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Old 02-16-16, 05:13 PM
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Re: The Walking Dead (S6E09) -- Winter Premiere -- "No Way Out" -- 2/14/16

That was possibly the most entertaining episode of the series so far. Awesome all around. Loved that annoying little kid and his family getting eaten.
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Re: The Walking Dead (S6E09) -- Winter Premiere -- "No Way Out" -- 2/14/16

Originally Posted by dave94
I was thinking that this picked up when they had made some distance from the house. So maybe he was shaky and calling "mom" at the end of last episode, then calmed down for awhile and ultimately freaked out when he saw some of the nastier walkers?
Sam had started in with "mom, mom" just as they had left the house. So they either are saying they got him calmed down for much of the trek, or they just flat out ignored that he had immediately starting panicking. And just in case people had forgot what freaked him out in the first place, they replay Carol's dialogue. So yes, Carol is at fault for the loss of that family and Carl's eye.

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Originally Posted by JZ1276
If anyone watched Talking Dead, the annoying "mom" kid seems like he is the same as his character in real life. "Melissa McBride is suuuuch a joy to work with and we both like to go antiquing".
Here's the clip for anyone that missed it. That kid has "zombie food" written all over him.

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Re: The Walking Dead (S6E09) -- Winter Premiere -- "No Way Out" -- 2/14/16

Who the hell names their kid Major?
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Who the hell names their kid Major?
Mr. and Mrs. Asshole
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Re: The Walking Dead (S6E09) -- Winter Premiere -- "No Way Out" -- 2/14/16

How did it get dark so fast after they left the house though? Were they walking from Alexandria to Baltimore or something?

Nice to see the entire Porch Dick family gone. The show was getting top heavy with characters.

Thought the montage at the end of the fight was great and a defining moment.
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Re: The Walking Dead (S6E09) -- Winter Premiere -- "No Way Out" -- 2/14/16

Originally Posted by PhantomStranger
I was surprised they dumped Blondie and her entire family at once. That felt like the writers changed course very suddenly on the characters. I think anyone with two brain cells had grown tired of the youngest son's fear.
That scene went down in the comics almost exactly the same way, so the characters weren't suddenly written out of the series. It was actually well foreshadowed with Carol's threat to Sam and the antagonism that was set up berween Ron, Rick, and Carl.
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Re: The Walking Dead (S6E09) -- Winter Premiere -- "No Way Out" -- 2/14/16

Dunno why they wouldn't have just put a bag over his head.
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Re: The Walking Dead (S6E09) -- Winter Premiere -- "No Way Out" -- 2/14/16

Originally Posted by A-aron
So, there is a video going around that seems to show a car coming into frame as the bikers went boom. One theory is that Negan saw the events unfold, and could have his sights on the trigger-man.
Here's a video of the mysterious car:



I am inclined to believe it's just a production error. It's way out in the distance and only visible for a few frames. If they wanted to that show someone was watching Daryl blow up the Saviours, then they would have made it more obvious.
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Originally Posted by devilshalo
Dunno why they wouldn't have just put a bag over his head.
We said the same thing. Blindfold him, put cotton in his ears, heck, even carry him and let him bury his head in someone's chest (he's not that big a kid).

To take a kid who's hidden out in his room quaking in fear out in the midst of the herd and not expect him to freak out is incredibly short-sighted for such experienced hands.

It was a big enough leap of faith to trust Gabriel to take care of Judith, but they didn't have a lot of choice there unless they drugged her (as in giving her drugs, not dragging her along with them).
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Rick has become Chick Kryptonite. Arousing his interest is killing off more love interests than Little Joe Cartwright.

As for Negan's gang...

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Re: The Walking Dead (S6E09) -- Winter Premiere -- "No Way Out" -- 2/14/16

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
That's the way I took it. So can we pin their deaths and Carl's eye on Carol? She's the reason he freaked the fuck out causing everyone to stop. He dies. Mom dies. Other son has nothing left to live for and figures "no time like the present" and takes aim at Carl.
Yup, I'd say that's about right. I mean, it was pretty freaky to begin with, but Carol's haunting voice definitely pushed the kid over the edge.

