Marvel's Jessica Jones (Netflix) - Season 1 Discussion Thread - 11/20/15
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Whatever the film side is fucking up on scripting their villains, they need to fix by talking to the Netflix guys. Cuz Fisk and Kilgrave are immediately great characters. And it's not just the actors playing them. Which is what the Loki character has... cuz it ain't the scripts that make Loki great.
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I'm 7 episodes in and enjoying it quite a bit, but i'll be the odd man out and say that I liked Daredevil more. At least at this point in the show - I know Daredevil took it's time developing characters, so i'm looking forward to more of that here. Hoping to finish before the Thanksgiving break when I go out of town.
I don't know what Agents of Shield has to do with anything, but hey that show is really good too! Yay!
I don't know what Agents of Shield has to do with anything, but hey that show is really good too! Yay!
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Thing is though villains on a show done right usually are (and should be) great because they have more time to be built up over the course of multiple episodes/seasons. If the villains in the MCU carried over more I think they'd be more impactful. The problem is that in the films most of them have felt like they're only present to give the heroes their purpose for the current film and a lot of them don't make it past whatever film they're present for.
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I think the problem with the film's villains that unlike the heroes, they don't have the time to flesh them out and so they come off very 2 dimensional. This show has how many episodes to slowly show that these bad guys are a major threat and that there's more angles to them. Which does make it more compelling than whatever the films are throwing at us as an option for the heroes to just punch.
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I made I through 7 episodes over the weekend. Maybe I can space the next 6 out through next weekend.
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Finished it right now. Overall. I think this one has a much more steady line quality. DD was a great show but sometimes it dipped a bit. JJ is pretty steady throughout. Was glad to see how Jones ended it. DD is still the better show. I just prefer it more as well. It had an insanely varied and diverse cast. JJ was a bit smaller. I liked that it was a mostly female dominated supporting cast. I really enjoyed Patsy Walker. The Jewel moment and such. I think for what the show lacked in properly moderating what Jones, or even Cage, could do or withstand... the show fully developed them to be real people. They felt real in this world. That's my issue w/ the WB DC stuff and AoS. They don't feel like a fully realized world. Netflix Marvel is rocking it w/ their creativity.
I prefer DD over JJ. Still a solid show though. Really wondering wtf they do w/ Cage.
Really excited for DD S2. Frank Castle and Elektra. Shit is going to get wild here. I hope The Hand really shows up.
I prefer DD over JJ. Still a solid show though. Really wondering wtf they do w/ Cage.
Really excited for DD S2. Frank Castle and Elektra. Shit is going to get wild here. I hope The Hand really shows up.
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Just finished the series and I loved it. Great casting choices all around. Guy who played Kilgrave nailed it.
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I finished it this afternoon. I think it was better than Daredevil, which I really liked. Ritter just had a good combination of being vulnerable and being able to destroy you at any time. Tennant was exactly what I expected, great as usual. Disney Marvel needs to take some notes how to develop villains without turning them into cardboard plot devices. I thought Cage was a nice addition, but he could have been left out and the show still would have been just as good.
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I kinda wish they had some more connectivity other than the night nurse. Then again, I'm conflicted and think that's just wishful thinking and it worked out well with how it was in the same burrow but took place on its own.
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Finished it tonight. I still think Daredevil was better, largely because of the strength of Fisk in that show over Kilgrave here - whom I actually didn't care that much for as a character despite the craziness of his actions. As creepy and haunting as Kilgrave's powers were at their worst, his motivations just didn't have the depth that Fisk did in Daredevil. Some spoilers -
It was still really fun and entertaining, and I like where Jessica ends up at the end of the show. I could have done without a lot of the side characters, who it felt get a lot of screen time but just don't end up that interesting to me outside of Luke and the initial development of Malcom.
It's interesting, as focused and lean both Daredevil and Jessica Jones have been as far as putting together a tight 13 episode series and story, with Jones I almost would be ok with just seeing filler episodes and watching her take on random PI cases. I think that goes to the strength of Ritter in the role more then anything.
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It was still really fun and entertaining, and I like where Jessica ends up at the end of the show. I could have done without a lot of the side characters, who it felt get a lot of screen time but just don't end up that interesting to me outside of Luke and the initial development of Malcom.
