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DJariya 01-19-14 04:24 AM

True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 
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Synopsis:


Under pressure to land a suspect in the Lange murder, Quesada warns Hart and Cohle that they might be replaced by three detectives from a new task force. The pair lobbies for extra time to follow up on a lead that takes them from a rural cathouse to an incinerated church. With his marriage to Maggie already strained by work, Hart finds respite away from home.

Written by Nic Pizzolatto; directed by Cary Joji Fukunaga.



Episode 2 of 8



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mwbmis 01-19-14 05:24 PM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 
While I very much enjoyed last week's episode from a dramatic view point, if the screencaps floating around are any indication, tonight's episode will truly provide an "oh my" moment.

Dr. DVD 01-19-14 07:03 PM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 
A bit off topic, but I'm presuming McConaughey made this right after or around Dallas Buyers Club. He is noticeably waifish looking in this series.

Osiris3657 01-19-14 08:18 PM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 
Damn....who is that woman? :drool:

Rypro 525 01-19-14 08:20 PM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 
^ assuming its from the screencaps that leaked online, she was the lead in Texas Chainsaw 3D

mwbmis 01-19-14 08:29 PM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 
Also, she's Annabeth in the Percy Jackson movies.

dex14 01-19-14 08:58 PM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 

Originally Posted by Dr. DVD (Post 11983257)
A bit off topic, but I'm presuming McConaughey made this right after or around Dallas Buyers Club. He is noticeably waifish looking in this series.

Yea I believe he started losing weight before filming TWOWS, then did DBC and then did this.

CaptainMarvel 01-19-14 11:35 PM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 

Originally Posted by mwbmis (Post 11983433)
Also, she's Annabeth in the Percy Jackson movies.

Good god almighty. I just watched the last Percy Jackson movie and noticed they were desperately trying to make her look younger. It was noticeable that she was sexy despite their efforts, but I had no idea she had that body under there. Jesus.

Osiris3657 01-19-14 11:48 PM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 
Found a gif of the shirt lift....my god, those are glorious! Would post, but I feel like I'd get suspended :lol:

Mike86 01-19-14 11:53 PM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 
I love this show, too bad we likely only get one season with Hart and Cohle. Cohle may be one of the most interesting television characters in a long time to me and McConaughey continues to impress me with his performance. His character definitely has a strange but interesting past. I think the show wants us to believe that Cohle may be involved in the murders but that it's a red herring. It just seems too obvious and they're trying to throw out a bunch of false leads to throw us off.

Nothing really big in regards to the case happened tonight other than the two detectives continuing their investigation and the ending with the church and the drawing on the wall. I was still glued to the show the entire time despite nothing major happening though. It felt like this episode was just more about character building than anything.

This episode answered what likely happens with Marty and Maggie eventually, I wonder if
Spoiler:
Rust eventually reveals to Maggie that he knows Marty is cheating on her which leads to her splitting up with him as well as ends the partnership of Rust and Marty. It looks like something may happen next week with Cohle and Maggie.


Also, dear lord is Alexandra Daddario gorgeous. :drool:

PenguinJoe 01-20-14 01:50 AM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 
Those tits were amazing.

Giantrobo 01-20-14 02:42 AM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 

Originally Posted by mwbmis (Post 11983433)
Also, she's Annabeth in the Percy Jackson movies.

O_O woow...

JTH182 01-20-14 03:29 AM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 
Those look real, too! Good god is that girl blessed!

csant 01-20-14 06:10 AM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 
Yeah, Im glad I was alone in the room when she got naked... cause I was mesmerized by those beautiful pair of.... /drooling.

mcnabb 01-20-14 06:34 AM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 
It's only 8 episodes, so I will probably stick with it, but the show is just not working for me. I seem to be in the minority as most people who post here really like it.

Oh well, I still have the last 2 seasons of Breaking Bad on BluRay to finish up this winter before Game of Thrones starts, so don't feel too bad for me!

