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johnnysd 02-14-16 09:21 AM

Superhero Burnout?
 
Is it just me or is anyone getting just burned out and generally weary of Superhero shows. I know I am.

I dumped Arrow and do not miss it. I don't really miss Agents of Shield and not sure I continue. Have not started Agent Carter, skipped Legends of Tomorrow entirely, Supergirl is backing up and I am not sure I care. I still watch Flash, and I will watch Gotham when it comes back but I am not sure even that will last forever.

It just seems overplayed and the shows are very very repetitive. And really not all that different with the exception of Gotham.

I like SuperHeros, but I have not read a comic since the 80s, so all the little easter eggs and things like that mean nothing to me. In fact I find most SH show threads to be incredibly spoiler-y actually since it is assumed you know the comics.

It just seems like there is almost too much TV to watch now, and I am just finding myself less and less inspired by these shows.I loved them for a while but they just weary me now.

Anyone else feeling this way?

Red Dog 02-14-16 09:26 AM

Re: Superhero Burnout?
 
I said previously it's a golden age of TV if you're a comic book fan.

I dumped Agents of Shield a season or so ago. Storyline was just way too convoluted. Never watched Arrow and from what I've seen in the Flash crossovers, it wouldn't be my cup of tea. Never had any interest in Agent Carter.

I watch Supergirl, Flash, Legends, Gotham and Daredevil. So no, I'm not tired of it. I also don't nit pick and nerd out about these shows. Try to stay out of the discussion threads.

I could start a similar thread about fantasy/vampire/zombie shows (which I have zero interest in), but I don't. I simply don't watch them.

TGM 02-14-16 09:27 AM

Re: Superhero Burnout?
 
No.

Some superhero shows are good, others not so much. Much like some dramas or comedies are good, and others are not.

If you don't like, don't watch.

Trevor 02-14-16 09:27 AM

Re: Superhero Burnout?
 
Jeez, how much TV do you watch? I love every comic show so far, but can't find the time to watch them all. I'd maybe burn out if I watched them all.

Groucho 02-14-16 10:01 AM

Re: Superhero Burnout?
 
Yeah, they should cancel some of these superhero shows to make room for doctor and lawyer shows.

stingermck 02-14-16 10:10 AM

Re: Superhero Burnout?
 
No with only reading the thread title

mndtrp 02-14-16 10:14 AM

Re: Superhero Burnout?
 
Nope. Just like with movies, music, or books, if I start getting tired of one genre or topic, I can switch to something different.

DJariya 02-14-16 11:21 AM

Re: Superhero Burnout?
 
Absolutely not.

I love that in 2016 we have more channels, platforms and genres (Superheroes/comics especially) that can keep us as viewers occupied year round. More hours than the average person/family can watch in 1 week let alone 1 year. I love the Superhero and comic genre just as much as most here, but I also try to balance my viewing out with other things.

Not like 35-40 years ago when there were only 3 major networks and only procedurals, multi-camera sitcoms, family dramas and game shows to watch.

Original Desmond 02-14-16 11:30 AM

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Nope i love most of them but don't quite watch all of them

I do however wish that there were a few more standard action shows. It seems any new ones (like the Player) do not attract audiences like superhero shows do

Michael Corvin 02-14-16 11:59 AM

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No offense to the OP but there are probably a hundred+ shows on tv, netflix, amazon, yahoo, etc. Superhero shows are a drop in the bucket.

Flash
Arrow
Legends of Tomorrow
Supergirl
Gotham
Daredevil
Jessica Jones
Agent Carter
Powers
Heroes
Agents (it's not a superhero show) of SHIELD

Honestly I'm grateful even if I only watch a few of them... the tv landscape is finally getting away from shitty reality shows.


Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 12723498)
Yeah, they should cancel some of these superhero shows to make room for doctor and lawyer shows.

:lol: :up:

More Law & Order, NCIS and CSI spin-offs, please.

majorjoe23 02-14-16 12:03 PM

Re: Superhero Burnout?
 
The president of FX said there are around 400 scripted shows currently. Only 321 of them are superhero shows.

PhantomStranger 02-14-16 12:19 PM

Re: Superhero Burnout?
 
Deadpool just massively out-performed expectations at the box office and most people expect two of this year's top three movies at the box office will be superhero movies.

