Timeless (S1E14) -- "The Lost Generation" -- 2/6/17
 

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Re: Timeless (S1E14) -- "The Lost Generation" -- 2/6/17
 

This series has turned out to be a pleasant surprise. Looking forward to how these last three eps. play out. Sure hope this gets renewed.

Re: Timeless (S1E14) -- "The Lost Generation" -- 2/6/17
 

I hope this gets renewed. I was surprised by

Re: Timeless (S1E14) -- "The Lost Generation" -- 2/6/17
 

I agree.

Things certainly advanced this episode, but definitely felt like filler.

I wonder what information Flynn got out of the French automaker.

I wish Lucy had of confronted him with what happen to Wyatt after his side mission went askew. At least Wyatt had some probing thoughts on the meaning of life and how events led to his current situation.

What's interesting, yet frustrating, is that Lucy was just given her diary. Yet the copy Flynn has is old and worn. Reminds me a bit of River Song's diary come to think of it.

I seriously hope this gets renewed since I have a feeling it's going to end on a ,assign cliffhanger. Isn't Grimm ending? Maybe they'd at least give it a Friday slot, although I think it would be better served on Sundays or an earlier 8pm slot.

Re: Timeless (S1E14) -- "The Lost Generation" -- 2/6/17
 

Decent episode. I have faith that this will get renewed.

If Grimm can last six seasons airing on Friday nights, this show can earn a second season.

Re: Timeless (S1E14) -- "The Lost Generation" -- 2/6/17
 

agreed, I usually don't stick with the network procedural shows these days (other than this is us), but this has been a lot of fun. Great to look at, fun brain teaser and a history lesson in every ep.

Hope it gets another season.

Re: Timeless (S1E14) -- "The Lost Generation" -- 2/6/17
 

I said, when I stopped watching this early on, it won't get renewed. I'm sticking to that prediction.

Re: Timeless (S1E14) -- "The Lost Generation" -- 2/6/17
 

I wasn't surprised at all that Wyatt's replacement died on the mission. It was just a one-off episode to allow for that setup where they are now openly defying Rittenhouse with Wyatt as part of the rogue group.

While I would love for this to get renewed (Agree about Grimm), they can only make this going rogue plot last so long now that they are going there. Would have to come up with something completely new before long.

This is the firs time I didn't really like the guest stars playing the famous characters. None of them really stood out like Houdini and others have in other episodes.

Re: Timeless (S1E14) -- "The Lost Generation" -- 2/6/17
 

Problem is the ratings have dropped so much in the last few months. It's now getting barely good cable ratings. Grimm is owned by NBC and that's why I assume they hung on to it for so long. This show is owned by Sony. NBC doesn't make make the same kind of money like Grimm. And potential future revenue all goes to Sony.

Timeless would have been better as a 8pm show. However, NBC was so set on using The Voice as a lead-in for it. Now it's getting even worse ratings with the awful Arnold celebrity Apprentice as it's lead-in.

It was a fun mission of the week episode, but it did feel mostly like filler.

I liked how Rufus was so smitten with Josephine Baker.

Lucy getting her clean brand new diary was another interesting element. I really can't see them wrapping the season in a nice and tidy bow. It's going to end on some kind of cliffhanger to sell another season.

Re: Timeless (S1E14) -- "The Lost Generation" -- 2/6/17
 

I agree that 8pm would have been a better timeslot. I always DVR and watch it the next day due to the 10 pm airing. I need my sleep before an early work day!

It's the one thing that FOX does right (local news at 10pm instead of a primetime show)


Damn I'm getting old. I look forward to local news these days!!

Re: Timeless (S1E14) -- "The Lost Generation" -- 2/6/17
 

Not sure an earlier slot would have done any good. The core audience is what it is, and they will record it if necessary. The core just isn't big enough. Sad that AARP stuff like NCIS does so much better, but it's reality. Somebody will probably say no way, but it would be cool if this was one of those series that gets shifted to cable and survives.