CaptainMarvel 01-20-14 07:54 AM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 

Originally Posted by csant (Post 11983805)
Yeah, Im glad I was alone in the room when she got naked... cause I was mesmerized by those beautiful pair of.... /drooling.

I think the episode title was quite fitting.

Deftones 01-20-14 08:28 AM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 
great googily moogily those were some awesome tits and a fantastic ass. :up:

mugwump 01-20-14 08:50 AM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 
Having just watched "Banshee" it threw me for a second seeing Lili Simmons (Rebecca) as the young prostitute. And yes, the "scene" was a jaw-dropper for sure.

Shannon Nutt 01-20-14 10:03 AM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 
They're real, and they're spectacular.

Oh, the episode was pretty damn good too. :)

chuckd21 01-20-14 12:49 PM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 
Excellent episode, and that woman is so cute it's painful.

dex14 01-20-14 12:53 PM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 
For those who haven't watched yet... to get an idea of what will be unleashed. Spoiler for size (no pun intended):


Red Dog 01-20-14 01:03 PM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 

Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt (Post 11983968)
They're real, and they're spectacular.

Oh, the episode was pretty damn good too. :)

Amazing and so beautiful besides those.

Neil M. 01-20-14 03:06 PM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 
This show went down a notch for me. I love the characters but the plot needs to be better. I didn't understand why they didn't check out the church once they found the flyer in the diary. It seems like that would be an important thing to check out immediately, especially considering the nature of the crime.

Giantrobo 01-20-14 03:26 PM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 

Originally Posted by Neil M. (Post 11984261)
This show went down a notch for me. I love the characters but the plot needs to be better. I didn't understand why they didn't check out the church once they found the flyer in the diary. It seems like that would be an important thing to check out immediately, especially considering the nature of the crime.

But isnt the detective in denial of this case's Religion connection? Although he was already believing in the ritual aspect of the crime, he didnt buy the Christian Church/Cult connection...

Harrelson's character is doing the standard, "lets round up hooker customers" thing.

csant 01-20-14 03:29 PM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 
I think since its 8 episodes, this might be one of those shows you should binge watch. I know, I havent been pulled in completely. Its just that Matthew and Woody are two great actors or at least I like them a lot to give it a shot.

Giantrobo 01-20-14 03:30 PM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 

Originally Posted by dex14 (Post 11984149)
For those who haven't watched yet... to get an idea of what will be unleashed. Spoiler for size (no pun intended):


Wow....there is your Wonder Woman. How did they miss this casting?!?!?!

csant 01-20-14 03:32 PM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 

Originally Posted by Giantrobo (Post 11984298)
Wow....there is your Wonder Woman. How did they miss this casting?!?!?!

I agree one thousand percent!

johnnysd 01-20-14 05:46 PM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 

Originally Posted by Neil M. (Post 11984261)
This show went down a notch for me. I love the characters but the plot needs to be better. I didn't understand why they didn't check out the church once they found the flyer in the diary. It seems like that would be an important thing to check out immediately, especially considering the nature of the crime.

McC wanted to but Woody wanted to check for Johns first. Still the think the "twist" is really obvious.

Geofferson 01-20-14 10:57 PM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 
I enjoyed the episode. Hearing Cohle talk about his past was rough. Guy's been put through the ringer.

philo 01-20-14 11:50 PM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 
After feeling cheated with tantalizing hints of perfection in Texas Chainsaw 3D this episode more than made up for that particular injustice.

I agree that given the pace it would be ideal to binge watch but I'm enjoying the show too much to wait.

RocShemp 01-21-14 04:49 AM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 

Originally Posted by Rypro 525 (Post 11983397)
^ assuming its from the screencaps that leaked online, she was the lead in Texas Chainsaw 3D


Originally Posted by mwbmis (Post 11983433)
Also, she's Annabeth in the Percy Jackson movies.

