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mphtrilogy 09-18-13 03:10 PM
Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 
here's how I would end the show...


Spoiler:
the plot would have unfoiled that dexter was the bay harbor butcher over these finale eps....

harry's psych tapes become public and the pieces come together
salvaging last year's storyline... with maria and the captain

the captain realizes maria was right and that Dexter is indeed the bay harbor butcher it is uncovered that Deb killed Maria, and Bautista is distraught over this and tracks Dexter and Deb down in the final ep...

Quinn, who is still in love with Deb, follows Bautista and as Angel is going to shoot Deb in a rage because of Maria's death, Quinn kills Bautista saving Deb...

Dexter, witnessing all of this, because of him Anegl is dead and drops to his knees,

Quinn rushes over to Deb and Dexter hovers over Angel's dead body in a pool of blood

Upon the realization that his best friend who stood by him through thick and thin is now dead because of him and his code, Dexter kills himself hari kari style, but first, slashes his own cheek as a final goodbye to the sheer madness of him and his code and his lifestyle...

fast forward months later, deb and quinn are shacked up, with harrison as his legal guardian...

Deb is reminiscing through photos of Dexter and her and then we cut to
Harrison on the kitchen floor, playing with the butcher block knife set, and Dexter's father flashing in front of her kneeling next to Harrison as she sees him and harrison and the butcher block knife set... Deb looks up and says oh no... holy fuck

fade to black...

bluetoast 09-18-13 03:19 PM
Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 
Wait a minute. Why would Vogel even choose to digitize the tapes of Harry? How stupid is that, to put them on her computer where it can be more easily accessed and stolen?

sleepyhead55 09-18-13 03:25 PM
Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 
Originally Posted by CPA-ESQ. (Post 11839748)
Just end already.

In my house we spend more time laughing at the show and all the stupid things they do.
The only way to watch this show now is to watch is at a sitcom/comedy. The stuff with Vogel last week was horrible but I started treating it as a comedy and it was far more entertaining that way.

I gotta admit I got a really good laugh at Saxon yeling "Fuck Dexter" at the gas station with a constipated look on his face.

Originally Posted by CPA-ESQ. (Post 11839748)
3) Hanna goes into an airport - Full of TSA, Police, Immigration, etc officers and does not even wear a baseball cap, or put her hair back -ohbfrank-
Wouldn't it just be easier to drive to another airport and catch a flight there? There probably aren't as much people watching say the Tampa/St-Pete Airport. Or if they really wanted to be super safe, drive to another state and catch the flight there.

Also, why the hell didn't she clear her browser history? She practically gives them the airline and now it can't be too hard to figure out since there are only so many flights to Argentina.

Brack 09-18-13 05:22 PM
Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 
Originally Posted by Goat3001 (Post 11839690)
I was always totally fine with a happy ending because Dexter has always been a comic book hero to me.
He pretty much got LaGuerta killed. Not so much of a hero, just lucky that Deb showed up to do the dirty work/let Dexter off the hook for another season once again.

mickey65 09-18-13 11:13 PM
Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 
Originally Posted by outcastja (Post 11839382)
Clyde Phillips the showrunner for the first four seasons did an AMA on Reddit. He said he would reveal how he would have ended the show after the finale airs.

He pretty much agrees, the show went to shit.
He also disputes the rumored finales being spread all over the internet. Apparently the execs have had a tight hold on it. None of the screeners were released.

stingermck 09-19-13 06:50 AM
Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 
Originally Posted by mickey65 (Post 11840324)
He also disputes the rumored finales being spread all over the internet. Apparently the execs have had a tight hold on it. None of the screeners were released.
I hope so, cause those rumors are terrible.

Neil M. 09-19-13 11:36 AM
Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 
Originally Posted by mickey65 (Post 11840324)
He also disputes the rumored finales being spread all over the internet. Apparently the execs have had a tight hold on it. None of the screeners were released.
To be perfectly honest, the rumored plot for the last episode makes complete sense and would be on par for what has been the quality of the season. Keep in mind that it was leaked before this past episode and it predicted that Deb would be shot. I'd be pleasantly shocked if it was completely wrong and they managed to give us a satisfying conclusion but I would bet against it.

Neil M. 09-19-13 12:39 PM
Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 
Originally Posted by Sigh (Post 11840691)
What is the rumored ending? You can spoilerize it.
Here's the basic synopsis based off of what I remember: Do not click if you don't want to potentially ruin the ending.

