Re: Survivor: Cagayan -- 2 Hour Finale & Reunion Show -- "It's Do Or Die" -- 5/21/14
:lol: at how stupid Woo was for bringing Tony to final tribal.
Tony was annoying sometimes, but he played his heart out in this game. Between those 2, he 100% deserved to win. :lol: at Trish's really over the top speech to Tony. Talk about butthurt. Reminded me somewhat of Sue Hawk's ridiculously over the top speech in season 1. I thought this finale was a little weird, especially how they intercut the live studio scenes with Jeff. I miss the old days with Jeff on the jet sky or sky diving to the finale. Those were really goofy, but fun. So they're doing Blood vs. Water 2 in the Fall in Nicaragua. So this is going to be all newbies right? I don't mind the concept with family members battling each other, but I just don't want another All-Star edition again. |
Re: Survivor: Cagayan -- 2 Hour Finale & Reunion Show -- "It's Do Or Die" -- 5/21/14
Originally Posted by DJariya
(Post 12114361)
So they're doing Blood vs. Water 2 in the Fall in Nicaragua. So this is going to be all newbies right? I don't mind the concept with family members battling each other, but I just don't want another All-Star edition again.
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Re: Survivor: Cagayan -- 2 Hour Finale & Reunion Show -- "It's Do Or Die" -- 5/21/14
Originally Posted by Baron Of Hell
(Post 12114356)
I doubt anyone changed their vote because of that speech. No one was directly asked if it influenced their vote but from the the interviews it didn't sound that way.
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Re: Survivor: Cagayan -- 2 Hour Finale & Reunion Show -- "It's Do Or Die" -- 5/21/14
Originally Posted by Baron Of Hell
(Post 12114356)
I doubt anyone changed their vote because of that speech. No one was directly asked if it influenced their vote but from the the interviews it didn't sound that way.
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Re: Survivor: Cagayan -- 2 Hour Finale & Reunion Show -- "It's Do Or Die" -- 5/21/14
Good finale nonetheless. I was hoping Tony or Spencer would win. Both of them played the best game and either one deserved it.
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Re: Survivor: Cagayan -- 2 Hour Finale & Reunion Show -- "It's Do Or Die" -- 5/21/14
Originally Posted by DJariya
(Post 12114361)
So they're doing Blood vs. Water 2 in the Fall in Nicaragua. So this is going to be all newbies right?
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Re: Survivor: Cagayan -- 2 Hour Finale & Reunion Show -- "It's Do Or Die" -- 5/21/14
Originally Posted by Setzer
(Post 12114350)
Russell and Tony played a very similar game. They both were willing to lie, cheat & steal their way to the end. The only difference was Tony didn't do stuff to ruin camp life for everyone like hide the machete or socks.
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Re: Survivor: Cagayan -- 2 Hour Finale & Reunion Show -- "It's Do Or Die" -- 5/21/14
Originally Posted by windom
(Post 12114402)
Yes, Blood vs. Water 2 is all new players.
Happy to see Tony win. He deserved it. I wouldn't call Spencer's speech "sour grapes" at all. Spencer is a huge fan of the show, and probably hated to seasons end when a deserving winner gets screwed by a butt-hurt jury. And jurors have gone on little rants before rather than asking questions. Kass still doesn't quite get it. She wasn't a villain because of her gameplay. She was a villain because of her horrible personality. |
Re: Survivor: Cagayan -- 2 Hour Finale & Reunion Show -- "It's Do Or Die" -- 5/21/14
I think Tony got very lucky he had a pretty trusting cast around him. In most seasons his behavior would have made him a huge target much earlier in the game.
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Re: Survivor: Cagayan -- 2 Hour Finale & Reunion Show -- "It's Do Or Die" -- 5/21/14
Originally Posted by brainee
(Post 12114436)
:thumbsup: I didn't watch the first Blood vs Water season since I couldn't stand a number of the returning players. Not that I have anything against All Star seasons ... but they should be rare (not every year).
