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Arrow (S5E05) -- "Human Target" -- 11/2/16




WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 2

ARROW

"Human Target" - (8:00-9:00 p.m. ET) (Content Rating TBD) (HDTV)

DC COMICS' CHRISTOPHER CHANCE AKA HUMAN TARGET TEAMS UP WITH OLIVER - When Tobias Church (guest star Chad L. Coleman) captures and tortures one of Oliver's new recruits, Oliver must turn to an old friend, Christopher Chance (guest star Wil Traval) AKA the Human Target, for help. Meanwhile, Felicity's (Emily Bett Rickards) worlds collide when Detective Malone (guest star Tyler Ritter) joins the ACU. Laura Belsey directed the episode written by Oscar Balderrama & Sarah Tarkoff (#505). Original airdate 11/2/2016.

Episode 5 of 23


New actor playing the Christopher Chance character, who Mark Valley played in the former FOX TV series.
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Re: Arrow (S5E05) -- "Human Target" -- 11/2/16

I enjoyed Will Travel as Christopher Chance.
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Re: Arrow (S5E05) -- "Human Target" -- 11/2/16

A very cool episode. Arrow has made a remarkable leap in quality this season.
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Re: Arrow (S5E05) -- "Human Target" -- 11/2/16

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I enjoyed Will Travel as Christopher Chance.
Ya don't say...

I thought he was really bland in the role. I liked him on Jessica Jones though.
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Re: Arrow (S5E05) -- "Human Target" -- 11/2/16

Originally Posted by Hokeyboy View Post
A very cool episode. Arrow has made a remarkable leap in quality this season.
Indeed, so Amell was right. I recall right after Flash and then the year DC Legends took off he was pretty upset that the writers that were writing for Arrow didn't understand the show and that the creators were so focused on the other shows that Arrow felt the brunt of it. Glad to see it bouncing back and hope it holds on all season.
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Re: Arrow (S5E05) -- "Human Target" -- 11/2/16

It was a good episode, but this version of Christopher Chance made no impression on me. He was a very minor character here without much personality. Only thing I thought that was neat was Chance's tie-in to Oliver's Russian past. So he actually met him beforehand in disguise.

Last sequence with Prometheus taking out all those cops and Tobias Church was cool. I'm looking forward to seeing where that goes.

I liked Diggle's new helmet.

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Re: Arrow (S5E05) -- "Human Target" -- 11/2/16

Yeah, this Chance was nowhere near as good as Valley's was.
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Re: Arrow (S5E05) -- "Human Target" -- 11/2/16

I like that this season is returning to form for the show. I don't like the inconsistency though. In the first episode Oliver kills a red shirt when he's kidnapped to keep his secret. In this episode, he lets Church live and is pretty nonchalant about it? They could have at least ripped off the end of the Daredevil movie.

I'm guessing Prometheus is linked to the Russia flashbacks. Question is is he Victor or Anitolli? That's a strange choice for the name considering the namesake of Prometheus is generally considered mankinds alloy?
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Re: Arrow (S5E05) -- "Human Target" -- 11/2/16

I did not care for this Christopher Chance. Was Mark Valley unavailable? Now I have to go back and watch the first season of Human Target.

I don't think Oliver leaving Chance unscathed was inconsistent. Chance was brought in by Diggle so if Diggle trusts him, then Oliver assumes he's trustworthy. Oliver probably also did some research of his own on Chance even if he didn't say so.
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Re: Arrow (S5E05) -- "Human Target" -- 11/2/16

Originally Posted by lisadoris View Post
I did not care for this Christopher Chance. Was Mark Valley unavailable? Now I have to go back and watch the first season of Human Target.

I don't think Oliver leaving Chance unscathed was inconsistent. Chance was brought in by Diggle so if Diggle trusts him, then Oliver assumes he's trustworthy. Oliver probably also did some research of his own on Chance even if he didn't say so.
Kdogg was talking about letting Church live after he found out his identity.
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I'm going to miss Blackneto. not.
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This season has been great. Too bad the hardcore Olicity fans are trying to affect the ratings, and harass the producers.
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Re: Arrow (S5E05) -- "Human Target" -- 11/2/16

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I did not care for this Christopher Chance. Was Mark Valley unavailable? Now I have to go back and watch the first season of Human Target.

I don't think Oliver leaving Chance unscathed was inconsistent. Chance was brought in by Diggle so if Diggle trusts him, then Oliver assumes he's trustworthy. Oliver probably also did some research of his own on Chance even if he didn't say so.
Apparently Mark Valley is filming a new TV show for Freeform.

His version of Christopher Chance was from a different creative team, so it would have been unlikely that the Arrow producers would have cast him.
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Re: Arrow (S5E05) -- "Human Target" -- 11/2/16

As somebody that watched every episode of The Human Target, I liked him showing up, but would like more. I also preferred the actor in the Fox series, but realize they was no way they were going to use him.

This season has been a huge improvement so far despite thee couple weak points in the new team (Dog!)

Since I figure Dog is here to stay, the only change I would make is just to remove all the Felicity relationship stuff. Show is better without it.

Hoping there is a connection between Prometheus the Russia story.
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Re: Arrow (S5E05) -- "Human Target" -- 11/2/16

It wouldn't surprise me if Felicity's new boyfriend is Prometheus.

Oliver has gone back to being a brutal vigilante. It also appears Thea won't be suiting up anytime soon.
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Re: Arrow (S5E05) -- "Human Target" -- 11/2/16

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It wouldn't surprise me if Felicity's new boyfriend is Prometheus.

Oliver has gone back to being a brutal vigilante. It also appears Thea won't be suiting up anytime soon.
That was my thought as well. Liked the use of the Target in the present (whole lotta research in a short time tho eh?) but in Russia? Seemed a stretch.
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Re: Arrow (S5E05) -- "Human Target" -- 11/2/16

I agree with the overall sentiment that this season has been better, but being better than season 4 would not be difficult.

It's too bad Christopher Chance didn't give us an update on his relationship with Pucci. I think all Human Target fans were hoping for that.
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I really miss Mark Valley. He was so good and charismatic in that role especially in contrast to how boring Will Travel was. He also looked entirely different from when he was on Jessica Jones. Still it was fun to see Christopher Chance.

Good to have Diggle back in the fold again, though I was at everyone talking about how amazing he is when all he was doing was standing up and shooting at some guards.

Looks like we got to see the Vigilante costume before Adrian suits up which was nice to see.

I have to say that I like how there finding ways for the other characters to do something that fits them without them being on the street with Oliver Thea being the best example of that. I hope she never suits up ever again.

It's fun to see people guess who Prometheus is(even though he looks like Komodo). So far I've seen: Tommy Merlyn(which I think would make sense), Felicity's boyfriend, Shado, and someone random from the flashbacks.
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Re: Arrow (S5E05) -- "Human Target" -- 11/2/16

I still don't understand why Ragman just doesn't run/fly around and take everyone out on his own? None of the villains they've faced so far has been a match for him. He's more suitable for someone like Damien Dark than what we've seen so far.

Reminds of me of Firestorm on LoT. Outclasses the rest of the team.

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