Gotham (S2E11) -- Fall Finale - "Rise of the Villains: Worse Than A Crime" - 11/30/15
11-30-15, 01:42 PM
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Gotham (S2E11) -- Fall Finale - "Rise of the Villains: Worse Than A Crime" - 11/30/15
When Bruce Wayne is kidnapped, Gordon must look to some unlikely and dangerous allies for help. It is a battle of the villains, and not everyone makes it out alive in the all-new "Rise of the Villains: "Worse Than A Crime" fall finale episode of GOTHAM airing Monday, Nov. 30 (8:00-9:01 PM ET/PT) on FOX. (GTH-211) (TV-14 L, V)
Cast: Ben McKenzie as Detective James Gordon, Donal Logue as Harvey Bullock, Morena Baccarin as Leslie Thompkins, Michael Chiklis as Detective Nathaniel Barnes, Sean Pertwee as Alfred, Robin Lord Taylor as Oswald Cobblepot/The Penguin, Erin Richards as Barbara Kean, David Mazouz as Bruce Wayne, Camren Bicondova as Selina Kyle/the future Catwoman, Cory Michael Smith as Edward Nygma/the future Riddler, James Frain as Theo Galavan, Jessica Lucas as Tabitha Galavan, Chris Chalk as Lucius Fox, Nicholas D'Agosto as Harvey Dent, Drew Powell as Butch Gilzean
Guest Cast: Nathan Darrow as Victor Fries/Mr. Freeze, Natalie Alyn Lind as Silver St. Cloud, Ron Rifkin as Father Creel
Cast: Ben McKenzie as Detective James Gordon, Donal Logue as Harvey Bullock, Morena Baccarin as Leslie Thompkins, Michael Chiklis as Detective Nathaniel Barnes, Sean Pertwee as Alfred, Robin Lord Taylor as Oswald Cobblepot/The Penguin, Erin Richards as Barbara Kean, David Mazouz as Bruce Wayne, Camren Bicondova as Selina Kyle/the future Catwoman, Cory Michael Smith as Edward Nygma/the future Riddler, James Frain as Theo Galavan, Jessica Lucas as Tabitha Galavan, Chris Chalk as Lucius Fox, Nicholas D'Agosto as Harvey Dent, Drew Powell as Butch Gilzean
Guest Cast: Nathan Darrow as Victor Fries/Mr. Freeze, Natalie Alyn Lind as Silver St. Cloud, Ron Rifkin as Father Creel
Episode 11 of 22
Season resumes February 29th. The X-Files will take over this timeslot starting in January.
11-30-15, 08:29 PM
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Re: Gotham (S2E11) -- Fall Finale - "Rise of the Villains: Worse Than A Crime" - 11/3
Pretty good stuff.
Also a new BvS teaser.
Oh one more ting. Surprise villain appearance at the end.
Also a new BvS teaser.
Oh one more ting. Surprise villain appearance at the end.
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11-30-15, 08:38 PM
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Re: Gotham (S2E11) -- Fall Finale - "Rise of the Villains: Worse Than A Crime" - 11/3
Remind me never to ask Penguin if I can hold his umbrella. 
See you in February Gotham... might want to bring a sweater, it'll be a bit chilly.
See you in February Gotham... might want to bring a sweater, it'll be a bit chilly.
11-30-15, 11:38 PM
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Re: Gotham (S2E11) -- Fall Finale - "Rise of the Villains: Worse Than A Crime" - 11/3
Mind-reading dolphins?! That is either the greatest, most oblique reference to Lobo possible or the writers are on drugs.
I was jazzed to see Mr. Freeze at the end.
I was jazzed to see Mr. Freeze at the end.
12-01-15, 12:56 AM
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Re: Gotham (S2E11) -- Fall Finale - "Rise of the Villains: Worse Than A Crime" - 11/3
Fantastic mid-season finale. Way better than the Season 1 finale. Looking forward to the second half of the year.
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12-01-15, 07:41 AM
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Re: Gotham (S2E11) -- Fall Finale - "Rise of the Villains: Worse Than A Crime" - 11/3
this was a great episode... its a shame not alot of people are seeing it
12-01-15, 11:48 PM
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Re: Gotham (S2E11) -- Fall Finale - "Rise of the Villains: Worse Than A Crime" - 11/3
Holy shit. Jim Gordon is a cold blooded murderer. WTF is going on?
12-02-15, 12:31 AM
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Re: Gotham (S2E11) -- Fall Finale - "Rise of the Villains: Worse Than A Crime" - 11/3
This show has got to be one of the most-improved from a first to a second season. While I really enjoyed the show during the first season, it never quite rose to the level of must-see for me. But that's completely changed with this second season and I've loved where they've gone with the show.
