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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
LOL.Are you calling me nuts?
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
Not you. Just the plan. :D
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
I use basic logic when it comes to several issues.
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
Originally Posted by Lt Ripley
(Post 11837502)
To make Jesse want to kill Walt. Suicide by Jesse.
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
Originally Posted by JZ1276
(Post 11837561)
Like I said earlier. I cant understand how some people interpret things. Suicide by Jesse? Really? If Walt wanted to die, he couldve spit in one of the Nazis faces and told them to go F their mothers. Boom, he's dead.
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
Voted in the poll! *fingers crossed*
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
Originally Posted by Fist of Doom
(Post 11837048)
Todd to Walt, after they executed Hank: "Sorry for your loss." :lol: Dude's a complete sociopath.
Loved how they went from the flashback to the firefight. It shows where this show has gone. The first season was pretty much The Wacky Hijinks of Walt and Jesse. Now it's one body blow after another, as all the chickens come home to roost. Watching them drag off Hank and Gomie's bodies - and seeing Marie's reaction to the phone call - were heartbreaking. |
Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
Originally Posted by Dan
(Post 11836605)
One other thing I'd kind of like to see is, while Walt is still "in hiding" or whatever, he actually SEES some meth heads; men, women, teens, etc. and how their lives are destroyed by the drug. He already knows what he's done to people, but it'd be nice for him to get one more reminder of just how many lives are affected by it all. I can't remember how much interaction he's had with plain old users, but he should see what the true cost of his "empire" really is.
Originally Posted by mnementh
(Post 11836917)
I've always wondered why the show focused on meth. I'm surprised that someone involved with a drug empire, especially Gus and Lydia, wouldn't also be involved with MDMA, steroids, and Viagra knock-offs.
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
I read something interesting about the pants Walt passes by in the desert. Other posters in this thread have already mentioned that it was from the first episode. What was interesting though was that it is also why the episode was titled, "Ozymandias".
Ozymandias was a poem written by Percy Shelley about a traveller who encounters a monument while traveling through a desert. The monument was once a giant statue, but all that remains are the legs. The inscription describes a might king, Ozymandias - the king of kings who once ruled over all and struck terror into the hearts of his enemies. Obviously Walter is King Ozymandias, as made clear by the promo video where the poem is recited. The pants are the remaining legs of the statue. They are what remain of what was once a mighty and feared man. And a reminder that everyone, no matter how powerful, always falls. |
Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
Originally Posted by Lt Ripley
(Post 11837562)
He wants to bring them down first....
Just rewatched the episode and even though I understand Walt admitting to everything while he was on the phone with Skylar, why would he go as far as to admit to killing Hank?? |
Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
Originally Posted by JZ1276
(Post 11837689)
Absolutely ridiculous. Walt wanted Jesse dead. It's that simple. That whole mess was all Jesse's fault. Walt does NOT want to die. Why would he go into hiding? You think he hopes Jesse will somehow track him down and kill him?
Originally Posted by JZ1276
(Post 11837689)
Sometimes I wonder how people come to interpret some things they see.
Originally Posted by JZ1276
(Post 11837689)
Well, why would they even need to continue with meth when they have like $70 million? Thats why I was a little confused at the end when Todd was making Jesse show him how to cook.
Originally Posted by JZ1276
(Post 11837689)
That was me who stated they might be working on this together. However, if it does end up that way, I want to make everyone aware that I was the ONLY one who threw that out there.
Originally Posted by JZ1276
(Post 11837689)
Walt was so against killing Jesse, it's almost hard to believe he'd change his mind that fast.
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
Originally Posted by Jimmy James
(Post 11837381)
Finally, who trashes the house and under what circumstances? Is that a red herring we've been reading too much into?
I kept wanting to bump an old thread and post this every time someone speculated about it, but I figured if I did, someone would reply and say "Dude, haven't you watched episode 5 yet? They make it pretty clear that Huell did the graffiti after killing Saul" and I would be totally spoilered. |
Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
Originally Posted by Lt Ripley
(Post 11837707)
Walt's going to die anyway you cut it. Cancer is going to eat away at him. Re-read my statements. I never said Jesse would have to hunt him. Walt has to get the out of town now because of what happened. We already have been shown that he comes back.
