Isn't Thursday a double live elimination? McCrae & Amanda may both just be moving to jury house together.

Amanda is telling Spencer to vote her out and let McCrae stay, since McCrae will do better without her there

Now Amanda is telling GinaMarie that she doesn't care about the game anymore and that she's only so upset because she's in love with McCrae and can't think about being apart from him

Andy is still kissing up to Amanda and he and Spencer are planning on throwing the veto. He is so worried about getting blood on his hands. Elissa doesn't trust Andy and Judd is trying to convince her otherwise... so Judd is still in the dark about Andy. Why can't they see him for what he is??? Listen to the Zingbot, people!

I hope we have a final three of Judd, Elissa and GinaMarie.

GinaMarie has been a total "badass bitch" (her own words) today. She can certainly handle herself in verbal confrontations, even when it's with someone who terrifies everyone else. Who would've thought she'd make the boldest and best game move in weeks?

In a way, I'd like to see McCrae win the $500,000 and then dump Amanda on the live show.

Dan was right last night, Amanda might be a psycho bitch, but she at least was playing the game. Not very well, but playing. Andy is horrible, but the rest of them are all kind of mini-floaters too. Having 2 members of an alliance throwing a veto should tell everyone else that those 2 people have to go. But no one even seems to get that.

Judd has the right ideas, but he can't see anything that's going on. I like Elissa, but she really has very little social game.

That said, this whole idea that she doesn't need the money really bugs me. I can see why a guy like Jimmie Johnson would be a target based on his extreme wealth going on Survivor, but just because Elissa is further ahead in her life doesn't mean she's so wealthy she should be looked down for it.

Again, her social game isn't good. She only wants to share things about her life and be accepted, Andy and Judd and Spencer do more of trying to get others to approve of them (especially Andy), but even though buying a small hockey rink in Canada is liking buying a nice cabin up north if you live in Michigan (where I grew up and where a lot of not rich people own places up north), you just can't tell people things like that. I empathize with Elissa, but she even talks too much about Amanda harassing her. Even though those weasels are all part of enabling Amanda (especially Andy), you also can't keep repeating the same things to houseguests over and over and over again and hope to have them enjoy your company and want to work with you.

I only want Amanda to get the boot now so that she can get booed. If she comes out next and tells Julie she was pretending to be mean, didn't think that she was mean or that she didn't care about the money, the audience reaction for Aaryn will seem friendly by comparison.

Truly a huge group of idiots this season as far as game-play goes.

Amanda is a psychopath, so her downfall will be enjoyable to watch, but that snake Andy, the coward floater with the pale skin who's bashing Elissa but refuses to even make a bold move on his own and has ratted out just about everybody AND who seems to have NO idea about how he's being perceived is in for a major shocker.

He came into this game, much like Helen, hoping to make a big name for himself as a super fan and great player and person and he's going to leave the game as one of the worst players or certainly in the bottom 1/2 at least and one of the least popular players in a season chock full of Amanda, Aaryn, GM, Jeremy, Kaitlin and that gross perv Spencer.

NO!!!!!

He's disgusting too and he won't dump her. Assuming she doesn't get locked into an asylum after this, I think they'll actually last even longer because of how bad she's going to get it. He's the type who is going to want to seem loyal and protect her and she's the kind of woman who'd use someone to help them get through a tough time, only to dump them as soon as things finally level out.

Andy Commenting about how noticeable Florida is on a world map.

Him and Spencer talking about the sizes of states.

GinaMarie has broken a toe.

I don't like Andy at all but he is probably one of the all time best social players in BB history and had in's with almost everyone. Game wise its impressive he was able to carry an unlikeable showmance this far and had almost singlehandily cockblocked a good 3-4 attempts to take them out. He has actually been fairly succesful and positioned himself in a much safer spot then Shelley who's rat game he is emulating . With 7 players left only Elissa has figured out his rat ways. Him throwing veto isn't even remotely a bad plan for him this round because he needs to keep whoever survives btwn Amanda/McCrae on his side since one of them could easily win the next HOH. The only bad part is he is alerting people he is throwing he should just subtly throw it and tell no one.

I hate the guy, but you said it yourself. Andy isn't subtle. It's so obvious what he's been doing and I know it's easy to just say this cast is full of bad players and idiots, but pretty much everyone agrees with this. People in this forum and ex-players and feeders. How Elissa could be the only one to see this is beyond me. He might have started off really well socially, but I attribute a lot of what he's done to just having no one really good at this game.

Helen was one of the best players this season and she not only didn't catch on to Andy, she believed McCrae would leave Amanda to make an alliance with her. I can't even repeat it enough times just how stupid that was and she truly knew the game of BB. Her being overly aggressive (not in a mean way like Amanda, but definitely not subtle) was another HUGE weakness in her game.