She was also Neil's doomed love interest in season 1 of White Collar.

RocShemp 01-21-14 04:50 AM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 

Originally Posted by Giantrobo (Post 11984298)
Wow....there is your Wonder Woman. How did they miss this casting?!?!?!


Originally Posted by csant (Post 11984299)
I agree one thousand percent!

And she's Greek too. :drool:

sven 01-21-14 04:51 AM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 
And Charlie was banging her in an episode of Sunny before dumping her for the waitress.

Coladar1 01-21-14 07:14 AM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 
Hmm... I'm surprised at the lack of speculation. I can appreciate the notion that it's a whodunnit, follow the trail, yadda yadda, and having the killer be someone we don't expect is almost too obvious or unrealistic. That definitely works for procedurals, where it's a crime of the week. But *most* times, for shows and stories where we have epic, seasonal plus long mysteries? Where the mystery/killing is the focus as much as anything else? Usually it's the same as with theatrical thrillers (Springing to mind now, The General's Daughter, but I could come up with any number of other late 90's films of the sort)

They end up having the killer be someone we know... early. It's so damn hard to resist from a creative standpoint - which is more 'I'm a genius' to write, and more rewarding for the viewer? Having an unknown & previously unseen killer pop up in the final ten minutes as some random actor, one they spent ten hours chasing but about two minutes actually showing on screen? Or sprinkling clues all along the way, culminating in the reveal where, shock of shocks, it's someone we never expected and saw throughout from the very first frame?

Case in point, and a show this creator worked on too, The Killing S1+2.

I was expecting there'd be a ton of finger pointing at Cohle at this point - he's being set up as brain damaged, the present day detectives are asking some... leading questions. It totally feels to me like the writer is trying to get the suspicious sort, like myself, to think we're smart as s#!t and say Cohle's the killer.

I'm going to put the rest in spoilers, not because I have a clue what's coming, but because I *really* think I'm on to something.

Spoiler:

It's Woody Harrelson's character. Here's what specifically solidified my belief that the writer is sprinkling clues setting the killer up as an existing character: The present-day detectives pointedly asked Hart "Was Cohle the only one pushing to keep the case, or did you as well?" Add to that their commanding officer said Hart is the sole thing keeping Cohle around at that point? They don't exactly seem too friendly, so that's a bit strange by itself. With this Satanic Task Force threatening to steal the case, Hart must realize pushing to keep it would arouse suspicions. But Cohle? Cohle is very clearly obsessed with this case. Hart knows he'll have somebody else desperate to keep it, someone with a reputation for being outspoken and demanding.

Here's the other couple things: (Weirdo, that death painless nonexistence, absolving sins of parenthood, so forth) - Yellow King. What's a badge's color? Gold... or yellowish. Plus, they've shown the shield rather pointedly, being the shape of Louisiana state - which, at some angles, could appear as a crown. So... I see Yellow King as possibly referencing a cop.

Hart also has an anger problem. Especially if the topic is cheating on his wife. What's more, he seemed intent on 'saving' an underage hooker. Whereas those scenes with Cohle getting the pills from a hooker, and turning her down for sex? They seem awfully out of place. Just bizarre - it just seems like something to set up later, to say "Ha! Look there, see? How could you think he did it when we made it so obvious there that he sees himself above sex/prostitutes/impulsiveness. But Harrelson's character? He's a rage fiend!' Having this bizarre, insane guy with nutty views, an admitted killer of at least four people, no less! Then there's a seemingly 'normal', average family man - yet the more relatable and normal of the two is really the viscious psychopath/killer. Like when Cohle had dinner with Hart, kid asks if Cohle ever shot someone and that their dad never had. If either of them were a serial killer, it seems unimaginable it'd be Hart over Cohle.

Add to that the stuff about "For the good of the family... Have to disconnect, separate this horrific shit from my kids and family."

