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JeffTheAlpaca 06-21-14 05:12 PM

Re: Crossbones (NBC) -- S: John Malkovich as Blackbeard -- From the creator of Luther
 
The SF Giants games always preempt this show or start it 15 minutes early and I have to catch it on demand.

Baron Of Hell 06-22-14 06:29 AM

Re: Crossbones (NBC) -- S: John Malkovich as Blackbeard -- From the creator of Luther
 
Its hard to believe the show could be that bad with the cast they have. Has it not improved?

TGM 06-22-14 06:59 AM

Re: Crossbones (NBC) -- S: John Malkovich as Blackbeard -- From the creator of Luther
 
I watched about 25 mins of the first episode... it was pretty bad. a PG rated pirate show? what's the point?

Jory 07-15-14 12:25 AM

Re: Crossbones (NBC) -- S: John Malkovich as Blackbeard -- From the creator of Luther
 

Originally Posted by TGM (Post 12146567)
I watched about 25 mins of the first episode... it was pretty bad. a PG rated pirate show? what's the point?

I've been keeping up with every episode (five so far), and the violence has been pretty gruesome at times; plenty of beatings, cut throats, sword impalings, shootings, and even a severed eyeball, all shown on camera. Fairly typical for modern broadcast standards: show as much grisly violence as you want, as long as there are no nipples or four letter words.

It's not a typical pirate show, however. The traditional pirate stuff, like ship battles and swordfights and buried treasure, has totaled maybe five or ten minutes of footage so far in the series. You could almost shoot the scripts in a modern setting and not change anything. It's got more in common with Apocalypse Now than any other pirate film or TV show I've seen.

I think the show's a lot better than some people have been making it out, but even among those who don't really like it, I don't think many would agree that it's being held back much by broadcast standards.

Quatermass 07-15-14 11:59 AM

Re: Crossbones (NBC) -- S: John Malkovich as Blackbeard -- From the creator of Luther
 

Originally Posted by Jory (Post 12168810)
I've been keeping up with every episode (five so far), and the violence has been pretty gruesome at times; plenty of beatings, cut throats, sword impalings, shootings, and even a severed eyeball, all shown on camera. Fairly typical for modern broadcast standards: show as much grisly violence as you want, as long as there are no nipples or four letter words.

It's not a typical pirate show, however. The traditional pirate stuff, like ship battles and swordfights and buried treasure, has totaled maybe five or ten minutes of footage so far in the series. You could almost shoot the scripts in a modern setting and not change anything. It's got more in common with Apocalypse Now than any other pirate film or TV show I've seen.

I think the show's a lot better than some people have been making it out, but even among those who don't really like it, I don't think many would agree that it's being held back much by broadcast standards.

I tend to agree, although I have only seen the first two episodes. I have the rest recorded and I intend to watch them all eventually. It's much better to skip the commercials. It suffers from the typical Network TV Political Correctness, but I am interested in seeing how it all winds up.

PhantomStranger 07-15-14 03:16 PM

Re: Crossbones (NBC) -- S: John Malkovich as Blackbeard -- From the creator of Luther
 

Originally Posted by Jory (Post 12168810)
It's not a typical pirate show, however. The traditional pirate stuff, like ship battles and swordfights and buried treasure, has totaled maybe five or ten minutes of footage so far in the series. You could almost shoot the scripts in a modern setting and not change anything. It's got more in common with Apocalypse Now than any other pirate film or TV show I've seen.

I think the show's a lot better than some people have been making it out, but even among those who don't really like it, I don't think many would agree that it's being held back much by broadcast standards.

I got that vibe from the pilot, which is why I didn't bother to keep up with the series. Pirate action is expensive and Malkovich is likely taking up most of the budget.

Jory 07-17-14 08:35 PM

Re: Crossbones (NBC) -- S: John Malkovich as Blackbeard -- From the creator of Luther
 
I somehow missed this announcement late last month, but Crossbones will be on DVD, set for September 2nd. No Blu-ray, and it's only a two-disc set, so I'm not going to expect many extras if they're cramming five 45-minute episodes on each disc.

I took PhantomStranger's advice and watched a bit of Dracula, since it's still available for steaming on the NBC app, and I've enjoyed it so far... but for some reason Episode 4 isn't on there. The Blu-ray set is already out in the UK, but it's Region B, and there isn't even a release date for it in the US.

Between Crossbones getting a (presumably bare bones) DVD-only release and Dracula getting no DVD or Blu-ray release scheduled at all so far, I'm wondering if they're intentionally neglecting the physical media market to try to get people to just buy digital episodes at three bucks a pop. Which isn't too bad, compared to how much a Blu-ray set would cost, but I'd still like it on physical media.

PhantomStranger 07-18-14 01:05 AM

Re: Crossbones (NBC) -- S: John Malkovich as Blackbeard -- From the creator of Luther
 

Originally Posted by Jory (Post 12172199)
I took PhantomStranger's advice and watched a bit of Dracula, since it's still available for steaming on the NBC app, and I've enjoyed it so far... but for some reason Episode 4 isn't on there. The Blu-ray set is already out in the UK, but it's Region B, and there isn't even a release date for it in the US.

