The Walking Dead (S7E01) -- "The Day Will Come When You Won't Be" -- 10/23/16
10-24-16, 02:47 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E01) -- "The Day Will Come When You Won't Be" -- 10/23/16
I did watch the 90 minute Talking Dead last night. It was nice seeing most of the principal cast there. However, is it just me or is the show mostly uninformative and full of rambling?
Jeffrey Dean Morgan barely got 5 minutes of talk time before the show ended.
Jeffrey Dean Morgan barely got 5 minutes of talk time before the show ended.
10-24-16, 04:59 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E01) -- "The Day Will Come When You Won't Be" -- 10/23/16
My favorite part is always when they talk to the actors as they would if they were talking to the characters from the show. And better yet, when the actor accepts the comments/applause/etc as though they are the character in the show. I know this isn't a TWD thing it is a "con" thing, but since I don't participate in those it still cracks me up when I see it.
10-24-16, 05:26 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E01) -- "The Day Will Come When You Won't Be" -- 10/23/16
Why is everyone so shocked that Negan has followers and no one has taken him out? Anyone remember Charles Manson? Did any of his followers try to take him out? Some people are sheep and need to follow someone that they feel will protect them, especially considering this type of event. Maybe someone DID try to take out Negan, like how others in the past have tried to take out Rick, and Negan got his point across in that end where everyone fell in line.
10-24-16, 05:28 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E01) -- "The Day Will Come When You Won't Be" -- 10/23/16
They overdid it with The Talking Dead this week. Having the cast playing to a big audience instead of discussing the show and the new season leads to rambling. A sloshed Norman Reedus didn't help.
10-24-16, 06:07 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E01) -- "The Day Will Come When You Won't Be" -- 10/23/16
Talking Dead is basically just the main show masturbating to itself. They can never critique, only praise. The audience accordingly gets right into this mindset. I get why they have this show though: it gets fans to hear from and interact with the actors/directors/writers, it's very cheap to produce, and it gets better ratings than most of AMC's scripted shows.
10-24-16, 06:32 PM
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10-24-16, 07:50 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E01) -- "The Day Will Come When You Won't Be" -- 10/23/16
Really liked this ep. Typically don't get this kind of intensity from TWD, mostly just GoT. JDM 100% owned it as Negan. I had read up on how two people were going to die and who they most likely were, so I wasn't too surprised by the selection. I was a bit surprised by how AMC "went there" the with the brutality. I thought maybe they would cut away and not show graphic detail , but I was wrong. Showing Glenn's twitching hand and his pretty much headless body was pushing it a bit. It would fit Game of Thrones, but not as much this show.
If you want to create a strong villain on a TV show, this is how you do it. Everyone is going to be waiting with baited breath to see someone take Negan down. However, given that he's allegedly still alive in the comics, I doubt it will happen any time soon. In fact, while he may lose power, I see his final moments possibly being held until the series finale .
10-24-16, 07:51 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E01) -- "The Day Will Come When You Won't Be" -- 10/23/16
So now there's only 5 of the original characters still on the show, right? Rick, Carl, Carol, Daryl, and Morgan.
10-24-16, 08:30 PM
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10-24-16, 08:33 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E01) -- "The Day Will Come When You Won't Be" -- 10/23/16
Yes, it was a brutal episode. Yes it may have been more disturbing than any previous episode (even that can be argued though). There's a reason for that.
But the way people are reacting, it's like they've never seen a zombie movie before. I recommend these people stay away from Dead Alive or any Romero zombie movie.
10-24-16, 09:38 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E01) -- "The Day Will Come When You Won't Be" -- 10/23/16
I was very surprised we got this episode already. I fully expected an episode or two of Carol, Morgan, and The Kingdom before they came back to the main group.
10-24-16, 09:41 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E01) -- "The Day Will Come When You Won't Be" -- 10/23/16
Well I think realistically if you want to take over control of a group of people they first then you do is take away their current command structure.. so you take out the leader. So I think taking him out would have been the most logical thing to do instead of picking 2 random folks. At the same time I guess it could be said that him breaking the leader of the group could be a productive way of getting everyone else in line. However, as we know, Rick only breaks for a little while and then he's back for vengeance.
