Gotham (S1E1) - Series Premiere - "Pilot" - 9/22/2014
#51
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Re: Gotham (S1E1) - Series Premiere - "Pilot" - 9/22/2014
Loved the show, one of the best premiers I have ever watched.
Who says Catwoman could not have seen the Wayne's murders, I never remember the comics showing who was in the shadows up high.
This could have been a movie in the theater, which a few changes.
Who says Catwoman could not have seen the Wayne's murders, I never remember the comics showing who was in the shadows up high.
This could have been a movie in the theater, which a few changes.
#52
Re: Gotham (S1E1) - Series Premiere - "Pilot" - 9/22/2014
One character on this show was created for the Animated series and has it appeared on screen otherwise, I think.
#53
Re: Gotham (S1E1) - Series Premiere - "Pilot" - 9/22/2014
I thought this one was a little dull, story-wise. I'll check it out next week, but I was disappointed with the pilot. Other than the backstory (future story that is) the plot seemed like a standard crime procedural. I am not a huge superhero fangirl though so I think I am just looking at it from the plot.
#54
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Re: Gotham (S1E1) - Series Premiere - "Pilot" - 9/22/2014
Is everyone forgetting what Tim Burton did to Batman's origin 25 years ago? I'd say his change was far bigger than what they did here.
This is about the only new show I've been looking forward to this season. Most everything else looks like crap. So far, so good.
This is about the only new show I've been looking forward to this season. Most everything else looks like crap. So far, so good.
#55
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Re: Gotham (S1E1) - Series Premiere - "Pilot" - 9/22/2014
Nearly a perfect premier. Call it the Anti S.H.I.E.L.D.. Great cast, solid characters, amazing production values, solid story, great score, etc. Pretty much everything I wanted out of S.H.I.E.L.D. that they failed to deliver on.
My only two nitpicks were the title sequence (hopefully simplified for the pilot) which sometimes changes by Ep. 2. The other is the same complaint everyone else has mentioned, which is overkill on all the villains in a single episode.
Re-imagining would be his parents living and Bruce deciding to become the Bat for another reason.
Speaking of, I never made the connection that Bruce and Clark Kent's mothers share the same name.
Perfect comparison. The actor playing Gordon kept reminding me of Russel Crowe in LA Confidential. Lots of looks and little mannerisms.
Totally unrelated to anything, Catwoman stole a brand new quart of milk but when she opened it to pour some out for her kitties there was barely anything left in it.
My only two nitpicks were the title sequence (hopefully simplified for the pilot) which sometimes changes by Ep. 2. The other is the same complaint everyone else has mentioned, which is overkill on all the villains in a single episode.
Speaking of, I never made the connection that Bruce and Clark Kent's mothers share the same name.
Totally unrelated to anything, Catwoman stole a brand new quart of milk but when she opened it to pour some out for her kitties there was barely anything left in it.
#56
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Re: Gotham (S1E1) - Series Premiere - "Pilot" - 9/22/2014
I thought having Bruce's parents be killed by the Man Who Would Become The Joker was a needless coincidence that thoroughly cheapens both characters.
#58
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Re: Gotham (S1E1) - Series Premiere - "Pilot" - 9/22/2014
Totally unrelated to anything, Catwoman stole a brand new quart of milk but when she opened it to pour some out for her kitties there was barely anything left in it.
#59
Re: Gotham (S1E1) - Series Premiere - "Pilot" - 9/22/2014
I wasn't as blown away by this pilot as others, but I'll regularly tune into this.
Poussey PayPal commercial was a big highlight of the night!
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Re: Gotham (S1E1) - Series Premiere - "Pilot" - 9/22/2014
They really didn't have to go through all those wink wink, nudge nudge cameo/name drops of future Batman folks.
#62
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Re: Gotham (S1E1) - Series Premiere - "Pilot" - 9/22/2014
It was good, not great. I would give it a solid B or B+
McKenzie IMO is a very underrated actor. I liked him as Gordon. I also really enjoyed Logue as Harvey. It was a good setup for a series that has potential. It had a very crime noirish thriller feel to it.