It's just you. I will agree that the Arrow formula is becoming stale since so many shows seem to be duplicating it.

I expect new takes on superheroes will start coming out. They've already greenlit Damage Control, which is a basically a superhero comedy version of The Office.

mrhan 02-14-16 12:35 PM

Re: Superhero Burnout?
 
Growing up in the 70's reading comic books I always wished they would make movies and tv shows. Now that it's happening I'm not complaining one bit. I watch what I like and I hope it continues.

Michael Corvin 02-14-16 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by majorjoe23 (Post 12723570)
The president of FX said there are around 400 scripted shows currently. Only 321 of them are superhero shows.

Roughly a dozen shows out of 400. So a whopping 3% of scripted television shows and even less if you factor in non-scripted. Overload indeed. ;)

Xiroteus 02-14-16 04:49 PM

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Not at all, I watch every single one.

Most of the shows I watch are based on powers, abilities, magic, supernatural, sci-fi etc.... not so much into random doctor, police, lawyer, sitcom show number eight hundred.

I really just ignore what does not look appealing and watch what does. I understand the point of watching a lot of the same type of shows and you personally feel burt out by the concept. I like powers, comics too much for that to happen.

davidh777 02-14-16 04:51 PM

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If you're burned out, I suggest you stop watching. There are many ways to catch up later if you want to.

Jason 02-14-16 06:36 PM

Re: Superhero Burnout?
 

Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 12723498)
Yeah, they should cancel some of these superhero shows to make room for doctor and lawyer shows.

Don't forget family sitcoms with smart-mouthed brats.

Jason 02-14-16 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 12723662)
Roughly a dozen shows out of 400. So a whopping 3% of scripted television shows and even less if you factor in non-scripted. Overload indeed. ;)

Does The Walking Dead count as a super-hero show? Rick has a super-power, after all, and that power is ruining the lives (if not outright causing the death) of literally everyone he meets.

Eric F 02-14-16 11:20 PM

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I'm still waiting on that Detective Chimp show...:banana:

DWilson 02-14-16 11:29 PM

Re: Superhero Burnout?
 
I had an answer as soon as I saw the thread title, but I'm so glad to see so many smart answers that I didn't really have to.

johnnysd 02-15-16 12:04 AM

Re: Superhero Burnout?
 
Yes I can stop watching, but the distinction I was trying to make is that I used to really love these shows, but am losing interest in the genre. Not saying people should dislike them at all. Was just curious.

Xiroteus 02-15-16 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by johnnysd (Post 12723980)
Yes I can stop watching, but the distinction I was trying to make is that I used to really love these shows, but am losing interest in the genre. Not saying people should dislike them at all. Was just curious.

Are there genres that stand out more. Personally without powers, magic, sci-fi, fantasty, supernatural we would be left with laywer, cop and doctor shows. Of course you said nothing about those, just superheroes in general.

MikahC 02-15-16 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by johnnysd (Post 12723980)
the distinction I was trying to make is that I used to really love these shows, but am losing interest in the genre.

I've absolutely not lost interest in the genre, but I've dropped most of the shows after sampling them. I look forward to the movies more than the TV shows. It's about more than genre. It's about the show. Just because I like Game of Thrones doesn't mean I'm going to like Reign. Comic shows haven't really had their Game of Thrones yet, because we're mostly dealing with a WB that distributes via CW and CBS, and a Marvel that distributes via ABC. Heroes (NBC) and Powers (PSN) are notable exceptions. But if there's still room for a premium cable network (or really, even something like AMC or F/X) to really take it to the next level.

For me, none of the current crop of Comic-based shows are great, but they're OK if you're just looking to fill some time. Also, they're useful from a foundational standpoint as they allow the industry to see what can work (time, budgets, storytelling devices, etc.). I'm hoping things will get better over time. Maybe not with the current crop of shows, but with the shows that follow.

Hailey G 02-15-16 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MikahC (Post 12724003)
I've absolutely not lost interest in the genre, but I've dropped most of the shows after sampling them. I look forward to the movies more than the TV shows. It's about more than genre. It's about the show. Just because I like Game of Thrones doesn't mean I'm going to like Reign. Comic shows haven't really had their Game of Thrones yet, because we're mostly dealing with a WB that distributes via CW and CBS, and a Marvel that distributes via ABC. Heroes (NBC) and Powers (PSN) are notable exceptions. But if there's still room for a premium cable network (or really, even something like AMC or F/X) to really take it to the next level.

