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Jeremy is apparently not happy with the BB house this season. According to Jokers he said, "the house was Jewed down this year."

Ok, now it's personal.

As offensive as Aaryn and GM have been, Jeremy's behavior and language might end up being so bad that he'll become the main target for fan hate after the season. Probably depends on how long each of these horrible people lasts.

Natalie must be happy about this season, while Evel Dick must be jealous.

Really don't want to see Helen or Elissa leave so soon.

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Maybe they'll give Elissa the "Jeff Schroeder Coup D'etat" special power if they think she's in danger.

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I never would have expected Rachel's sister to be one of the most likeable people in the house. Not that it means much in this house.......

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POV was held today.



So if I had to guess will go home this week.

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She's not really even all that likeable. It's just the people who oppose her are far worse. So help me, it's how I wound up rooting for Rachel the last time she played.

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Exactly. That's why I'm rooting for her, -just because she bugs the hell out of players I hate , which is an awful lot of them this time (particularly Aryan and Jeremy).

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FYI - Amanda was going around topless with band aids covering her nipples last night. If you have the feeds you might was to check out around 11:04pm on July 7.

Also BB had a nice zing for her at 11:31PM camera 4.

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BB15 Bigotry Supercut

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3sIaYUxOLs

Deplorable.

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This is really bad stuff and I'm not sure Allison is going to have a place to hide at the end of this season. There's no way it's a coincidence that 11 people out of the cast are this horrible. It's all about casting and it kind of already looks like they're trying to put most of it on Aaryn and the rest on Jeremy, but they're all REALLY, REALLY bad. I'm not easily offended and an inappropriate word like "retard" will often get a pass from me, but it's just the amount of hate speech in that house is beyond belief. It makes the MTV people look good...really good.

Low ratings and this controversy might be enough to bury this show. Otherwise, they might be smart to try and make people forget about this season by doing an all-stars next season. The only person who really stands a chance to go far who's decent is Howard. Candice, Helen and Elissa (out next) face long odds when even if the Moving Company cracks later on, the people straggling around will likely be GM or Aaryn or Amanda and they're horrible, horrible people.

If things continue this way, they might not actually have a live audience that they can trust to cheer these pieces of human garbage. These people are in for a huge shock when they get out. This will follow them around for a long time.

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Do you think most people know how horrid it has gotten? I dont have live feeds and if not for this thread, would not have a clue. I'm hoping it explodes to a point where the show is forced to do something. I think this cast has made me lose the fun of watching this show. When you get this much scum, its more gut wrenching to watch then enjoyable. It's like they purposely have taken this cast to an extreme of unwatchable people. It used to be my guilty pleasure.. Now it's all guilt in watching and no pleasure knowing what I know.

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I really wish they would just eject Aaryn, GinaMarie, Spencer and Jeremy from the game and try to salvage the season. There are others guilty as well, but these are the main offenders and with them gone, the house would be a better place.

I know they won't do this, but it may be the only way to salvage and somewhat redeem this season, and perhaps the future, of Big Brother. I believe it will cost them more in the long run if they do nothing.

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I think McCrae, Andy and especially Judd aren't that bad either. Also, Jessie and Nick don't seem to be awful people; they're just a little shallow. Kaitlyn even has a heart in there too somewhere (though hooking up with Jeremy is indefensible).

I'm not a fan of Amanda, but it is important when viewing all of her "jewish" jokes to remember that she is Jewish. That gives her a bit of a pass.

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I'm Jewish too and I'm not willing to give Amanda a pass. Yes, we can make "jew" comments a bit more freely, but she's gone well beyond what's acceptable and her behavior is hardly limited to only "jew" comments.

Andy and Jessie, so far, seem to be ok but I didn't want to lump them in quite yet with the people who do seem to definitely get that you can trash talk and be outrageous, it's Big Brother after all, without doing the just shockingly horrible things we saw in that video, which unlike many videos, doesn't make things worse than they really are, but, rather, is just a sampling of how terrible this group is. I thought the season of sex was awful, this is actually worse. There really is no fun this summer.