It's interesting, as focused and lean both Daredevil and Jessica Jones have been as far as putting together a tight 13 episode series and story, with Jones I almost would be ok with just seeing filler episodes and watching her take on random PI cases. I think that goes to the strength of Ritter in the role more then anything.
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I'm only about half way through but I'm enjoying this a lot more than Daredevil which just felt like a lot of filler for the most part.
The one thing I can't shake though is this feels like a live action adaptation of those old Sierra adventure games, ie: Gabriel Knight, Laura Bow. But considering those games are a huge soft spot for me, it doesn't surprise me that I'm pretty taken with the show.
Edit: Didn't realize this is from the same lady that did the adaptation of Dexter for seasons 1 - 4. That's the other show this one reminded me of.
The one thing I can't shake though is this feels like a live action adaptation of those old Sierra adventure games, ie: Gabriel Knight, Laura Bow. But considering those games are a huge soft spot for me, it doesn't surprise me that I'm pretty taken with the show.
Edit: Didn't realize this is from the same lady that did the adaptation of Dexter for seasons 1 - 4. That's the other show this one reminded me of.
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Did they ever say who the "special" person Rosario Dawson's character knew?
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I would like to see that in the DD series. Just to get our Born Again.
The moment the pills came up, I geeked out. Loved his little lighter too. Nice nods to the comics.
The moment the pills came up, I geeked out. Loved his little lighter too. Nice nods to the comics.
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Finished it this morning. I still like Daredevil a bit better because of Fisk, but man, was Tennant great as Killgrave.
I thought Simpson was over the top and didn't like any scene he was in... came off too Soap-Opera-ish for me compared to the rest of the cast.
For me DD was an A- and JJ was a B+... but still fantastic television(?) all the way around!
... now I can start Man in the High Castle.
I thought Simpson was over the top and didn't like any scene he was in... came off too Soap-Opera-ish for me compared to the rest of the cast.
For me DD was an A- and JJ was a B+... but still fantastic television(?) all the way around!
... now I can start Man in the High Castle.
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I'm at the same point and had the same opinion. I'll probably stay out of this thread, now, until I'm done.
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Finished the series yesterday. Loved the whole thing. There is one question that I think I missed the answer to...
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This is the problem with Netflix shows -- you never know what you can and can't spoil. So, erring on the side of caution...
This has now become my favourite "superhero" show. Actually I think that with the exception of Daredevil all other superhero shows (like the Flash, Green Arrow, and Supergirl) suck mightily. But that's a whole 'nuther post. I love that Jessica isn't invulnerable and that she is flawed both in her powers and her mind. I loved Trish, best sidekick ever and most excellently portayed by Rachel Taylor. I loved Kilgrave -- David Tenant is fucking awesome -- best villain ever; I especially loved how they very intelligently and very believably wrote his character's ability to cater for all contingencies. I loved how everyone on this show reacts the way you expect people to react; very often writers take shortcuts and make characters behave stupidly in order to move the story along but they never did this on this show. And most of all I loved Krysten Ritter. I only knew her from ditsy roles in Gilmore Girls and Veronica Mars and that short-lived sitcom from a few years ago so I was enormously, and very pleasantly, surprised at how masterfully she pulled off this role.
Bring on season 2!
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This has now become my favourite "superhero" show. Actually I think that with the exception of Daredevil all other superhero shows (like the Flash, Green Arrow, and Supergirl) suck mightily. But that's a whole 'nuther post. I love that Jessica isn't invulnerable and that she is flawed both in her powers and her mind. I loved Trish, best sidekick ever and most excellently portayed by Rachel Taylor. I loved Kilgrave -- David Tenant is fucking awesome -- best villain ever; I especially loved how they very intelligently and very believably wrote his character's ability to cater for all contingencies. I loved how everyone on this show reacts the way you expect people to react; very often writers take shortcuts and make characters behave stupidly in order to move the story along but they never did this on this show. And most of all I loved Krysten Ritter. I only knew her from ditsy roles in Gilmore Girls and Veronica Mars and that short-lived sitcom from a few years ago so I was enormously, and very pleasantly, surprised at how masterfully she pulled off this role.
Bring on season 2!
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