Happy to see Tony win. He deserved it. I wouldn't call Spencer's speech "sour grapes" at all. Spencer is a huge fan of the show, and probably hated to seasons end when a deserving winner gets screwed by a butt-hurt jury. And jurors have gone on little rants before rather than asking questions. Kass still doesn't quite get it. She wasn't a villain because of her gameplay. She was a villain because of her horrible personality. |
Re: Survivor: Cagayan -- 2 Hour Finale & Reunion Show -- "It's Do Or Die" -- 5/21/14
Bitch owned puzzles though.
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Re: Survivor: Cagayan -- 2 Hour Finale & Reunion Show -- "It's Do Or Die" -- 5/21/14
Originally Posted by AaronHernandez
(Post 12114418)
No Russell was a supergoat who played like Kass. To create #khaos.
Tony was never trying to be a villian or just be a dick to make "good tv", he was just playing a game where he knew he had to betray people to win. Kass doesn't even come close. |
Re: Survivor: Cagayan -- 2 Hour Finale & Reunion Show -- "It's Do Or Die" -- 5/21/14
Other then both being bald white guys and finding idols their games had nothing in common.Tony is a hard worker,likeable and social and won the game because he took the time to get to know people and bond with them so that they still would want to vote for him even after he betrayed them. Whereas Russell was lazy around camp and liked by almost no one.
Russell was an irrational little troll who comes from the same goat line as Kass,Sugar and Dreamz except fans were tricked into thinking Russell is a good player and "robbed by a bitter jury" cause he had tons of confessionals saying "this is my island" and everyone in Samoa besides him and Shambo were basically invisible and editing was basically narration from his perspective. |
Re: Survivor: Cagayan -- 2 Hour Finale & Reunion Show -- "It's Do Or Die" -- 5/21/14
Originally Posted by brainee
(Post 12114436)
I wouldn't call Spencer's speech "sour grapes" at all. Spencer is a huge fan of the show, and probably hated to seasons end when a deserving winner gets screwed by a butt-hurt jury. And jurors have gone on little rants before rather than asking questions.
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Re: Survivor: Cagayan -- 2 Hour Finale & Reunion Show -- "It's Do Or Die" -- 5/21/14
Originally Posted by AaronHernandez
(Post 12114549)
Other then both being bald white guys and finding idols their games had nothing in common.Tony is a hard worker,likeable and social and won the game because he took the time to get to know people and bond with them so that they still would want to vote for him even after he betrayed them. Whereas Russell was lazy around camp and liked by almost no one.
Russell was an irrational little troll who comes from the same goat line as Kass,Sugar and Dreamz except fans were tricked into thinking Russell is a good player and "robbed by a bitter jury" cause he had tons of confessionals saying "this is my island" and everyone in Samoa besides him and Shambo were basically invisible and editing was basically narration from his perspective. |
Re: Survivor: Cagayan -- 2 Hour Finale & Reunion Show -- "It's Do Or Die" -- 5/21/14
Go read peoples interviews. Outside of Sarah no one personally hated Tony. Morgan complimented him,LJ,Trish and Jefra seemed more like battered spouses venting on the jury and Spencer not only liked him I think Tony was the player he wants to be when he grows up.
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Re: Survivor: Cagayan -- 2 Hour Finale & Reunion Show -- "It's Do Or Die" -- 5/21/14
Originally Posted by arminius
(Post 12114478)
I think it was both. She not only voted for people because of how she felt about them, she did so even when it was to her detriment. Then she was smug about it like it was some brilliant move. She is just clueless.
Just think of how different the game would have been if Kass just stood strong with the Brains after that merge and they were on top. They did get other cop on their side but Kass' personal beef got in her way. I'm so glad she got voted out. Woo bringing the KHAOS, bitches! |
Re: Survivor: Cagayan -- 2 Hour Finale & Reunion Show -- "It's Do Or Die" -- 5/21/14
Originally Posted by madcougar
(Post 12114127)
I don't think the ONLY reason Tony won was Spencer's impassioned plea. And I agree that Tony deserved to win. I guess what I mean is that is sounded like sour grapes or a tantrum to me that he'd go off like that for either one of the contestants.
