This. Episode would have been an acceptable one-off if they had not killed of one of the few enjoyable characters they added from Earth 2.

It is indeed ridiculous that character's continue to use the wrong name. Blindspot is the worst with everybody still using Jane Doe when they have fully proven her actual identity.

Seems likely Wally will get his speed while working in the engineering lab in college.

Another boring episode, cmon flash, don't have the sophmore blues

the whole reverse flash/double reverse () flash thing has been boring for a while, tbh

I really hope the 'big bad' of S3 isn't another evil speedster in the veins of Reverse Flash / Zoom. This whole season has just been a pale rehash of season one imo besides the first quarter being used as simple setup and advertisement for Legends of Tomorrow.

I think the show will bounce back with the rest of the season. I think the seasons need to be shorter. Filler episodes can be fun, but they've mostly been bad on this show.

So this is going back from season 1, but is Flash still set to disappear in 2019 or whatever, or was that potential future squashed when Reverse Flash never existed at the end of season 1?

Grodd and Gorilla City? Even bringing back Cold and Heatwave would be welcome compared to much of this season.

Would love to see Grodd pay another visit with characters like Solovar chasing him.

I felt bad for Grodd last time he was there

I would love to see the Black Racer as the Big Bad of season three. That would be something different.

New Gods in the Arrowverse? I thought Black Racer was sort of a "death" abstract. How can The Flash compete against that?

Rather see someone like The Spectre show up (we know Jim Corrigan exists in Constantine) and have Barry try to prevent him doling out justice.

I hope they do something novel for season three and have the big bad not be a speedster.

I guess I'll stand alone. I loved this season... not as much as season one, but I thought it was damn entertaining. Loved Zoom, loved King Shark, loved Earth 2, loved and miss Patty already, Grodd is always awesome... I even enjoyed all the LoT setup. It was also great getting "Wells" back. The only real con for me this season is how Wally was handled.

Indeed, especially if they're planning on introducing Wally as Kid Flash. A couple of speedsters a season are plenty.

This episode was incredibly dull. Overall this season has been rather disappointing. I hope they step it up next season.

I think the basic themes and character introductions have been great, it's just lacking the same level of execution we saw in season one. The villains have largely been better this season and King Shark was awesome.

I have thought that the whole Earth 2 concept could have been handled better. They didn't flesh it out enough for my tastes and made Barry look like an idiot when he first visited it.

Oh, probably the best part of this episode was Harry calling out Barry. Despite what Joe said, everybody is in the position they are because of Barry's plan. Kudos for the writers realizing the plan was outright dumb.

Her flirting with herself was hilarious. "You've seen our body, right? Why do you cover them up?"

Lots of people have said that, actually.

They already did the "hero loses his powers" thing in season one. Do we have to go through this again, this time for several episodes?

She was called for so long, and since her memory hasn't come back, I guess that's how she thinks of herself.

Yeah, even the "mentor turns out to be the bad guy" thing again. And him getting his own time remnant from a parallel universe makes no freaking sense.

That's initially who I thought Zoom was supposed to be. They basically used that visual.

There was a genuine exuberance to the fact they could do what they were in season one. Either the CW leaned on them to stay with what worked, or they're scared to go somewhere new.

Apparently we were supposed to be fine with the fact that Barry knocked out his double and was going home with his wife. The Earth-2 stuff is a cool idea, but it opened way too many new things up and the show is having trouble focusing now. The whole parallel universe means too many balls in the air.