There's also Marvel's Netflix series, which are quite a bit better than their broadcast fare on ABC.

Koby 02-15-16 02:00 PM

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If you try to watch them all I can see why you might feel this way. It's a lot to try to keep up with on a weekly basis and still have time for other types of shows. A lot of them though imo aren't worth watching, but then everyone has their own opinions on the matter.

Just don't try to watch them all, and cut out those you like less so that you're only watching your favorites and still have time for other stuff and you'll be fine.

Sure it seems like there is a lot of Superhero stuff out there flooding the market, but heck for years we had tons and tons of crime procedures being the 'big' thing; and honestly I'd much rather have Superheros. haha.

mike7162 02-15-16 03:28 PM

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I suspect the Superhero genre will follow the path of the western - a period of unmatched popularity and creative brilliance, followed by cookie cutter entertainments, and a gradual, bland decline into indifference. Then, every few years or so, a film will appear that will "redefine" the comic book film. In the meantime, I'm enjoying the ride!

PhantomStranger 02-16-16 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mike7162 (Post 12724431)
I suspect the Superhero genre will follow the path of the western - a period of unmatched popularity and creative brilliance, followed by cookie cutter entertainments, and a gradual, bland decline into indifference. Then, every few years or so, a film will appear that will "redefine" the comic book film. In the meantime, I'm enjoying the ride!

Probably. Hollywood will keep going to the well until it stops working.

dvd-4-life 02-16-16 04:37 AM

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Hasn't comic book sales gone down? Maybe because of too many superhero tv shows and movies? I though that it would increase in comic book interest.

I know back in the 1960s the Batman tv show increased comic book sales for Batman comics(Batman,Detective) but I don't know of the effect it had in overall comic book sales.

DaveCole 02-16-16 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by dvd-4-life (Post 12724937)
Hasn't comic book sales gone down? Maybe because of too many superhero tv shows and movies? I though that it would increase in comic book interest.

I know back in the 1960s the Batman tv show increased comic book sales for Batman comics(Batman,Detective) but I don't know of the effect it had in overall comic book sales.

Comic sales have been going down for years. Convoluted continuity, constant partial reboots, & the inability to bring in new readers have been the cause. The price doesn't help either. $4-5 for a five minute read cannot compete with $10-13 for a 2 hour movie or $60 for a 20-100 hour video game. If anything, the current shows are introducing the characters to new readers who may pick up a trade or gn.

I am enjoying the shows so far. It is nice for once to have a choice of shows to watch each season rather than the one show coming out that you know will be cancelled before it airs.

Kdogg 02-16-16 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by mike7162 (Post 12724431)
I suspect the Superhero genre will follow the path of the western - a period of unmatched popularity and creative brilliance, followed by cookie cutter entertainments, and a gradual, bland decline into indifference. Then, every few years or so, a film will appear that will "redefine" the comic book film. In the meantime, I'm enjoying the ride!

Maybe but I disagree with you and Mr. Spielberg. Westerns lost popularity when kids who use to play cowboys and Indians grew up and then their kids grew up with something else. With Disney in the picture, little kids growing up will be exposed to superheroes from an early age but might never grow out of them. They start early with the cartoons, move on to PG/PG-13 movies/TV shows and then on to Deadpool/Dare Devil/Jessica Jones as adults. If Warner every got their house in order they could do the same.

I don't thing the volume will be as high in the future but I don't see a decrease in quality in aggregate.

Gunde 02-16-16 07:40 AM

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Absolutely, but not just on TV. I'm tired of Superheroes in general. I was never into them in the first place, but thought the first 3-5 MCH flicks were very good. Then it became too much and I lost interest.

I'm not gonna complain about though. Plenty of other stuff to watch instead :)

d2cheer 02-16-16 07:52 AM

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I just get burned out by people complaining about a show; saying they are giving it up but constantly show up in the thread for said show and stating how proud they are for still not watching it.

