dex14

13 episodes 4th season.

mphtrilogy

Looking forward to this season!

Luds

Yes this is one of the best shows on TV, hope this year delivers again!

coli

Finally caught up on the first 3 seasons as I'm looking forward to watching this week to week now. I'm still suprised that this show doesn't have a bigger audience as I can't get any of my friends to watch it for some strange reason. It's definetly the most underrated show on TV right now, IMO.

Luds

I have experienced the same resistance. A friend of mine loves politics and cold war stuff and didn't like the show! Thought it was too slow.

creekdipper

Is this supposed to be the final season?

DJariya

Nope. The creators said recently they're unsure when it will end.

slop101

My disconnect with the show is how hard it is for me to believe all the shit their juggling; 2 or 3 jobs, aliases, children, affairs, multiple marriages, etc. There's no way anyone can keep that many plates spinning at once.

buckeyes8604

Can't wait! It seems like it's been forever since last season's finale.

Decker

So psyched to watch this. I never stay up to watch shows at 10 anymore, but I will tonight.

DJariya

Pretty good start. Very Martha and Clark heavy episode.

My recording cut off when Phil and Elizabeth pulled up in their garage with Stan walking up. What happened afterwards?

MrX

Stan pushed Phil up against the wall and asked if he was sleeping with his wife. Phil said no, Stan left, and Phil pullsd out the vile to make sure it did not break.

Luds

Good start although the ending was kinda meh.

The Martha stuff was good. She really believes he's in love with her and will just do his bidding. Philip, or I should say Clark, is da man.

mphtrilogy

Don't remember him ditching the disguise fully..

Phillip is walking a tightrope now..

This won't end well for Martha

slop101

Ugh. More coincidental happenstance! Stan's girlfriend just so happens to see Stan's ex with Phil, just at the moment they're sharing desert, and Stan just happens to confront him and grab his jacket when Phil just happens to have a deadly pathogen in his jacket pocket. So fucking stupid! It was bad enough that they just happen to live across the street from someone like Stan. But they just keep piling this shit on.

rocket1312

I agree that this is the biggest flaw with the show, but I think I give it a pass because the plotting of the story has never been particularly dependent on action and incident. The focus and drive has always been characters and their relationships. Unless I'm forgetting something from the earlier seasons (which is very possible), the absurd logistics of it all never come in to play in a way that really matters. Compare that to something like 24, where the entire show is just a continually escalating sequence of events dependent on that shaky logistical reality.

Deftones

I had forgotten that Phillip killed that FBI guy and was going to frame him.

coli

Good premiere episode, and if you watch the previews at the end for the upcoming season:



Or there could be no coincidences and nothing happens in the show and they live happily ever after!

slop101

Plenty of shows create good drama without such blatant coincidences, Yost's own Justified being an example.

mphtrilogy

Andy Greenwald has a good podcast this week with the Show's creators/showrunners... very good listen

davidh777

I don't think it's that big a stretch for them to have been seen by someone they know. Weren't they eating at an outside table? It is convenient for plot purposes that it was Stan's girlfriend, but at least it wasn't Stan himself!

rocket1312

Is Stan's girlfriend seeing Philip and Sandra really that much of a coincidence? Presumably they were all at the EST meeting and they happened to stop by the same local restaurant afterwards. I don't see that as being such a big deal.

As for Stan coming over to the house, if you can accept that he happens to live next door to them (and that's by far the the show's biggest stretch along with the insane schedules the Jennings must keep), anytime he comes over to the house there's going to be the possibility that he catches them in the middle of something. Sure it was convenient that he grabbed Philip when he happened to have the vial in his pocket, but it's not like that scene was really about the vial. It was more or less just a metaphor for the fragility of Philip's life/situation and served to illustrate the perpetual tightrope that he and Elizabeth walk. I find that sort of thing far less egregious than when the actual plot is furthered by those sorts of coincidences.

PhantomStranger

Was that reveal about Philip's childhood a new revelation? I don't remember him mentioning it before this episode.

davidh777

It was new to me

mcnabb

I saw my friends mom out to lunch with 'another' man once as they were dumb enough to eat in a local place. Coincidences like this happen.