Re: The Flash (S3E09) -- Midseason Finale -- "The Present" -- 12/6/16
 

This was an odd episode. Got real Capra at the end. Was odd for some reason...

Re: The Flash (S3E09) -- Midseason Finale -- "The Present" -- 12/6/16
 

Uh, no.


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Re: The Flash (S3E09) -- Midseason Finale -- "The Present" -- 12/6/16
 

Villain maybe but they brought the doctor from the original show back at least twice.

Re: The Flash (S3E09) -- Midseason Finale -- "The Present" -- 12/6/16
 

The ratings environment is just so much different these days. This episode had about 3 million viewers, one of the higher numbers for season three. Flash is down about 15% from last season in the 18-49 demo, though last week's crossover was the highest rated episode since the S1 premiere.

There is a sizable audience that only watches the Flash and doesn't watch Supergirl, Arrow or LOT. Supergirl's ratings on the CW line up closer to Arrow's declining ratings than it does to Flash, which surprises me.

Re: The Flash (S3E09) -- Midseason Finale -- "The Present" -- 12/6/16
 

Promo for the return in January

Re: The Flash (S3E09) -- Midseason Finale -- "The Present" -- 12/6/16
 

Man, Flash sure likes to fuck with the time lines.

Re: The Flash (S3E09) -- Midseason Finale -- "The Present" -- 12/6/16
 

Re: The Flash (S3E09) -- Midseason Finale -- "The Present" -- 12/6/16
 

It's funny because it's true.

Re: The Flash (S3E09) -- Midseason Finale -- "The Present" -- 12/6/16
 

This show needs to very slightly uncomplicate itself

Too many earths, too many timelines, too many speedsters

Re: The Flash (S3E09) -- Midseason Finale -- "The Present" -- 12/6/16
 

I've never understood why people want such simple television. The most serious issue is the introduction of multiple Harrison Wells, from this season's goofball to the original Reverse Flash-impersonating-HW version seen in season one. I can imagine more casual viewers don't have a grasp on why HW's personality changes season to season.

It doesn't bother me, as time travel should have real consequences. All too often other shows confine the ramifications of time travel to one or two episodes, resetting everything back to normal by the end.

Re: The Flash (S3E09) -- Midseason Finale -- "The Present" -- 12/6/16
 

I get 5 out of 6. I can't figure not the green thing. It's not a lantern is it?

Re: The Flash (S3E09) -- Midseason Finale -- "The Present" -- 12/6/16
 

I think the multiple Earth plot ideas make more sense then the time travel ones. The show is just bad at time travel. The first time he ran back in time he just lived his day over. What the hell happened to the Barry that hadn't traveled through time yet??? He just disappeared. They really should have done at Back to the Future 2 thing with two Barrys being there.

Then the writers just use it for retcons. "Diggle has a son now, Snow showed no signs of power now has them....Flashpoint!!!"

Re: The Flash (S3E09) -- Midseason Finale -- "The Present" -- 12/6/16
 

The "deaths" have lost their impact now to me and I have lost a lot of interest in this show unfortunately. They will just bring the person/actor back via another universe or time travel. It loses the impact that a death like Eddie had in season 1.

Re: The Flash (S3E09) -- Midseason Finale -- "The Present" -- 12/6/16
 

And yet Eddie hasn't returned. :lol:

Re: The Flash (S3E09) -- Midseason Finale -- "The Present" -- 12/6/16
 

He came back for a cameo in season 2. It's probably because the writers don't want anyone else to interfere with the awesome chemistry that Iris and Barry have :rolleyes:

Re: The Flash (S3E09) -- Midseason Finale -- "The Present" -- 12/6/16
 

Nah, he was a boring ass character. Nothing good can come from bringing him back. Kinda like Pete Ross on Smallville.

Re: The Flash (S3E09) -- Midseason Finale -- "The Present" -- 12/6/16
 

I still don't understand why Barry's time-altering doesn't mess with the timeline on the parallel Earths.

Re: The Flash (S3E09) -- Midseason Finale -- "The Present" -- 12/6/16
 

Barry didn't go to the past on the other Earths. They haven't had contact with our Earth until the present. I say Barry goes to Earth 2 and go back and kicks a dog. Fuck up their timeline like he fucked up ours.

Re: The Flash (S3E09) -- Midseason Finale -- "The Present" -- 12/6/16
 

And yet Jay was able to Earth hop, even after they sent him back through the portal.

Re: The Flash (S3E09) -- Midseason Finale -- "The Present" -- 12/6/16
 

Just pretend Cisco gave him a prototype of the gadget he game Supergirl of camera.

Re: The Flash (S3E09) -- Midseason Finale -- "The Present" -- 12/6/16
 

I never understood what happened to the other Barry either, and i don't understand the whole time remnant nonsense from season 2

Re: The Flash (S3E09) -- Midseason Finale -- "The Present" -- 12/6/16
 

Agreed. We're finally getting comic book shows with actual comic book storylines, and people want to go back to self contained episodes where Flash stops bank robbers or something.

Maybe they should resurrect that plot device from the 90's Flash where he could only run for a limited time before dying. That would keep a show about speedsters from having too much fast running.