But yeah, best episode, possibly every, of this show. I loved Crazy Rick heading out to take on 2,000 zombies with a hatchet, and everyone else joining in. I know it'll feel like a letdown next week, but this is one I'll actually re-watch.
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Re: The Walking Dead (S6E09) -- Winter Premiere -- "No Way Out" -- 2/14/16

Originally Posted by dave94
I was thinking that this picked up when they had made some distance from the house. So maybe he was shaky and calling "mom" at the end of last episode, then calmed down for awhile and ultimately freaked out when he saw some of the nastier walkers?
I would say you are pretty close to completely accurate with that. I would add the fact that the mom wanted to send him with Father Gabriel, and he said that he could make it through with the group lends further weight to your analysis.
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
That's the way I took it. So can we pin their deaths and Carl's eye on Carol? She's the reason he freaked the fuck out causing everyone to stop. He dies. Mom dies. Other son has nothing left to live for and figures "no time like the present" and takes aim at Carl.
Originally Posted by hdnmickey
Sam had started in with "mom, mom" just as they had left the house. So they either are saying they got him calmed down for much of the trek, or they just flat out ignored that he had immediately starting panicking. And just in case people had forgot what freaked him out in the first place, they replay Carol's dialogue. So yes, Carol is at fault for the loss of that family and Carl's eye.
While I agree that Carol is technically at fault, does anyone else know that? Specifically, do any of the characters know what she said to him?
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Re: The Walking Dead (S6E09) -- Winter Premiere -- "No Way Out" -- 2/14/16

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
Here's a video of the mysterious car:



I am inclined to believe it's just a production error. It's way out in the distance and only visible for a few frames. If they wanted to that show someone was watching Daryl blow up the Saviours, then they would have made it more obvious.
Even with it circled, I have a hard time saying that that shape is actually a car.
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Re: The Walking Dead (S6E09) -- Winter Premiere -- "No Way Out" -- 2/14/16

Originally Posted by jjcool
While I agree that Carol is technically at fault, does anyone else know that? Specifically, do any of the characters know what she said to him?
I doubt it. I was just making the point from the viewer's perspective. After all, the audience seems to have turned on Morgan because every decision he makes results in someone dying.
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
I doubt it. I was just making the point from the viewer's perspective. After all, the audience seems to have turned on Morgan because every decision he makes results in someone dying.
Without a doubt, in the viewers perspective, Carol could be labeled at fault for Carl. Given the overall feeling for Carl by the viewers, I dont know that people are really going to care. As for Morgan, that is a slightly different situation. I agree that the viewers have turned on him, but there are also characters on the show that know what he is doing and has done, and are starting to turn on him. Most notably Carol, who even said that she should have killed him.
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Re: The Walking Dead (S6E09) -- Winter Premiere -- "No Way Out" -- 2/14/16

No, nobody else knows what Carol said to Sam. One has to wonder if Carol will feel guilt over it, and come clean to Rick (or everybody) or just pretend it never happened. She has come clean before.
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Re: The Walking Dead (S6E09) -- Winter Premiere -- "No Way Out" -- 2/14/16

Originally Posted by jjcool
Even with it circled, I have a hard time saying that that shape is actually a car.
Nope, just moves like one and is large enough. But it's shape is odd, perhaps a production crane?
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Re: The Walking Dead (S6E09) -- Winter Premiere -- "No Way Out" -- 2/14/16

Originally Posted by hdnmickey
No, nobody else knows what Carol said to Sam. One has to wonder if Carol will feel guilt over it, and come clean to Rick (or everybody) or just pretend it never happened. She has come clean before.
But why would Carol think her scaring Sam had anything to do with what happened? Most of the town (outside of Rick's gang) are very scared to one degree or another. A little kid being scared/panicking while walking through hundreds of walkers shouldn't make Carol think it's her fault. The only way that would happen is if she knew exactly what Sam was thinking at the time - which she doesn't.

If there's any guilty conscience after that episode, it might be Michone for not chopping off the kids arm instead... or for killing the kid altogether (I'm assuming it's the first time she's killed a kid?).
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Re: The Walking Dead (S6E09) -- Winter Premiere -- "No Way Out" -- 2/14/16

Goodbye, annoying kid!

The opening scene was hilarious. I thought the lead biker was a poorly cast Negan so that surprised me, but I guess he wasn't.

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Re: The Walking Dead (S6E09) -- Winter Premiere -- "No Way Out" -- 2/14/16

Originally Posted by Coral
But why would Carol think her scaring Sam had anything to do with what happened? Most of the town (outside of Rick's gang) are very scared to one degree or another. A little kid being scared/panicking while walking through hundreds of walkers shouldn't make Carol think it's her fault. The only way that would happen is if she knew exactly what Sam was thinking at the time - which she doesn't.
For me it all comes down to mow much discussion they show about what all went down after the fact. If there is very little, to nothing, discussed then yeah... even Carol could possibly be oblivious to how she was the cause of what happened.
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Re: The Walking Dead (S6E09) -- Winter Premiere -- "No Way Out" -- 2/14/16

Originally Posted by jjcool
Even with it circled, I have a hard time saying that that shape is actually a car.
Knowing Scott Gimple, he'll probably see this and write it into the plot for later on. But you're right it's probably either (a) not a car at all or (b) just something the filmmakers missed. It's WAY off in the distance.


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