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Enjoyable. Expecting better from the next episode.

Does this mean that Flash won't be in any of the movies?

Re: The Flash (S1E01) -- Series Premiere -- "Pilot" -- 10/7/14
 

Loved it! Especially after all the superhero shows being about tortured heroes, it's nice to have one where the guy 1) immediately takes on his new identity and 2) actually enjoys being a superhero!

Re: The Flash (S1E01) -- Series Premiere -- "Pilot" -- 10/7/14
 

I didn't particularly like it.

I'll give it a few weeks, but after wasting ten years on Smallville, waiting for the 3 or 4 good episodes a year, I have a short leash on superhero shows.

The biggest problem for me was that, as is so often the case with TV shows or movies these days, it wasn't a story...it was a series of MOMENTS with no real fluid plot. This will happen...and then this will happen...and then this. Everything happened because we were told it happened. Characters did what they were supposed to in order to create false drama and bigger moments. And the blatant, emotional manipulation of the father and son reunion at the end was totally unearned and obvious. I don't give a damn if Barry has a relationship with his father because we barely got to know him as a character, and didn't get to know the father at all. "I'm proud to be your son." Boo hoo, we don't care because the characters are still one dimensional. Earn that moment.

I will say that I really like Tom Cavanagh as an actor, so his involvement helps.

Re: The Flash (S1E01) -- Series Premiere -- "Pilot" -- 10/7/14
 

From what I've read, The Flash in the movies will be played by another actor and have his own movie or a possible Green Lantern/The Flash movie. Nothing official has been announced, though.

Re: The Flash (S1E01) -- Series Premiere -- "Pilot" -- 10/7/14
 

I enjoyed it. Funny...the worst scene for me was the exchange with Arrow. It came off really cheesy with poorly written dialogue. The cast was extremely likable to me. Except for Iris. Maybe she'll grow on me.

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I kind of feel the same way. The particle cloud thing sounds like it's going to enable this show to do endless "freak of the week" episodes that so many fans of Smallville got sick of over the years. I could live with that if I enjoyed the actors on the show, but none of them really grabbed me as anything special -- especially Grant Gustin. I'll give it a couple more weeks before I decide if I'm going to bail.

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I agree. The exchange with Arrow was the weakest in the pilot and seemed like it was filmed at an entire different time and place just to satisfy the crossover. Plus, Oliver seemed surprisingly happy for a guy who's usually brooding.

Re: The Flash (S1E01) -- Series Premiere -- "Pilot" -- 10/7/14
 

Thought it was decent - definitely a HUGE Smallville vibe, especially since so much of Clark's powers revolved around super-speed. Hope they get away from "freak-of-the-week" soon.

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enjoyed it. I think Iris is the weakest link in the show. Oddly, 2 of the best actors on the show, Martin and Cavanaugh, both seemed to be the worst acted parts.

I am fine with the "freak of the week" for this show. I don't see it having the same kind season long arcs that Arrow can have. That show can draw on Queen's past when he was missing to draw from. This just has Barry's mother's murder.

Re: The Flash (S1E01) -- Series Premiere -- "Pilot" -- 10/7/14
 

4.5m viewers and 1.8 in 18-49

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I hope they don't turn that Cisco character into Vibe. Hated him in the JLA comic and I don't want to see a live version. One of the lamest heroes ever created.

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+1

Barry is in a coma for 9 months, yet he is shaved and his hair perfectly styled. WTH.

Re: The Flash (S1E01) -- Series Premiere -- "Pilot" -- 10/7/14
 

Wow. That was fantastic. I kept telling my girlfriend that whoever wrote this script sure knows how to keep the comic nerds happy. And in that vein, I got goosebumps at the end when he's running around and says "My name is Barry Allen, and I'm the fastest man alive."

And how about that ending!?

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Also, I never followed DC much but "Reverse Flash" is without question the worst comic book character name I've ever heard.

Re: The Flash (S1E01) -- Series Premiere -- "Pilot" -- 10/7/14
 

Which beat out SHIELD (4.39m w/ 1.6)

Re: The Flash (S1E01) -- Series Premiere -- "Pilot" -- 10/7/14
 

for CW, that seems like ahome run

Re: The Flash (S1E01) -- Series Premiere -- "Pilot" -- 10/7/14
 

I enjoyed the premiere of The Flash last night (first time I've ever watched a primetime program on the CW), and I like that, at least so far, it isn't as dark, brooding and glum as other superhero shows.