Originally Posted by Setzer
(Post 12114555)
Who said anything about his speech being "sour grapes"?
Originally Posted by Setzer
(Post 12114555)
I thought it was great. It was nice to see someone on the jury who knows it's just a game and they got outplayed and that's why they didn't win. Most of the time you end up with people who are butt hurt and bitter and they give the million to the least deserving player. That's why I think Spencer's speech helped Tony last night. There were several players who were butt hurt and probably didn't want to give Tony their vote.
I don't think Russell deserved to win his seasons. That went beyond a bitter jury ... he treated people like crap, and you can't expect to have those same people give you a million dollars. Tony did make a mistake in the elaborate swearing (on family, badge, etc), since some people saw that as crossing a moral line beyond simple gameplay. If he made "regular" promises, I wonder if some of the jurors would've been so hostile. Fortunately for Tony, he was able to overcome that (helped out by the fact that Woo had practically no gameplay of own that he could claim). |
Re: Survivor: Cagayan -- 2 Hour Finale & Reunion Show -- "It's Do Or Die" -- 5/21/14
Tony deserved it. The lie about the HII was perfectly done. He made all the right moves.
Woo didn't deserve it but he really came off as likable. The sapp in me wouldn't have minded if he won. Stupid, stupid move though. I don't think Spencer's speech swayed the jury much. I think the editing made it seem like more people would vote for Woo. Tasha probably voted for him out of sympathy. Plus the final tribal is usually more about airing grievances anyway. We've seen plenty of people rip into a player only to vote for them. :lol: At everyone calling Kass the goat. |
Re: Survivor: Cagayan -- 2 Hour Finale & Reunion Show -- "It's Do Or Die" -- 5/21/14
Did anyone else get some serious Wynn Duffy vibes from Probst tonight? I mean it looks like he had some serious work done. He even had the eyebrow thing going on a few times.
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Re: Survivor: Cagayan -- 2 Hour Finale & Reunion Show -- "It's Do Or Die" -- 5/21/14
Originally Posted by Maxflier
(Post 12114063)
I hope Woo doesn't beat himself up too much about his choice because of the jury members who claimed they would have voted for him. Keep in mind they were saying that many months after the fact. As much as I hate ****face Kass, I have a hard time believing they would have given the million to Woo over her when it was time to actually cast their votes.
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Re: Survivor: Cagayan -- 2 Hour Finale & Reunion Show -- "It's Do Or Die" -- 5/21/14
Also, I am really shocked at all of those in this thread saying as matter a fact about Spencer's speech not having an impact. Between Sarah, Trish, Jeremiah and Jeffra, a good portion of that jury was EXTREMELY butt hurt. Spencer spoke the absolute truth and his appeal to the jury was very refreshing. Not sure what the final vote was but I have to think it made a bit of an impact and maybe brought some people back to the real world to consider how they would look if they were all sour-pusses once the show aired.
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Re: Survivor: Cagayan -- 2 Hour Finale & Reunion Show -- "It's Do Or Die" -- 5/21/14
Originally Posted by thebunk
(Post 12115618)
Not sure what the final vote was but I have to think it made a bit of an impact and maybe brought some people back to the real world to consider how they would look if they were all sour-pusses once the show aired.
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Re: Survivor: Cagayan -- 2 Hour Finale & Reunion Show -- "It's Do Or Die" -- 5/21/14
Originally Posted by thebunk
(Post 12115618)
Also, I am really shocked at all of those in this thread saying as matter a fact about Spencer's speech not having an impact. Between Sarah, Trish, Jeremiah and Jeffra, a good portion of that jury was EXTREMELY butt hurt. Spencer spoke the absolute truth and his appeal to the jury was very refreshing. Not sure what the final vote was but I have to think it made a bit of an impact and maybe brought some people back to the real world to consider how they would look if they were all sour-pusses once the show aired.
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Re: Survivor: Cagayan -- 2 Hour Finale & Reunion Show -- "It's Do Or Die" -- 5/21/14
I don't think the speeches ever change a single vote. Everyone has already made up their mind going into them. Survivor likes to edit it to seem they have a huge impact.
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