McCrae and Nick are not as bad as the others and not as good as Andy and Jessie, but they are going along with, laughing at and seemingly enjoying too much what the others are doing to be left off the hook at this point. Surprisingly, I think what I've seen shows Nick has shown more restraint and common sense than McCrae, who may be going along because he wants to fit in (and not just Amanda).

I actually do think this season seems like a tipping point. I heard somewhere today that the Cherokee Nation put out a statement about Jeremy. And how much longer before sponsors get involved? People are actually writing letters and things that I don't think I've ever seen during any other season. This isn't the same thing as people complaining for years that competitions have been rigged or people have been allowed to cheat or helped.

And what's going to stop it? I know it's early, but it does look right now like this might be a season where the horrible people steamroll through the nice people. The ugly talk will only get worse if these people get more cocky...if that's even possible. Considering how bad it already is, I'm thinking they're going to "cheat" again and tell some of these people in the DR to tone it down. There's no doubt that the last edit was Allison's attempt to "apologize" to the people saying CBS and Big Brother weren't talking this serious by not actually showing the ugly talk during the tv edits. But they really focused on making Aaryn the villain. She seems to be the worst, but not by a lot. Can you imagine if they played even 1/2 of what was shown in that youtube clip?

If they don't settle down, I could see someone evicted for "speech" for the first time ever this season. The only person who has a clue is "Black Candice" and I think she has very little chance to survive deep into this game.

I really see this getting worse and worse. Unless they go into full panic mode and start tipping people off. I just don't known if Aaryn or Jeremy or guy with beard can even help themselves. If Elissa, Helen, Andy and Candice are gone, do you really see anyone left that you genuinely want to root for? If Howard wasn't super religious, I think he probably would be leading a revolt by now because he clearly gets what's going on, but so far he's incredibly tolerant.

Natalie and that nurse from Vegas who screwed team Janelle/Kaysar must LOVE Aaryn. They're the only ones, though. I'm not even reading updates over at Jokers. My first posts about the show were so different. Ugly behavior can truly make people look ugly and right now, there's not even any eye candy in the house. NONE.

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Julie Chen talked about it on her wannabe the View show today. She said that the Aaryn stuff only made the air b/c it was affecting the game. I haven't watched Sunday's show yet, but I don't really view it as having affected the game in any tangible way. In some ways to me, the misogyny (Spencer & Jeremy primarily) feels just as bad as the racism/homophobia.

You didn't mention Judd in your message. I have been very impressed with the kind of man that Judd appears to be. The problem with confronting people is that it puts a huge target on you in a game like this. The ones talking are primarily the more immature. You can't win an arguement with someone like that, and all you do is make yourself look bad.

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I don't trust Julie Chen's opinion on anything.

Also, the only way to not have stuff like this happen is to do a better job casting the show. Even season has had it's share of idiots, crazies, people who said and did horrible things, but never has it been this out of balance.

The only way it can be handled inside the house without putting a huge target on your back is to have a couple of alpha males who aren't lunatics in the cast who would be able to confront the issue AND be able to back it up with game-play be aligning themselves up with people in the house who have enough votes to stand seriously threaten the idiots. There really is no other side of the house this year.

I'd be very surprised if the "nice" or just "nicer" people don't get steamrolled. Aaryn and several of the other girls have no idea that, aside from being offensive people, they're playing the game in a manner that really is making it easy for the moving company. They seem interested in taking out the weak (asian girl, black girl, "queer") and the only hope for that to change is if ANYONE else listens to Candice, who has a real clue of how to play, or figures out the boys are running things and the girls are being girls and just hating on one another.

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Well, earlier today Amanda tried to talk to Aaryn about some of her comments that other houseguests are perceiving as being racist. Of course, Aaryn made herself the victim and blamed Candice. I'm sure that will be her go to move once she gets out of the house as well.

In other news, Jeremy and Kaitlin apparently had sex the other night. That ought to expedite Kaitlin's leaving b/c that's really all he wanted from her. The quicker she leaves the quicker he can make his next move on Aaryn.