Making the leader submit is clearly better than killing them if you have to live with the group after the fact. And he just bat bashed the two most capable of taking over and captured the other.
10-24-16, 09:45 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E01) -- "The Day Will Come When You Won't Be" -- 10/23/16
http://comicbook.com/thewalkingdead/...-leaks-online/
Alternate scene leaked with Maggie getting her brains bashed. Video quality sucks though.
I'm betting all of these alternate scenes will make their way to the BD next year.
Alternate scene leaked with Maggie getting her brains bashed. Video quality sucks though.
I'm betting all of these alternate scenes will make their way to the BD next year.
10-24-16, 09:51 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E01) -- "The Day Will Come When You Won't Be" -- 10/23/16
So they teased us in the season finale, only to come back and tease us for another 15 minutes in the premiere. This episode should've been only 30 minutes if they stopped fucking around.
I knew it was never going to happen, but I'm still wishing for Rick's death. I'm tired of him as the centre of the show.
And way to go Daryl... stupid hillbilly got Glenn killed.
The show needs medical people on the staff... to tell the writers what a person is capable and incapable of after a severe blow to the head with a baseball bat wrapped in barbed-wire.
I knew it was never going to happen, but I'm still wishing for Rick's death. I'm tired of him as the centre of the show.
And way to go Daryl... stupid hillbilly got Glenn killed.
The show needs medical people on the staff... to tell the writers what a person is capable and incapable of after a severe blow to the head with a baseball bat wrapped in barbed-wire.
10-24-16, 10:11 PM
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10-24-16, 10:18 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E01) -- "The Day Will Come When You Won't Be" -- 10/23/16
This times ten. I'm getting a kick out of people here lamenting about Negan's followers, yet we are still supposed to see Rick as a hero?! Rick lost me a long time ago. The group would have been better off without his "leadership" for quite some time.
10-24-16, 10:48 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E01) -- "The Day Will Come When You Won't Be" -- 10/23/16
It's amazing after 7 seasons the passion this show can still bring out. I got up early and watched it with 2 cups of coffee before work. Yikes. What an episode. I can't really add anything that hasn't already been said. I will say I love horror movies, and I'm 44, but can say I haven't had anything affect me quite like this episode, especially the Glenn thing.
10-24-16, 11:42 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E01) -- "The Day Will Come When You Won't Be" -- 10/23/16
Wow, well that was... something. I'm not sure if I'd say it was 'entertaining' though. It was damn intense and brutal for a basic cable show.
I do have to agree with someone above that said it's basically all downhill from here in regards to future villains. In fact it might just be downhill from here for the season. The premier kinda reminded me of season 4 of 24. They dropped a fucking nuke in the first four episodes which seemed pretty fucking awesome at the time but little did we know there was no going up from there, it was all downhill... way downhill.
Sorry, 'because zombie show' doesn't justify the level of brutality of this episode. There's no need to show a character's skull crushed in, eyeball popping out and brain function slowing trying to talk before showing another blow, and then showing another half dozen shots to the lifeless corpse. Then multiply that by two. It was way over the top. You can get Negan's psychotic demeanor and violence across without showing everything. And yes, there is a fine line between showing the same thing happen to a zombie.
I do agree about the language though. I'd prefer a few f bombs sporatically placed to the torture porn.
After seeing it play out, I'm more convinced it was the right move. The severity of Negan's actions would have been lessened if the scene was split. And had they went ahead and showed the kill back in the Spring, they would have lost viewers even sooner and I do think this episode will turn off many viewers.
Gimmie a break. Sorry but anyone that has made it this far is a 'real fan.' One doesn't just casually watch six seasons of a show if they aren't into it.
Only she doesn't have a massive following. She has a massive group of people that hate the other guy. Kinda like joining team Governor because the other guy is Negan... or probably more apt, voting for Emperor Palpatine because the other guy is Jar Jar Binks.
Brilliant indeed. These characters couldn't possibly be written any better.
I do have to agree with someone above that said it's basically all downhill from here in regards to future villains. In fact it might just be downhill from here for the season. The premier kinda reminded me of season 4 of 24. They dropped a fucking nuke in the first four episodes which seemed pretty fucking awesome at the time but little did we know there was no going up from there, it was all downhill... way downhill.