Kdogg 02-16-16 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by d2cheer (Post 12724983)
I just get burned out by people complaining about a show; saying they are giving it up but constantly show up in the thread for said show and stating how proud they are for still not watching it.

To be fair that applies to any genre of shows. It runs the gambit from 24 to Supernatural to True Blood to ER. With the expectation of Breaking Bad and The Wire you see that reaction on anything remotely popular eventually.

PhantomStranger 02-16-16 12:33 PM

Re: Superhero Burnout?
 

Originally Posted by dvd-4-life (Post 12724937)
Hasn't comic book sales gone down? Maybe because of too many superhero tv shows and movies? I though that it would increase in comic book interest.

I know back in the 1960s the Batman tv show increased comic book sales for Batman comics(Batman,Detective) but I don't know of the effect it had in overall comic book sales.

Comic book sales have mostly continued in a downward spiral due to the hideous pricing structure that continues to surpass the normal rate of entertainment inflation.

Comic books themselves became a secondary entertainment medium for children when videogames started offering a much more interactive experience requiring less imagination on the part of the user. The characters themselves are as popular as ever, Batman's videogames are still some of the biggest sellers in the video game industry.

Giantrobo 02-16-16 12:58 PM

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I keep hearing people complaining about there being too many Comic Book shows and films. Didn't some big time actor/director claim Hollywood was coming to an end because of this?

PhantomStranger 02-16-16 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantrobo (Post 12725274)
I keep hearing people complaining about there being too many Comic Book shows and films. Didn't some big time actor/director claim Hollywood was coming to an end because of this?

I think it's a common complaint in Hollywood. Remember that much of Hollywood is from continental Europe, a place that has virtually no tradition of superhero comics. It's a genre that is totally alien to them. I think it's a big reason why Hollywood took so long properly understanding superheroes and why it took outsiders like the Marvel people to finally deliver proper superheroes on the screen.

Eric F 02-16-16 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PhantomStranger (Post 12725289)
I think it's a common complaint in Hollywood. Remember that much of Hollywood is from continental Europe, a place that has virtually no tradition of superhero comics. It's a genre that is totally alien to them. I think it's a big reason why Hollywood took so long properly understanding superheroes and why it took outsiders like the Marvel people to finally deliver proper superheroes on the screen.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped.../JLEurope1.jpg

So soon we forget...:lol:

DthRdrX 02-16-16 04:09 PM

Re: Superhero Burnout?
 
Hello no, as long as they are good I'll watch them. That goes for just about any show I find to be entertaining though.

morriscroy 02-16-16 04:25 PM

Re: Superhero Burnout?
 

Originally Posted by Gunde (Post 12724978)
Absolutely, but not just on TV. I'm tired of Superheroes in general. I was never into them in the first place, but thought the first 3-5 MCH flicks were very good. Then it became too much and I lost interest.

I'm not gonna complain about though. Plenty of other stuff to watch instead :)

Similar sentiments here. But I was into superheroes when I was kid/preteen. By the time I was a teenager, I lost interest in superheros and stopped collecting comic books. (I stopped collecting shortly after the Secret Wars II series ended).

Back in the day, I really like the first X-Men movie. (I went to see it several times at the theater). The next few marvel movies were ok at the time. By the time it was the mid-late 2000s, I was getting bored of marvel movies.

Xiroteus 02-16-16 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveCole (Post 12724959)
Comic sales have been going down for years. Convoluted continuity, constant partial reboots, & the inability to bring in new readers have been the cause. The price doesn't help either. $4-5 for a five minute read cannot compete with $10-13 for a 2 hour movie or $60 for a 20-100 hour video game. If anything, the current shows are introducing the characters to new readers who may pick up a trade or gn.

I am enjoying the shows so far. It is nice for once to have a choice of shows to watch each season rather than the one show coming out that you know will be cancelled before it airs.

Even as an adult I had to take a bit of a buying break (there was the library) for many series for awhile because cost vs benifit was much lower than other types of entertainment. And based on how I spent it was closer to like two dollars for movies, and under ten for PC games that could entertain for likely hours a day vs the same money and fifteen minutes or so.

Plus the format of comics does not work for someone that picks one up every so often as they would need a paperback or hardcover for that. If I was a kid today I likely would like comics yet could never justify the price when so many other options are available.


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