Relax man, we are just throwing ideas out about a TV show. This isn't the religion threads. I won't lose any sleep if my idea doesn't come to fruition. |
Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
Originally Posted by JZ1276
(Post 11837770)
thanks
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
Originally Posted by JasonF
(Post 11837765)
Total red herring, IMO. As I've been catching up and reading through old threads, I kept wanting to reply on this. It seemed pretty clear to me that the White house had been abandoned and become a party house for local kids who, knowing the infamous Heisenberg had lived there, graffiti'ed it up.
I guess the neighbor's reaction to seeing WW could be ascribed to the shock of knowing about the amber alert, and probably a very public APB regarding a suspected drug fugitive responsible for murder, manufacture & distribution of a Schedule II substance under the Controlled Substances Act. |
Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
Originally Posted by JZ1276
(Post 11837689)
Just rewatched the episode and even though I understand Walt admitting to everything while he was on the phone with Skylar, why would he go as far as to admit to killing Hank??
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
Originally Posted by BuckNaked2k
(Post 11837803)
I guess the neighbor's reaction to seeing WW could be ascribed to the shock of knowing about the amber alert, and probably a very public APB regarding a suspected drug fugitive responsible for murder, manufacture & distribution of a Schedule II substance under the Controlled Substances Act.
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
With Carol seeing Walt at the house my guess is she calls the police and some random cop ends up killing him as they will want to get him considering Walt is an admitted cop killer.
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
Originally Posted by BrewCrew
(Post 11837869)
With Carol seeing Walt at the house my guess is she calls the police and some random cop ends up killing him as they will want to get him considering Walt is an admitted cop killer.
Love how some think that letting Jane die was the most evil thing Walt did. Wasn't he protecting Jesse from himself? Jessie most likely would have overdosed eventually with Jane. I just feel bad for Jesse. He could have disappeared. But instead he's probably a dead man. And Hank was stupid for not taking things slower with Walt, and telling enough people about his suspicions. |
Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
Originally Posted by BuckNaked2k
(Post 11837803)
I still don't get the fence. To me, that indicated some sort of legal seizure. If the house were paid for through illegal proceeds, (even one mortgage payment), it would be subject to seizure under RICO or some other drug law. The fence indicates it's now a federal asset, pending public auction. Sure, slackers got inside, vandalized it, and turned it into a crash pad.
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
Originally Posted by Coral
(Post 11837816)
Walt is fucked no matter what happens, and by him admitting to killing Hank - it further solidifies the "proof" that Skylar was fearful of Walt the whole time and makes her look even more like an unwilling participant in the whole scheme. Walt was doing everything possible to ensure Skylar and family are protected.
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
Originally Posted by CaptainMarvel
(Post 11837867)
Not just murder. Multiple murders, including murder of law enforcement officers and murder by setting off an explosive in a nursing home. Walt's story would very quickly be all over the news, and there would be a massive manhunt by not just the DEA, but also the ATF and FBI.
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
Originally Posted by Brack
(Post 11837914)
I just feel bad for Jesse. He could have disappeared. But instead he's probably a dead man.
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
Originally Posted by uteotw
(Post 11837967)
I don't feel bad for him, but this is a good point: The van was right there, ready to take him away to a new identity and a new life someplace else. But his desire for vengeance was his downfall, something that would likely cross his mind as he cooking on that dog-run leash thing.
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Re: Breaking Bad -- "Ozymandias" -- 9/15/13
As much as I enjoy this show, I think many people gloss over the fact that Walt and Jesse didn't have to make meth in the first place. They basically dug their own graves and everything else is a direct result. Neither really deserve any sympathy.
I'm also dense and didn't quite grasp that Walt was protecting his family with his phone call. I thought the tears were from him being torn between his own ego and his feelings about them. But him protecting them makes so much more sense that I'm not sure why I missed it the first time. A helluva scene either way. |
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