I also don't get the people's complaints about the violence. Yes, it was brutal and over the top. But you're watching a show called The Walking Dead, based on content that is brutal and violent. This is what the character called for. If they didn't go all out, there would've been complaints of it being watered down. Also, AMC needs to nut up and allow more language, ala FX. If you ARE going to be this brutal with the violence, there is no reason to not allow more colorful language.
I do agree about the language though. I'd prefer a few f bombs sporatically placed to the torture porn.
As I expected, the cliffhanger approach essentially muted this episode of emotional impact for me. It usually takes me a good episode into a new season of a show for me to reconnect to the characters, so this 'come back from a hiatus and reveal a death' wasn't so shocking or emotional as it was 'just tell me who dies already'. I was curious, but not as connected as I was in those final moments of last season.
Gimmie a break. Sorry but anyone that has made it this far is a 'real fan.' One doesn't just casually watch six seasons of a show if they aren't into it.
10-24-16, 11:50 PM
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Just for context, the issue where this happened (and I had been reading month to month for 7 years at that point) came out the same week that a main character on Mad Men died. That was a rough week for me.
10-24-16, 11:59 PM
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10-25-16, 12:37 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E01) -- "The Day Will Come When You Won't Be" -- 10/23/16
But where does it end? I stopped watching the series two seasons ago when I realized that this story has no where to go. It's just a group traveling from A>B>C with the occasional "shocking" death thrown in.
I enjoyed the first 3 seasons somewhat, but the more I realized this was just the group going from one place to the next, I just couldnt keep watching.
The only "reason" I can see for the existence of this show is to keep watching just to see who dies next.
Game of Thrones is bleak, but the journey has an eventual conclusion that, in theory, justifies the deaths and sacrifices.
This is just waiting for the next death while changing the location and protagonist.
I'm not trying to shit on anyone that enjoys it, but I would like to know what keeps people watching week to week.
I enjoyed the first 3 seasons somewhat, but the more I realized this was just the group going from one place to the next, I just couldnt keep watching.
The only "reason" I can see for the existence of this show is to keep watching just to see who dies next.
Game of Thrones is bleak, but the journey has an eventual conclusion that, in theory, justifies the deaths and sacrifices.
This is just waiting for the next death while changing the location and protagonist.
I'm not trying to shit on anyone that enjoys it, but I would like to know what keeps people watching week to week.
As you said, they've developed a relentlessly bleak zombie apocalypse formula they will keep using until the show gets canceled.
I continue to be mystified how it's the highest rated show on television.
10-25-16, 12:48 AM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S7E01) -- "The Day Will Come When You Won't Be" -- 10/23/16
A day late, don't mind spoilers so I looked up, but found the time to stream it on AMC's website tonight. I enjoyed the episode, and I liked that they showed how brutal it was. I guess i'm the opposite of those who complained about how over the top the violence was and calling it torture porn, because i've seen enough things happen off screen in movies and TV with convenient cuts to spare people to visuals and for me it often loses it's impact for me. I think this is the perfect kind of show to show that kind of violence against actual people rather then just constantly with zombies, especially as we've followed this group of characters for so long.
I'm pretty damn impressed that they went there with Glenn and mirrored the comic imagery - right down to the eye popping out. I never thought they would show that kind of stuff on AMC, so actually seeing it was shocking in a positive way. I also didn't think they would kill 2 people, Glenn being one of them after the dumpster nonsense, so that really did throw me off.
The only thing I didn't like was that Glenn and Abraham were two of the better remaining characters, and only Rick, Carol, and Daryl really being the only ones left for me.
Anyway, i've had off and on issues with the show, but this opening wasn't one of them. I thought it was a good start.
I'm pretty damn impressed that they went there with Glenn and mirrored the comic imagery - right down to the eye popping out. I never thought they would show that kind of stuff on AMC, so actually seeing it was shocking in a positive way. I also didn't think they would kill 2 people, Glenn being one of them after the dumpster nonsense, so that really did throw me off.
The only thing I didn't like was that Glenn and Abraham were two of the better remaining characters, and only Rick, Carol, and Daryl really being the only ones left for me.
Anyway, i've had off and on issues with the show, but this opening wasn't one of them. I thought it was a good start.