Re: Timeless (S1E14) -- "The Lost Generation" -- 2/6/17
 

No way. However give NBC credit for attempting something, but it was obvious from the beginning this was going to have a very limited audience.

Re: Timeless (S1E14) -- "The Lost Generation" -- 2/6/17
 

If it's not cable or CW it seems that every show has to be a doctor, lawyer or cop show or it will get cancelled.

Re: Timeless (S1E14) -- "The Lost Generation" -- 2/6/17
 

I don't know that I agree with that. If the tone of the show was set up a bit differently with the focus of the team working through history to stop something Flynn put in place, or research where things went wrong without immediately knowing, then it could have adopted a more procedural setup. I'm thinking more ala Quantum Leap.

I thought the second episode setup more drama than the pilot. Honestly, I don't think the pilot had a big enough hook at the end to grab people.

All that said, I still greatly enjoy the show and don't want it to get cancelled. I'd be fine if they got 12-13 episodes next fall to wrap things up. Frankly, I think NBC needs to bring closure to projects and build good will towards viewers rather than just can half finished shows.

Re: Timeless (S1E14) -- "The Lost Generation" -- 2/6/17
 

Too true.

Barf. I'm sure I'm not the only one that was already disappointed by how much of a procedural Timeless already is. So many of the missions could have been much better played out over multiple episodes. The one with the original Rittenhouse for example.

The last thing sci-fi shows should do is try to appease the AARP crowd like Quantum Leap. That shows plays out like NCIS with time travel. Shows I watch while multi-tasking more important things.

Re: Timeless (S1E14) -- "The Lost Generation" -- 2/6/17
 

Didn't say I wanted that, just that it would have garnered more ratings.

Re: Timeless (S1E14) -- "The Lost Generation" -- 2/6/17
 

Ok, must have misread that. But I disagree. This kind of show is going to have a very specific audience these days and I'm not sure they want a procedural. Which much of this has been given the mission of the week format. So those procedural fans mostly got their wish and those that would have really got into a more in depth sci-fi story line had to deal with a less than optimal format.

Re: Timeless (S1E14) -- "The Lost Generation" -- 2/6/17
 

I don't think Timeless is coming back. It's been fun, if a little lighter in tone than I generally prefer from my sci-fi.

Hindsight being 20-20, I think they needed to push a more serialized narrative those first few episodes. Many sci-fi fans are turned off by procedurals, no matter how clever or well-done they may be.

Re: Timeless (S1E14) -- "The Lost Generation" -- 2/6/17
 

It seems obvious to me that Flynn is using the journal from the future to fix the past.

Re: Timeless (S1E14) -- "The Lost Generation" -- 2/6/17
 

I will actually miss the little (light) history lessons.

Re: Timeless (S1E14) -- "The Lost Generation" -- 2/6/17
 

I also think a serialized narrative would have helped or a setup where they spent two episodes at specific historical event.

Re: Timeless (S1E14) -- "The Lost Generation" -- 2/6/17
 

I just remembered the show time travel show Journeyman which NBC did in the fall of 2007. I really liked that show and I was sad when it got canned. I remember liking it at the time because I was bored with the various cop, doctor, and lawyer shows.

Re: Timeless (S1E14) -- "The Lost Generation" -- 2/6/17
 

I liked that show. At least it was able to wrap a few things up. If a non doctor, lawyer or cop show is on a major network I basically need to think of it as a mini series.

Re: Timeless (S1E14) -- "The Lost Generation" -- 2/6/17
 

Journeyman was excellent and because they knew they were being canceled, they wrapped everything up in the final episode. I would hope the same could happen with Timeless.

This show is one of the few that has spurred discussion in our home, and research on the Internet to learn more about the history. I'd take a different approach from many in this thread and lighten it up a little more and push it back to 7 pm. Let it be a family lead in, but with the drama and action it currently has. This is the kind of show you could possibly get US schools (or at least homeschools) behind if done right, and they would be a steady, loyal audience.

Re: Timeless (S1E14) -- "The Lost Generation" -- 2/6/17
 

Let's face it. Time travel episodic television will never be more than niche.