It was a very satisfying mid-season finale and loved the team-ups. I'm not sure how I feel about Gordon more-or-less executing a prisoner in cold blood, but it was a satisfying moment knowing all the evil he brought upon Gotham. I'm interested to see the fall-out Gordon will face on the police force as a result of this decision.
Loved the tease of Mr. Freeze at the end.
It was a very satisfying mid-season finale and loved the team-ups. I'm not sure how I feel about Gordon more-or-less executing a prisoner in cold blood, but it was a satisfying moment knowing all the evil he brought upon Gotham. I'm interested to see the fall-out Gordon will face on the police force as a result of this decision.
Loved the tease of Mr. Freeze at the end.
And people ARE noticing. Gotham's ratings have solidified and are actually improving.
I do miss Jerome though.
12-02-15, 11:24 AM
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Re: Gotham (S2E11) -- Fall Finale - "Rise of the Villains: Worse Than A Crime" - 11/3
Wasn't Victor Freize one of those villains who came to be later on? Odd to see him existing for like 15+ years before Bruce becomes Batman.
12-02-15, 12:41 PM
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Re: Gotham (S2E11) -- Fall Finale - "Rise of the Villains: Worse Than A Crime" - 11/3
He only became Mr. Freeze in most comic continuities after Batman was already a crimefighter.
It doesn't really bother me that much since I can compartmentalize Gotham as its own thing. I view it as an alternative prequel that doesn't really affect anything.
Readers would be freaking out left and right if Jim Gordon was going around offing criminals in the comics.
It doesn't really bother me that much since I can compartmentalize Gotham as its own thing. I view it as an alternative prequel that doesn't really affect anything.
Readers would be freaking out left and right if Jim Gordon was going around offing criminals in the comics.
12-02-15, 01:00 PM
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Thought this episode was awful but then again I haven't been a fan. I;m done with the show.
12-02-15, 07:57 PM
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Re: Gotham (S2E11) -- Fall Finale - "Rise of the Villains: Worse Than A Crime" - 11/3
Best mid-season finale I have seen this season.
Although you definitely have think of the characters as the same in name only, it's been pretty awesome to see how they have changed it all up but still give resemblance to what people think they know.
If they didn't go there you wouldn't expect to Gordon working with those guys and actually doing what makes sense in getting rid of people like Theo. Makes you wonder just how far they would go in changing things up. Killing off people everybody thinks make it till when Bruce becomes Batman? Having Penguin and others actually fight crime for a while before turning back to crime?
Anybody else catch the others they showed quickly when bringing Theo into that room. Seemed like they quickly showed Fish and possibly one other we may have been expected to recognize. And what could be the point of wanting 3/4 of Theo's head and part of his body?
Although you definitely have think of the characters as the same in name only, it's been pretty awesome to see how they have changed it all up but still give resemblance to what people think they know.
If they didn't go there you wouldn't expect to Gordon working with those guys and actually doing what makes sense in getting rid of people like Theo. Makes you wonder just how far they would go in changing things up. Killing off people everybody thinks make it till when Bruce becomes Batman? Having Penguin and others actually fight crime for a while before turning back to crime?
Anybody else catch the others they showed quickly when bringing Theo into that room. Seemed like they quickly showed Fish and possibly one other we may have been expected to recognize. And what could be the point of wanting 3/4 of Theo's head and part of his body?
12-02-15, 08:51 PM
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Re: Gotham (S2E11) -- Fall Finale - "Rise of the Villains: Worse Than A Crime" - 11/3
Really good ep. Loved how they found a tangible way to work every major character from the series into the story. Curious where they'll go from here, aside from the obvious direction with Mr. Freeze.
What's taking Gotham's place during the winter hiatus? I'm actually kind of fond of the way they do TV series now, with a batch of new episodes for Fall and Spring, as opposed to doing repeats.
What's taking Gotham's place during the winter hiatus? I'm actually kind of fond of the way they do TV series now, with a batch of new episodes for Fall and Spring, as opposed to doing repeats.
12-02-15, 08:58 PM
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Re: Gotham (S2E11) -- Fall Finale - "Rise of the Villains: Worse Than A Crime" - 11/3
Really good ep. Loved how they found a tangible way to work every major character from the series into the story. Curious where they'll go from here, aside from the obvious direction with Mr. Freeze.
What's taking Gotham's place during the winter hiatus? I'm actually kind of fond of the way they do TV series now, with a batch of new episodes for Fall and Spring, as opposed to doing repeats.
What's taking Gotham's place during the winter hiatus? I'm actually kind of fond of the way they do TV series now, with a batch of new episodes for Fall and Spring, as opposed to doing repeats.
12-03-15, 12:20 AM
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Re: Gotham (S2E11) -- Fall Finale - "Rise of the Villains: Worse Than A Crime" - 11/3
At the risk of being a perv (too late!), the girl who plays Silver is... wow. 
And just 15.
And just 15.
12-03-15, 07:54 AM
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12-03-15, 05:30 PM
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