Spoiler:
The basics: Elway being at the airport prevents Dexter from leaving. He looks at his phone and sees that Quinn called him a bunch of times. Quinn tells him that Deb's been shot. He goes to the hospital and Elway shows up, they have a confrontation. Quinn takes him aside and they talk alone. Quinn reveals that he's known for awhile that Dexter's a killer but he hasn't said anything because Dexter saved him in the past. Dexter tells Quinn that he's lost the urge to kill and that he's leaving the country with Hannah. Quinn says that he will capture Saxon and kill him. Dexter tells Quinn where he might find him. Quinn tells dexter to hide Hannah and Harrison in his apartment until they can leave. Dexter leaves to do that comes back to the hospital and Deb needs surgery. Quinn finds Saxon and uses Dexter's syringe to knock him out. Quinn takes him to Saxon's hideout and straps him to the chair. Supposedly, there is a back and forth between deb's surgery and Quinn killing saxon with Dexter's knives. Deb dies on the operating table. Quinn arrives and Dexter tells him she's dead. Quinn tells dexter that he saw Elway a couple blocks back and that he will help them escape. They go to dexter's boat, set it on fire and let it go. Quinn tells them to take his car and he'll tell the authorities that he saw the three of them get on the boat. Dexter thanks him. The end.


Again, this could be completely false but it makes sense.

Goat3001 09-19-13 01:25 PM
Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 
I read that too and here's why I'm not so sure that's how it plays out:

Spoiler:
In the preview after last week's episode they showed a bunch of stuff that isn't mentioned in the finale spoilers. Most importantly, they showed Dexter talking to Deb while she was on the gurney at the crime scene.


On the other hand, everything in the spoilers seems to 'fit' with where they are in the story. And it sounds terrible.

anomynous 09-19-13 02:46 PM
Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 
Originally Posted by Neil M. (Post 11840744)
Here's the basic synopsis based off of what I remember: Do not click if you don't want to potentially ruin the ending.

Spoiler:
The basics: Elway being at the airport prevents Dexter from leaving. He looks at his phone and sees that Quinn called him a bunch of times. Quinn tells him that Deb's been shot. He goes to the hospital and Elway shows up, they have a confrontation. Quinn takes him aside and they talk alone. Quinn reveals that he's known for awhile that Dexter's a killer but he hasn't said anything because Dexter saved him in the past. Dexter tells Quinn that he's lost the urge to kill and that he's leaving the country with Hannah. Quinn says that he will capture Saxon and kill him. Dexter tells Quinn where he might find him. Quinn tells dexter to hide Hannah and Harrison in his apartment until they can leave. Dexter leaves to do that comes back to the hospital and Deb needs surgery. Quinn finds Saxon and uses Dexter's syringe to knock him out. Quinn takes him to Saxon's hideout and straps him to the chair. Supposedly, there is a back and forth between deb's surgery and Quinn killing saxon with Dexter's knives. Deb dies on the operating table. Quinn arrives and Dexter tells him she's dead. Quinn tells dexter that he saw Elway a couple blocks back and that he will help them escape. They go to dexter's boat, set it on fire and let it go. Quinn tells them to take his car and he'll tell the authorities that he saw the three of them get on the boat. Dexter thanks him. The end.


Again, this could be completely false but it makes sense.
Forgetting:

Spoiler:
Dexter, Hannah, Harrison live happily ever after in Argentina. Fade to black. Fade back in, it shows Quinn in his car stalking someone. He looks down at his set of knives, his M99, and says "tonight's the night" cut to black.

Coral 09-19-13 04:27 PM
Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 
Originally Posted by Neil M. (Post 11840744)
Here's the basic synopsis based off of what I remember: Do not click if you don't want to potentially ruin the ending.

Spoiler:
The basics: Elway being at the airport prevents Dexter from leaving. He looks at his phone and sees that Quinn called him a bunch of times. Quinn tells him that Deb's been shot. He goes to the hospital and Elway shows up, they have a confrontation. Quinn takes him aside and they talk alone. Quinn reveals that he's known for awhile that Dexter's a killer but he hasn't said anything because Dexter saved him in the past. Dexter tells Quinn that he's lost the urge to kill and that he's leaving the country with Hannah. Quinn says that he will capture Saxon and kill him. Dexter tells Quinn where he might find him. Quinn tells dexter to hide Hannah and Harrison in his apartment until they can leave. Dexter leaves to do that comes back to the hospital and Deb needs surgery. Quinn finds Saxon and uses Dexter's syringe to knock him out. Quinn takes him to Saxon's hideout and straps him to the chair. Supposedly, there is a back and forth between deb's surgery and Quinn killing saxon with Dexter's knives. Deb dies on the operating table. Quinn arrives and Dexter tells him she's dead. Quinn tells dexter that he saw Elway a couple blocks back and that he will help them escape. They go to dexter's boat, set it on fire and let it go. Quinn tells them to take his car and he'll tell the authorities that he saw the three of them get on the boat. Dexter thanks him. The end.