Between Crossbones getting a (presumably bare bones) DVD-only release and Dracula getting no DVD or Blu-ray release scheduled at all so far, I'm wondering if they're intentionally neglecting the physical media market to try to get people to just buy digital episodes at three bucks a pop. Which isn't too bad, compared to how much a Blu-ray set would cost, but I'd still like it on physical media.

That UK Blu-ray set for Dracula is almost certainly region-free, despite Amazon.co.uk's listing info. Universal virtually never locks their releases, anywhere in the world.;)

You don't have to worry about Dracula hitting Blu-ray in the United States, those plans got scuttled when it was canceled by NBC.

Jory 07-18-14 01:35 AM

Re: Crossbones (NBC) -- S: John Malkovich as Blackbeard -- From the creator of Luther
 

Originally Posted by PhantomStranger (Post 12172432)
That UK Blu-ray set for Dracula is almost certainly region-free, despite Amazon.co.uk's listing info. Universal virtually never locks their releases, anywhere in the world.;)

You don't have to worry about Dracula hitting Blu-ray in the United States, those plans got scuttled when it was canceled by NBC.

Unfortunately, someone in a Blu-ray.com message board thread confirmed that it's Region B locked. Everyone was just assuming that it was region-free, and someone ordered it based in that assumption. It wasn't. (EDIT: Found the message board link here.)

Amazon does have a listing for a US release, but there's no release date. I guess I'll just have to watch the rest of the episodes on the NBC app on my iPad, even though Episode 4 is mysteriously missing.

Anyway, thanks for turning me on to something I would have otherwise avoided. The previews looked awful, but the three episodes I've watched have been quite enjoyable.

EDIT 2: Just saw a promo for the next episode of Crossbones. Looks like we finally get to see Malkovich looking like the traditional Blackbeard for once. YouTube link.

Jory 07-20-14 03:23 AM

Re: Crossbones (NBC) -- S: John Malkovich as Blackbeard -- From the creator of Luther
 
Just finished watching the newest episode, "A Hole in the Head." I noticed that it was written by Josh Friedman of Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles. I don't think it's any coincidence that it was the best episode yet. I can't find any writing credits online for the remaining four episodes of the season (and probably the series, since I'm assuming there won't be a Season 2), but I'm hoping they kept him around to end this thing on a strong note.

MikahC 07-24-14 05:28 PM

Re: Crossbones (NBC) -- S: John Malkovich as Blackbeard -- From the creator of Luther
 
Crossbones moves to Saturday


NBC has announced that following this Friday’s regularly scheduled outing, the pirate drama’s final two episodes will drop anchor on a Saturday night — Aug. 2, starting at 8/7c.

DJariya 07-24-14 05:33 PM

Re: Crossbones (NBC) -- S: John Malkovich as Blackbeard -- From the creator of Luther
 
I didn't bother with this one because I figured it was doomed. Plus, I just don't think John Malkovich is a draw for network TV audiences. He's more of a quirky character actor.

Giantrobo 07-24-14 05:47 PM

Re: Crossbones (NBC) -- S: John Malkovich as Blackbeard -- From the creator of Luther
 
Been catching up on this on Hulu. It's ok.

Jory 07-25-14 04:06 PM

Re: Crossbones (NBC) -- S: John Malkovich as Blackbeard -- From the creator of Luther
 

Originally Posted by PhantomStranger (Post 12172432)
You don't have to worry about Dracula hitting Blu-ray in the United States, those plans got scuttled when it was canceled by NBC.

Huzzah. :D Just announced.

I wasn't expecting them to release it either, or maybe it would get a DVD-only release like Crossbones, but I guess they figured they already went through the trouble of releasing it in the UK and why not just port those discs over to Region A.

Giantrobo 07-25-14 05:50 PM

Re: Crossbones (NBC) -- S: John Malkovich as Blackbeard -- From the creator of Luther
 
JM's accent goes in and out and the Doctor is an annoying asshole.

Eric F 07-25-14 10:45 PM

Re: Crossbones (NBC) -- S: John Malkovich as Blackbeard -- From the creator of Luther
 
Black beard makes an appearance!

Jory 07-27-14 12:10 AM

Re: Crossbones (NBC) -- S: John Malkovich as Blackbeard -- From the creator of Luther
 
Kris Kristofferson is looking pretty good for his age.

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1...psa5926fb8.jpg

Wait. Rob Zombie?

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i1...psac8c0799.jpg

It was nice seeing Malkovich actually looking like Blackbeard in the flashback, but it would have been nicer if he had said a single word. It's hard to tell with Malkovich when he's sleepwalking through a role and when he's actually trying to be stoically creepy. I'm still sort of wishing they had gotten Ian McShane, although the tone of Crossbones is so different from the Pirates of the Caribbean films that I can understand why they would want to avoid comparisons.

A filler episode for the most part, lots of drama relating to secrets and grudges and misunderstandings that amount to nothing much at all. Even though I seem to be this show's only fan, I'm sort of glad it's only getting a single season. Probably the only way to do a Season 2 would be to make it a prequel. Ryan Hurst for Blackbeard? Make it happen, NBC. God knows you're not going to find much success with those godawful-looking sitcoms you keep advertising on your iPad app.

mikehunt 08-11-14 08:16 PM

Re: Crossbones (NBC) -- S: John Malkovich as Blackbeard -- From the creator of Luther
 
just got through my backlog of episodes
it wasn't bad but could have been better. As a Sid Meier's Pirates! fan more ship stuff would have been nice


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