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Old 10-08-15 | 02:19 AM
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Heroes: Reborn (S5E04) -- "The Needs of the Many" -- 10/8/15




Noah searches for someone from his past and breaks into Renautas for answers. Also: Miko continues her rescue mission; Tommy tries to save a life; Luke faces obstacles in his relationship with his wife; and Carlos makes progress in his heroic odyssey.

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Old 10-09-15 | 11:04 AM
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People must not be watching this here. I watched the last 2 episodes last night. This show is ok - some of the storylines are definitely more interesting than others. Like the kid and his mom. The guy with the crazy wife might get more interesting now that he has powers.

Still don't know what the deal is with Arctic chick.
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Molly in that dress was the eye candy that I needed for this boring mess of a show and now that she's offed herself I ask myself, what's the point any more?
Old 10-10-15 | 02:35 AM
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Why bring Molly back, only to have her off herself by episode 4?

This episode actually felt the most coherent of the first four episodes and flowed better than the others. I'll likely give it another episode or two to hook me.
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the M.O. this time around is bring back old favorites and just kill them off.
Old 10-10-15 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Jadzia
People must not be watching this here.
A few of us are. Maybe hate-watching would be more accurate. I just don't really feel the need to point out how dumb this show is and how bad the writing and characterization are in every thread.

I mean, it's just nonstop. Bennet corners the CEO's daughter, who has been capturing people for awhile, apparently, and gives her a 30-second impassioned plea to think about what she's doing. So I guess she got into the abduction business without doing that or asking her mom any questions? And that is enough to flip her. Good plotting, Kring.

Or just the utter incompetence of the scene with the killers in the car. They already have incredibly shallow and unbelievable justification for their long-running killing spree. So she pulls a gun on him and then leaves, saying "I really did love you," which is both cliched and irrelevant, because the audience doesn't give one shit about their relationship because there's been nothing to earn that investment.

In fact that entire scene read like fan fiction more than a show airing in prime time on a national network.

The only and I mean only likable character in this show is the teleporting kid. He was first shown as picked on, having an unrequited crush on a deserving person who would happier with him than her creep boyfriend, and living in fear of being found out--all sympathetic. Then we see that she's smart and funny and likes him back, which reflects back on him and make him even more likable.

Try to come up with any other character in the show that is written as sympathetically (read: competently). You can't.
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Originally Posted by Breakfast with Girls
A few of us are. Maybe hate-watching would be more accurate. I just don't really feel the need to point out how dumb this show is and how bad the writing and characterization are in every thread.

I mean, it's just nonstop. Bennet corners the CEO's daughter, who has been capturing people for awhile, apparently, and gives her a 30-second impassioned plea to think about what she's doing. So I guess she got into the abduction business without doing that or asking her mom any questions? And that is enough to flip her. Good plotting, Kring.

Or just the utter incompetence of the scene with the killers in the car. They already have incredibly shallow and unbelievable justification for their long-running killing spree. So she pulls a gun on him and then leaves, saying "I really did love you," which is both cliched and irrelevant, because the audience doesn't give one shit about their relationship because there's been nothing to earn that investment.

In fact that entire scene read like fan fiction more than a show airing in prime time on a national network.

The only and I mean only likable character in this show is the teleporting kid. He was first shown as picked on, having an unrequited crush on a deserving person who would happier with him than her creep boyfriend, and living in fear of being found out--all sympathetic. Then we see that she's smart and funny and likes him back, which reflects back on him and make him even more likable.

Try to come up with any other character in the show that is written as sympathetically (read: competently). You can't.
This summarizes perfectly my feelings for this show. And yes, I'm also hate-watching. This show is ridiculously bad, just hanging onto what made Season 1 of Heroes great and then going full force to what made the rest of the series simply horrible. Almost every character in this series is a rip-off or stereotype of other characters from Marvel, DC, Image, etc. By the way, Tim Kring and NBC have major balls using a character named The Shadow, finishing the 4th episode by obviously mentioning the word Inhumans and basically stealing what is one of the major plots from the Image series Chew with the symbols in the sky.

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I wish this show is sued out of its misery by all the companies they rip off


The couple killing the "evos" and Katanna Girl are just the most idiotic thing in the show. Of course, the couple's idea of killing evos is just a badly done rip off of Stryker in the X-Men movies and books, while Katana Girl CGI is at ridiculous as it sounds. Why should we care about any of these characters when the only thing we see every show is just barely a glimpse of each one of them. The only barely tolerable on is Tommy, who has the rip off Peter Parker thing going on, but at least the actor is charming enough for us to care a little.
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I wondered if someone would get my insinuation about Peter Parker. Big difference is that Peter Parker is witty. But no one in Heroes Reborn is witty because everyone is super cereal, guys (except Katana Girl's boyfriend, who is just kind of a doofus).

While I'm ranting, Bennet's bearded friend is evidently supposed to be the relatable audience proxy and backstory exposition foil, which, since he's a hapless Internet nerd, of course he is (otherwise, why the hell does he exist?). But why does the audience need this? There's so much assumed knowledge in the show; would the show really be that different if he didn't exist at all? We didn't need it in the first season when Bennet was bagging and tagging. Hiro (and to a lesser extent, Peter) was the audience proxy / wish fulfillment vehicle then. Bearded guy is a useless character, not even existing solely to (incompetently) move the plot along, like Molly Walker and most characters on the show. There's a glut of useless characters this season.

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Old 10-11-15 | 11:39 AM
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Re: Heroes: Reborn (S5E04) -- "The Needs of the Many" -- 10/8/15

Originally Posted by Breakfast with Girls
A few of us are. Maybe hate-watching would be more accurate. I just don't really feel the need to point out how dumb this show is and how bad the writing and characterization are in every thread.

I mean, it's just nonstop. Bennet corners the CEO's daughter, who has been capturing people for awhile, apparently, and gives her a 30-second impassioned plea to think about what she's doing. So I guess she got into the abduction business without doing that or asking her mom any questions? And that is enough to flip her. Good plotting, Kring.

Or just the utter incompetence of the scene with the killers in the car. They already have incredibly shallow and unbelievable justification for their long-running killing spree. So she pulls a gun on him and then leaves, saying "I really did love you," which is both cliched and irrelevant, because the audience doesn't give one shit about their relationship because there's been nothing to earn that investment.

In fact that entire scene read like fan fiction more than a show airing in prime time on a national network.

The only and I mean only likable character in this show is the teleporting kid. He was first shown as picked on, having an unrequited crush on a deserving person who would happier with him than her creep boyfriend, and living in fear of being found out--all sympathetic. Then we see that she's smart and funny and likes him back, which reflects back on him and make him even more likable.

Try to come up with any other character in the show that is written as sympathetically (read: competently). You can't.
Couldnt agree more.
Old 10-13-15 | 04:41 PM
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Re: Heroes: Reborn (S5E04) -- "The Needs of the Many" -- 10/8/15

HRG has probably the least appealing storyline which is surprising since he was one of the best characters.

It would have been better if they just brought back the original cast instead of these Disney Channel cast offs.

I zone out during the Hispanic Hero with the mask storyline.
Old 10-13-15 | 11:59 PM
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His story feels like the ultimate generic Hispanic superhero origin. I think they wanted someone in costume this go-around and Katana Girl wasn't enough.

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