Again, this could be completely false but it makes sense.
I know a show is bad when I actually don't have a problem reading the finale spoiler - especially with it being so close to airing.

If that spoiler is accurate, it'd be a pretty lame way to end this series - but consistent with how the show been the last few seasons.

mickey65 09-19-13 09:39 PM
Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 
Originally Posted by Neil M. (Post 11840744)
Here's the basic synopsis based off of what I remember: Do not click if you don't want to potentially ruin the ending.

Spoiler:
The basics: Elway being at the airport prevents Dexter from leaving. He looks at his phone and sees that Quinn called him a bunch of times. Quinn tells him that Deb's been shot. He goes to the hospital and Elway shows up, they have a confrontation. Quinn takes him aside and they talk alone. Quinn reveals that he's known for awhile that Dexter's a killer but he hasn't said anything because Dexter saved him in the past. Dexter tells Quinn that he's lost the urge to kill and that he's leaving the country with Hannah. Quinn says that he will capture Saxon and kill him. Dexter tells Quinn where he might find him. Quinn tells dexter to hide Hannah and Harrison in his apartment until they can leave. Dexter leaves to do that comes back to the hospital and Deb needs surgery. Quinn finds Saxon and uses Dexter's syringe to knock him out. Quinn takes him to Saxon's hideout and straps him to the chair. Supposedly, there is a back and forth between deb's surgery and Quinn killing saxon with Dexter's knives. Deb dies on the operating table. Quinn arrives and Dexter tells him she's dead. Quinn tells dexter that he saw Elway a couple blocks back and that he will help them escape. They go to dexter's boat, set it on fire and let it go. Quinn tells them to take his car and he'll tell the authorities that he saw the three of them get on the boat. Dexter thanks him. The end.


Again, this could be completely false but it makes sense.
Actually:

Spoiler:
It's Hannah who jabs Elway with the needle while riding on the bus. In one of the promo clips of the hand on the knee - it's hers. So that rules that part of the Quinn "spoiler" out.

Bill Needle 09-19-13 09:40 PM
Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 
Originally Posted by sleepyhead55 (Post 11839808)
Wouldn't it just be easier to drive to another airport and catch a flight there? There probably aren't as much people watching say the Tampa/St-Pete Airport. Or if they really wanted to be super safe, drive to another state and catch the flight there.
That's what I said to the wife as we watched: "Aren't there roads leading out of Florida? I lived there for a time and seem to recall a few."

Neil M. 09-20-13 12:20 AM
Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 
Originally Posted by mickey65 (Post 11841351)
Actually:

Spoiler:
It's Hannah who jabs Elway with the needle while riding on the bus. In one of the promo clips of the hand on the knee - it's hers. So that rules that part of the Quinn "spoiler" out.
Could you point me to which promo clip you are talking about? I've only seen the main promo and it goes by so fast that I thought it could be
Spoiler:
Quinn jabbing Saxon in the knee
which is one detail from the spoiler that I didn't mention.

stingermck 09-20-13 06:52 AM
Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 
Originally Posted by mickey65 (Post 11841351)
Actually:

Spoiler:
It's Hannah who jabs Elway with the needle while riding on the bus. In one of the promo clips of the hand on the knee - it's hers. So that rules that part of the Quinn "spoiler" out.
Originally Posted by Neil M. (Post 11841472)
Could you point me to which promo clip you are talking about? I've only seen the main promo and it goes by so fast that I thought it could be
Spoiler:
Quinn jabbing Saxon in the knee
which is one detail from the spoiler that I didn't mention.
Spoiler:
44 Second mark

<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/uhkwLY-RsmQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

http://s21.postimg.org/xxs1wx01j/dex.jpg

Mike86 09-20-13 02:31 PM
Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 
Originally Posted by Neil M. (Post 11840744)
Here's the basic synopsis based off of what I remember: Do not click if you don't want to potentially ruin the ending.