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I didn't like Smallville because Kent never turned into Superman until the end. They made Allen in Flash into the first episode, so that's out of the way now.

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Thanks. Sounds promising at least. Supes/Batman/Flash/WW is a great dynamic, was hoping there was the potential for it at least.

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The Flash will be a featured hero in the Justice League movie, though he will be played by a different actor and that Flash will have his own continuity.
I was really happy they moved away from the brooding, moody hero archetype. It wouldn't have fit the Flash at all.
It was just a moment to show that Barry always believed his father was innocent. Expect to see a lot of time travel on this show going forward.;)

As for your complaint about the pilot being a series of moments, I would concur. I'm fairly sure they shot more scenes for this pilot that ended up on the cutting room floor. I have a feeling they might have originally intended this pilot to be a two-hour premiere, or at least fill a 90-minute slot.
They had to introduce the idea of superpowered meta-humans into Arrow's grounded universe. I would not worry, many of Flash's villains are mere humans with technological gadgets.
It was a little funny to see Oliver switch from his normal voice to his Batman voice in mid conversation. He also pulled a Spider-Man exit, which he has never done on his own show.
Renowned comic book writer Geoff Johns helped write this episode. One of his favorite characters is Vibe.

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http://www.tvmediainsights.com/the-f...re-in-6-years/

CBS, as expected, dominated the Tuesday household overnights with its line-up of “NCIS” (11.1 rating/18 share – #1 for the evening), week three of compatible “NCIS: New Orleans” (#1: 9.8/15) and “Person of Interest” (#1: 6.4/11). And a two-hour clips edition of “The Voice” (#2: 6.1/ 9 from 8-10 p.m.) leading into reliable “Chicago Fire” (#2: 5.4/ 9 at 10 p.m.) should be enough for NBC to compete in the key demos. “Chicago Fire,” which built year-to-year by eight percent, will have no trouble winning the time period in adults 18-49. But worthy of accolades was the series-premiere of The CW’s highly anticipated “The Flash.”

“The Flash” finished third in the 8 p.m. hour with a 3.4/ 5, which was The CW’s highest-rated premiere in the overnights since “90210” on Sept. 2, 2008 (translation: six years). Comparably, episode one of “The Flash” bested “The Originals” on the year-ago evening (1.3/ 2 on 10/08/13) by 166 percent. It beat the first hour of special “The iHeartradio Music Festival” last Tuesday (0.7/ 1) by a mammoth 386 percent. And “The Flash” outdelivered the debut of parent series “Arrow” (3.0/ 5 on 10/12/12) by 13 percent. And also very promising was the growth of one-tenth of a rating point (or three percent) at 8:30 p.m. (3.3/ 5 to 3.4/ 5). Given the available platform, “The Flash” is off to a fast – and “winning” – start on The CW, which is also expected to resonate via the DVR and in social media.

Lifted by the solid sampling for “The Flash,” season 10 of lead-out “Supernatural” opened at a 1.9/ 5 at 9 p.m., which was 27 percent above the 1.5/ 2 (out of “The Originals”) on the year-ago evening.

Given the lack of lead-in support, relocated “Marvel’s Agents of SHIELD” dipped to a series-low 3.0/ 5 in the household overnights from 9-10 p.m., which was six percent below the 3.2/ 5 one week earlier and 43 percent below the aforementioned 5.3/ 9 on the year-ago evening.

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So, I guess I'll assume Cisco will eventually become Vibe. I hope his costume doesn't look stupid.

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...Nation_001.png

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Flash was adjusted up in the final numbers to a 1.9.

That is unheard of for a CW show these days. I'm sure there are still millions of Nielsen folks who haven't watched it and it's still sitting on their DVRs. Imagine the live + 3 numbers in a few days.

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They basically adressed that woth the abs comment.


It's self aware about being on the cw.

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:up: Between that and most of the action taking place in daylight, this is a huge departure from the other comic shows. That was one thing you couldn't complain about in Smallville, the show being dark.

Yeah I had this problem watching as well. Kind had a 'been there, done that' vibe since Clark was basically the Flash since he couldn't fly. All the action scenes were very reminiscent of Smallville.