Time Trax, 7 Days, 12 Monkeys, Journeyman, Timeless. Usually 1 or 2 seasons and that's it.

Re: Timeless (S1E14) -- "The Lost Generation" -- 2/6/17
 

Time travel subject matter turns off a large segment of the population. I've seen it happen again and again. There are many people that had loved Lost and once they introduced time travel issues, dropped it. There are some viewers that simply can't get past it.

The Flash is starting to hit the same wall as parallel timelines and time travel become a bigger and bigger focus of each season.

Re: Timeless (S1E14) -- "The Lost Generation" -- 2/6/17
 

Not even sure why. That's the reason I'm watching it. Same with magic, powers and supernatural themed shows.

Re: Timeless (S1E14) -- "The Lost Generation" -- 2/6/17
 

Do you want to know why or would you just respond, "That doesn't bother me?" The justification for those who don't like time travel because it does bother them is just as valid.

In my case, I like to keep suspension of disbelief at a certain level. TV shows with time travel has two basic issue for me:

1) Because they're time traveling all the time, the consequences of time travel add up quickly.

2) Because they're time traveling all the time, it's difficult to know what to invest in because anything can be wiped out in an instant.

Even with Timeless, I could watch these history lessons for quite awhile, but the show would probably eventually be crushed under its own weight of changing history so much. And that can go either way. Either it will change history a lot, which disconnects me, or actions won't change history as much as they should, and that loses me.

In movies like Terminator, 12 Monkeys, etc. it's easier for me to accept time travel because it's in a contained environment. But as much as I liked the movie, I eventually got tired of 12 Monkeys the TV show.

Lost didn't lose me because it wasn't constant time travel. There was one incident that had an effect and other than getting back to the present, that was about it (unless you count the last season).

Re: Timeless (S1E14) -- "The Lost Generation" -- 2/6/17
 

Except for the missing sister, it does seem whatever they do in the past hasn't had any major effects on the present. They could do stories when they return and Nazis won WW2 or the Soviet Union took over which would then need for them to go back and fix history.

Re: Timeless (S1E14) -- "The Lost Generation" -- 2/6/17
 

I've always assumed because it's too complicated and people watch tv with only a portion of their attention.
People bitched, and moaned and groaned about the first Mission Impossible movie being to complicated and it sucked. I think it's the best one, plot wise.
I'm amazed that the tv series of Mission Impossible was as popular as it was given it's era. You blink and you miss something.

Re: Timeless (S1E14) -- "The Lost Generation" -- 2/6/17
 

The commonly accepted reason most give as to why time travel isn't more popular in serialized entertainment is that it demands a huge amount of focus and attention on multiple story-lines.

Many people don't want or enjoy complicated television. It requires more thinking than purely emotional reactions to the drama. Once a subject like time travel removes a certain segment of viewers from their familiar headspace, it gets tougher and tougher to make an emotional connection.

Re: Timeless (S1E14) -- "The Lost Generation" -- 2/6/17
 

Me responding "that doesn't bother me" would be a given anyway (based on what I have said so far) and makes for a poor reply to a given reason. We all have reasons for why we like and dislike any given theme or subject matter. Sitcoms never stand out because nothing happens, just people doing nothing. Oddly I would likely still be entertained yet without a hook (Magic, powers, time travel, supernatural etc... ) it likely gets overlooked.

Time travel in general always has flaws even if I enjoy the show or movie. I'll catch myself thinking, that does not make any sense yet just enjoy it anyway.

That's a concept I'm not used to. Doing other things while watching tv etc... maybe if it was fluff and not a story line based show. I know people do it like cleaning while they watch tv etc.. I just must take it more seriously than that.

Re: Timeless (S1E14) -- "The Lost Generation" -- 2/6/17
 

While I like the show I don't think it's coming back either.

Limitless was a much better show than this and look how that turned out.

Re: Timeless (S1E14) -- "The Lost Generation" -- 2/6/17
 

Finally caught up with these last two episodes and am glad to finally see some answers starting to be divulged. I enjoy this show and hope we get another season.