Biiiiiiiiiigest thing of all - the church. I watched it a couple times, and it was weird what they did with Cohle... Comments about how he thinks the visions are all insanity, until stuff like that happened. How he goes right to this damn mural, covered with brush and mostly obscured, like he knew it was there - just like the stick figure he found in the barn. Odd. Then I remembered this crucial bit - Cohle wanted to go to the church immediately after the bunny ranch. It was Hart who said, "Hey, let's hit the Johns first, the church can wait until Monday." I think he went there during the weekend, thus not wanting to go there right away, and why he left the in-laws to "follow up on a lead" '- having done the mural himself after seeing the church flier to deflect blame.

There's the final aspect of why we're even revisiting these detectives and this case 19 years later. I think it has less to do with direct ties to this case, and more they suspect it is one of the two detectives. Otherwise, why not just question them together? Yeah, they had a falling out, whatever. You question suspects separately. If you're mining for information, for details, from something two decades old, you get the story from both of them together so they can fill in bits and pieces, maybe remember what one forgot. Plus, this case we're reexamining was supposedly solved... if the killer is still out there and they fingered an innocent guy, that sure supports one of the cops being the killer and framing someone by planting all the pieces needed while preventing suspicion and incriminating evidence from falling on himself.

Edit to add: One last thing, that being the unwavering certainty that this season is a one-off; next year, different case *and* different actors/detectives. It's way too early and circumstantial to use that as proof, but to be so definitive this'll be American Horror Story type of 'new year, new show' kind of adds credence to the end of this case being something that ensures we won't see these guys again... at least in my mind.


That's my theory, if nothing else. I'd say I hope I'm wrong, but I'd actually be let down at this point if these are red herrings and it's random dude #11. The flashback aspect, separate interviews, showing immense character flaws of our 90's detectives when it should be focused on case details and the story guided by two 'new' detectives asking questions on an old case... at this point, the unique and innovative way they're telling this story just screams we're not going to find it being an unknown killer.

I think this is why I only watch a fraction of the shows and movies I used to. I clearly spend way too much time obsessing with the writer's intent and analyzing it from a creative standpoint versus simply enjoying the story being told.

bluetoast 01-21-14 09:30 AM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 
Interviewing then separately still makes more sense regardless. If their stories don't match up, it's the present day detectives' job to fill in the holes.

aktick 01-21-14 09:49 AM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 

Originally Posted by Coladar1 (Post 11984802)
....very long post....

;)

Honestly I'd say given the history of whodunit shows/movies, Hart would be the most obvious. Like a magician distracting you with the colorful Cohle over here, while all along he was slipping Hart by you. Simply because Cohle is too obvious, and like you said it's more satisfying for all involved if it's somebody we know from the beginning. And the only other real options in that case so far are the wife or the mistress.....

Which reminds me, Cohle always makes it a point to call the killer "he." Maybe it is actually a she?

Neil M. 01-21-14 11:33 AM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 
I don't want either of them to be the killer. I think it would hurt the show to have such a cliche ending.

dex14 01-21-14 11:38 AM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 

Originally Posted by Neil M. (Post 11985079)
I don't want either of them to be the killer. I think it would hurt the show to have such a cliche ending.

Agreed.

Maybe it'll be Wonder Tits.

Neil M. 01-21-14 12:10 PM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 

Originally Posted by dex14 (Post 11985081)
Agreed.

Maybe it'll be Wonder Tits.

Those things could be deadly weapons. Or at least poke your eye out.

Did anyone else think there was any significance to Martin's daughters placing the dolls in a gangbang scenario? I brushed it off at the time as just another example of young children being exposed to evil. They also showed Dory as a child in that picture with the KKK and Martin made a big deal about that underage prostitute, so I'm thinking that was the point, but then I'm also thinking that maybe they could have seen something and are recreating it.

aktick 01-21-14 12:33 PM

Re: True Detective -- "Seeing Things" -- 1/19/14
 
Maybe the daughters are the killers! :eek:


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