thing wasn't that terrible, I don't have to feel guilty about myself for wanting more Whedon content. Whedon rumors started after Age of Ultron and Disney parting ways with the man who made their most succesful movies hints enough.

Cellar Door 04-03-26 11:25 PM

Re: Fox is open to a Firefly reboot.
 
Here's a recent Firefly reunion panel (also posted as an episode of Fillion and Tudyk's podcast "Once We Were Spacemen"), in which the cast discusses the possible animated series. Fillion seems to be the driving force, and he says he isn't interested in post-Serenity stories, so the show would likely be set between the series and the movie. Everyone sounded like they would be on board to voice their characters. Adam Baldwin was not present, but I imagine he'd be in, too.


MisterMike 04-05-26 04:57 AM

Re: Fox is open to a Firefly reboot.
 

Originally Posted by Cellar Door (Post 14725701)
Here's a recent Firefly reunion panel (also posted as an episode of Fillion and Tudyk's podcast "Once We Were Spacemen"), in which the cast discusses the possible animated series. Fillion seems to be the driving force, and he says he isn't interested in post-Serenity stories, so the show would likely be set between the series and the movie. Everyone sounded like they would be on board to voice their characters. Adam Baldwin was not present, but I imagine he'd be in, too.

https://youtu.be/ou27uZqQJaQ

Great to see the cast together. Still not sold that this will work but I suppose it’s mostly harmless to try it.

Jay G. 04-06-26 08:43 AM

Re: Fox is open to a Firefly reboot.
 

Originally Posted by Cellar Door (Post 14725701)
Here's a recent Firefly reunion panel (also posted as an episode of Fillion and Tudyk's podcast "Once We Were Spacemen"), in which the cast discusses the possible animated series. Fillion seems to be the driving force, and he says he isn't interested in post-Serenity stories, so the show would likely be set between the series and the movie. Everyone sounded like they would be on board to voice their characters. Adam Baldwin was not present, but I imagine he'd be in, too.

That panel was shot back on March 5, the day the announcement was made. And yes, Adam Baldwin is involved, he did one of the teaser Instagram videos before the announcement.

Fillion did later confirm Shepard Book will also be included, and he'll need to be recast since Ron Glass is no longer with us:

https://screenrant.com/firefly-anima...ecast-confirm/

We’re bringing back Shepherd Book for certain. Ron Glass, unfortunately, is not available. Ron once joked that he didn’t get a part when they were looking for a Ron Glass-type, and here we are again. We’re looking for a Ron Glass-type, and it’s not going to be Ron Glass.

Abob Teff 04-07-26 08:36 PM

Re: Fox is open to a Firefly reboot.
 
Scheduling conflict?

Cellar Door 04-07-26 08:46 PM

Re: Fox is open to a Firefly reboot.
 

Originally Posted by Abob Teff (Post 14727006)
Scheduling conflict?

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