I'm glad that Bruno Heller left the Mentalist, which is in it's last season and was a sinking ship creatively, to focus on this fulltime. He's a really talented writer from his days on Rome. I'm glad he didn't make this into a Gotham city weekly cop procedural.
Yeah I also noticed all the winks to future Gotham villians. They did fill the kitchen sink with a lot of villains in 42 minutes.
Question, Is Barbara Gordon (unborn Batgirl), the daughter of Barbara Kean? I haven't read the comics, so a lot of my Batman knowledge is from the original movies and the Nolan trilogy.
I hope this does well tomorrow, but it's got a tough timeslot.
McKenzie IMO is a very underrated actor. I liked him as Gordon. I also really enjoyed Logue as Harvey. It was a good setup for a series that has potential. It had a very crime noirish thriller feel to it.
I'm glad that Bruno Heller left the Mentalist, which is in it's last season and was a sinking ship creatively, to focus on this fulltime. He's a really talented writer from his days on Rome. I'm glad he didn't make this into a Gotham city weekly cop procedural.
Yeah I also noticed all the winks to future Gotham villians. They did fill the kitchen sink with a lot of villains in 42 minutes.
Question, Is Barbara Gordon (unborn Batgirl), the daughter of Barbara Kean? I haven't read the comics, so a lot of my Batman knowledge is from the original movies and the Nolan trilogy.
I hope this does well tomorrow, but it's got a tough timeslot.
#63
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Re: Gotham (S1E1) - Series Premiere - "Pilot" - 9/22/2014
I'm surprised some of you haven't recognized Ben McKenzie from his previous works. This is a potential huge starring role for him. I'm glad he's getting some love now.
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#64
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Re: Gotham (S1E1) - Series Premiere - "Pilot" - 9/22/2014
McKenzie played Batman himself in Batman: Year One. Nobody ever seems to mention that in any of the stuff I've read online about Gotham.
#67
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: Gotham (S1E1) - Series Premiere - "Pilot" - 9/22/2014
Is this the best the traditional networks can come up with these days? ABC, NBC, CBS and FOX are starting to mimic the movie industry, as there is nothing original anymore.
#68
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Re: Gotham (S1E1) - Series Premiere - "Pilot" - 9/22/2014
The mute kid from Touch plays the young Bruce Wayne.
The acting is kind of bad and cheesy though and not the creme of the crop.
The acting is kind of bad and cheesy though and not the creme of the crop.
#69
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Re: Gotham (S1E1) - Series Premiere - "Pilot" - 9/22/2014
Basically. It's Monday which means Gotham, Sleepy Hollow and the silly Under The Dome.
I figured it would be over the top.
I figured it would be over the top.
#70
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Re: Gotham (S1E1) - Series Premiere - "Pilot" - 9/22/2014
I think it's going to take some used to of the show's version of Bullock. I'm also going to nitpick on the casting of the actress playing Montoya. At least they kept her sexuality intact.
It's not perfect and want to see how the changes will play out so I'm definitely in.
It's not perfect and want to see how the changes will play out so I'm definitely in.
I'm middle of the road on the show so far. I didn't really like it, but I didn't hate it either. It's just kinda there. If this wasn't connected to Batman, I wouldn't watch it further, but since I'm a dork for Bat-stuff I'm going to stick around for a bit and see what this show can grow into.
#71
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Re: Gotham (S1E1) - Series Premiere - "Pilot" - 9/22/2014
No, it's also one show. There's this and SHIELD. There's plenty of other programming too, though the best does mimic and one ups the movie industry (Hannibal).
#72
Re: Gotham (S1E1) - Series Premiere - "Pilot" - 9/22/2014
This was just OK to me. I really liked the look of the show. The cast, for the most part, was pretty great. I like McKenzie... but I don't really like him for this. I can see myself potentially getting bored with this. I'll give it some more time to develop though.
#73
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Gotham (S1E1) - Series Premiere - "Pilot" - 9/22/2014
The production values were great but the script was pretty meh. I won't be back for round 2.
#74
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Re: Gotham (S1E1) - Series Premiere - "Pilot" - 9/22/2014
Looked gorgeous. I thought the performances were really good, in particular the kid playing Bruce Wayne. I'm in for awhile...
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