Spoiler:
The basics: Elway being at the airport prevents Dexter from leaving. He looks at his phone and sees that Quinn called him a bunch of times. Quinn tells him that Deb's been shot. He goes to the hospital and Elway shows up, they have a confrontation. Quinn takes him aside and they talk alone. Quinn reveals that he's known for awhile that Dexter's a killer but he hasn't said anything because Dexter saved him in the past. Dexter tells Quinn that he's lost the urge to kill and that he's leaving the country with Hannah. Quinn says that he will capture Saxon and kill him. Dexter tells Quinn where he might find him. Quinn tells dexter to hide Hannah and Harrison in his apartment until they can leave. Dexter leaves to do that comes back to the hospital and Deb needs surgery. Quinn finds Saxon and uses Dexter's syringe to knock him out. Quinn takes him to Saxon's hideout and straps him to the chair. Supposedly, there is a back and forth between deb's surgery and Quinn killing saxon with Dexter's knives. Deb dies on the operating table. Quinn arrives and Dexter tells him she's dead. Quinn tells dexter that he saw Elway a couple blocks back and that he will help them escape. They go to dexter's boat, set it on fire and let it go. Quinn tells them to take his car and he'll tell the authorities that he saw the three of them get on the boat. Dexter thanks him. The end.


Again, this could be completely false but it makes sense.
My spoilers contain possible plot points mentioned above so don't click if you don't want to read spoilers.
Spoiler:
Wait what? If this is true Quinn is suddenly turning into a killer now? Seems like a really weird twist to take. I wouldn't mind Quinn revealing to Dexter that he's figured out his secret and stuff like that but if it actually goes the route of him taking Dexter's place it would be pretty laughable if you ask me. That ending with the boat being set on fire by Quinn and him saying that supposedly Dexter, Hannah, and Harrison being on it and perished would be kind of lame too.


Honestly I haven't even watched this episode yet. I'm so disappointed with the way this season has went I just don't even care and it's sad because this Sunday is the finale and I really don't even care that it's over at this point. I'll watch the episodes and probably buy the Blu-ray set when it's out just to complete the series but this show should have went out so much better than it has.

Really interested to read Clyde Phillips' AMA and find out how he would have handled the final seasons. It's a shame that he ever stepped down from the show.

Mike86 09-21-13 02:26 AM
Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 
Originally Posted by Brack (Post 11839411)
That's not what he said; he just would've gone a different direction. He only admitted to the quality of the show had declined.
He didn't outright say that the show went to shit in that AMA because he was being professional, but I think you can tell he really doesn't care for a lot of what's happened on the show since he left and knows that a bunch of people are disappointed in how it turned out compared to the first four seasons. I understand why he left after reading it and it's cool that he put his family first for his own good but damn do I wish that we would have been able to see the direction the show would have taken if he would have stayed around.

Brack 09-21-13 03:37 AM
Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 
Originally Posted by Mike86 (Post 11842698)
He didn't outright say that the show went to shit in that AMA because he was being professional, but I think you can tell he really doesn't care for a lot of what's happened on the show since he left and knows that a bunch of people are disappointed in how it turned out compared to the first four seasons. I understand why he left after reading it and it's cool that he put his family first for his own good but damn do I wish that we would have been able to see the direction the show would have taken if he would have stayed around.
Agreed. The show just kept chugging along, but I found a lot to like about seasons 5 and 6. It was the last two I found a bit strange, though I liked Hannah a lot last season and am glad she returned. The Vogel character was intetesting. The problem I have at times with the show are pointless subplots with the supporting cast. Masuka having a daughter? Who cares. Why waste time with that in the last season?

mickey65 09-21-13 06:28 AM
Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 
A trusted reviewer on IMDB (who has given everyone "previews" of each episode for the last 4 seasons) got to see the finale last night and he states that ALL the rumored finales floating around the internet are false. While he normally gives little spoilers for each show - he wouldn't for the finale. But he didn't give it high marks.

I guess it's all going to be a surprise then!

Blaster1 09-21-13 01:22 PM
Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 
Originally Posted by mickey65 (Post 11842783)
A trusted reviewer on IMDB (who has given everyone "previews" of each episode for the last 4 seasons) got to see the finale last night and he states that ALL the rumored finales floating around the internet are false. While he normally gives little spoilers for each show - he wouldn't for the finale. But he didn't give it high marks.

I guess it's all going to be a surprise then!
Spoiler:
I'm guessing it ends with Dexter on his boat out in the water with the hurricane coming in and you are led to believe he might have died in the hurricane, but it's left open-ended so he could still be alive.

Dragon Tattoo 09-21-13 02:11 PM
Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 
Sounds like it's going to be a surprise. Like when you find shit in your bed.

asianxcore 09-23-13 07:30 PM
Re: Dexter -- "Monkey in a Box" -- 9/15/13
 
FUCKIN' DEXTER!

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