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Racism aside, Aaryn has some awful vocal fry going when she talks. Annoys the hell out of me just to listen to her.

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Me too. It's awful.

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Aaryn will have no go to move when she gets out of the house. Unless a lot of things change, and she's simply not capable of doing it, she will leave that house the most hated person in BB history. ED was and still is an jack*ss, but he is who he is and some of it is an act because these people want to be revered as celebrities. Natalie is largely forgotten and the nurse is completely forgotten. But the times have changed. People are meaner and it's easier to "punish" people we see on tv.

I'm not overly sympathetic to Aaryn, but she's going to need to hunker down somewhere and keep her mouth shut. Issue an apology written by a publicist or family attorney and just go away. I mean, this cast is already worse than the perverted sex season. Even if you give some people the benefit of the doubt, half of that house has already come of as worse than any other cast.

But if she thinks she can blame things on Candice and Helen, wow, she's going need to hide out in a Russian airport longer than that Snowden guy.

Jeremy and Kaitlin did what? Ewwwww.....

Now that's something I don't mind if they edit out.

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It depends on how long Aaryn lasts in the season. If she goes home next week then no one will really remember her. They don't really remember Braden "Beaner" Bacha from BB11.

Natalie will be hard to beat. Aaryn has to at least get to top five.

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I think she has Natalie beaten already. If you're just talking tv villain, then ok, not really. If you're talking about a real public backlash, then Aaryn is toast.

Natalie avoided Vegas to avoid being heckled and harassed. Aaryn will need to steer clear of anyplace public outside of her own hometown for a while.

I think Aaryn will last. I think the house dynamics are pretty strong for her right now. She's not a threat to anyone in the alliance as of now and if the weaker group of stragglers wins any HOH, they'd be wasting it to target her just because she says terrible things. They'd need to focus on the boys. Anything can happen, but she doesn't appear to be in trouble unless someone wastes a HOH targeting her just out of anger and not out of strategy. Getting Elissa out now is not going to help Aaryn long term, she used her HOH to get out the girl she blames for her boyfriend leaving. If she didn't use her brain to make racist comments, she might have seen an alliance with Helen and Elissa and Andy and Candice (and assuming Jessie would join) would have been quite capable of putting a big shock into the Moving Company's plans. In fact, right now, I just checked Jokers for the first time since the show and Aaryn's position in the house is actually better than I expected, but she's hanging with the bad crowd. Kaitlin makes me want to vomit. When she get's out and sees the reaction to Jeremy, she's in for a shocker too. I mean, most of these girls make Lydia seem like Cinderella or Snow White or The Little Mermaid.

The MVP will go to Helen next and then to Candice next. Judd seems to be pretty popular, but I don't know if he'll get enough votes to surpass either one of those two because he really won't shake things up and AG will have something to say about the vote totals.

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Aaryn is just a racist Regina George. It's bs saying they airred her racism Sunday because it had nothing to do with her HOH they airred simply because of pressure people put on them . People in the house hate her as HOH cause she is a mean mean girl. Spencer denegrading Hurricane Katrina victims and praising Nazi's and still getting a "mastermind" edit and his awful behaivor being swept under the rug is something I hope the media calls CBS to task for when the season ends.

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This season is just turning into a replay of season 12, with "The Moving Company" taking over for "The Brigade." And that was a boring-assed season.

I know this is sort of 'cheating' but I'd love it if they gave Elissa a secret "flip the vote" power somehow that reverse the eviction vote, and Nick would get voted out 8-3 or whatever, and then watch everyone in TMC flip out.

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Aryan (which is how I'm pronouncing her name) specifically said to Howard tonight on AD that she is not only not a racist but she's never said anything racist in the house to begin with. Which Howard knows is BS cause he's heard her say it.

When she is eventually evicted from the house, they seriously need to play the montage of her comments right there during the Julie Chen interview and she really needs to take her to task live on national TV. None of this "We're going to wait till the game ends" stuff. Start throwing her to the wolves early! Spencer too.