I don't like to put myself in other people's shoes. I don't ever say knock people who play Survivor or TAR and act like from my couch that I can pretend it's that easy, but I see myself in the cast being the best player in the house. I've never made any kind of comment like that in all the years we've had these BB threads. And it's not because I think I'm great, it's because this group is just really stupid. Even the fact that with the sort of hints Julie's given about how they're being perceived, most of these people just continue to do the same things over and over and over again.

If anyone has a really great plan to get to the F2, I'm not seeing it. Sure, I admit that I also just don't like Andy's game too, but he's been able to get away with murder in the sense that what he's doing is obvious. If he bounced around like he has in almost any other past seasons, he'd be gone. Openly talking about throwing a veto that only helps you, but doesn't show your a team player. If I heard him say that, I'd gather the rest of the group and he'd be the first to go after, hopefully, they eliminate McCranda. Yet it seems like Judd and Spencer trust him more than GM and Elissa. Honestly, whatever you think of GM and Elissa, I think they're pretty loyal. I don't think GM is even thinking about anything but staying with her alliance. Which is good, but shows at the same time that she's content and not planning ahead and looking at what's going on right in front of her.

Elissa might not trust Andy, but I'm not sure she can convince anyone but GM unless Judd opens his eyes. That's why I can't ever get on the Judd boat. I want to like him, but I keep wanting him to say something like, "Andy, can't throw veto without making the rest of us look bad, I can't really trust someone at this point who's so blatantly looking out for himself over his alliance." But he doesn't even notice. Elissa's so giddy that Amanda's leaving, I bet she'll slack off too.

Finally, for a guy who said he finally decided to leave the McCranda alliance when Amanda was terrorizing Elissa (when it had been obvious even to Aaryn much earlier that Amanda was awful, Aaryn was just afraid to go against her), this is the kind of thing he says. Is this really better than Aaryn using the word queer (Amanda's used words like it 100x more often than Aaryn and it will never come up)?

Fri 9:55 PM BBT Andy tells McCrae and Amanda that all the while he was talking to Elissa he wanted to say to her, "You're a f*cking c*nt" NT -

When you're trying to win $500K, dont go around telling people you own a fuckin Hockey Arena ... dumb broad
Elyssa is so materialistic it's gross. It's all about material things and money with her.

Can BB please tell Lennon and Yoko to get the fuck out of bed ! I swear that's all those Two do is lay in bed unless there is a comp.

The fact that Andy can float from side to side and everyone is oblivious to it is just Gold. How stupid are these people.

Going back to Amanda.

As it stands right now, I wouldn't feel good about voting for anyone who's in the house. Elissa is nice, but like you mentioned she has such poor judgement in game play/social skills I cringe. I still don't think she's that materialistic. All the girls were catty this season and this is her way of trying to get attention. Only this season would that still make her the best female left in the house.

Spencer might actually watch child porn.

GM is awful, but she's kinda been fun to watch lately. I can't look past the things she's done anymore than I can with Aaryn and Amanda, but if she would stop talking about Nick, I might pull for her.

If McCrae was a good man, Amanda has sucked out the good and the man.

I so want Judd to do something that's a little less obvious than realizing Amanda is evil. Maybe notice what Andy's doing and get the floater out. But I have no faith in him.

Andy is my least favorite houseguest this season other than Amanda. I want to believe Aaryn will learn and Jeremy and Kaitlin left too soon for me to care. So Andy going during the double eviction would be heavenly, but it will never happen.

If the second half of McCranda goes during the double eviction and Elissa is still in the house (mean an exterminator got exterminated), then I could possibly see GM pair up with Elissa until the end. But I don't think E and GM are thinking ahead, as they should be, at routes all the way till the end more than those of us posting here.

I lost what little respect I had for GinaMarie when she was talking all that crap to Candice. There's playing the game and there's going way too far on a personal level. I'm still rooting for Judd who seems to be oblivious as to what's going on. Amanda is sickening and it is sad she thinks she's doing herself favors by acting that way. Don't get it at all!!!

I'm still sort of baffled as to how Amanda managed to win that veto. She's so uncoordinated, slow-witted, and out of shape that I'm surprised she could make ten in a row, let alone 250.

Maybe there is something to the conspiracy theory that Amanda is a ringer and pre-selected winner.

If Judd hadn't gotten winded after 10, I think he would have been tough to beat.

I think McCrae is a good guy, and for most of the season he had a really strong handle on things in the house. His simple advice to others was if you wanted live feeders to like you then you just be nice b/c they see it all.

I struggle with when he turned into such a lifeless lump, and I think it goes back to Judd's eviction. Prior to that he was playing a great game, and Judd was not only his best friend in the house he was an important strategic ally to McCrae. More than any of them, he KNEW Amanda's reasoning was all BS, and he still let it happen. He hasn't been the same since. The last few weeks Amanda and McCrae's whole game has been waiting for Andy to come tell them stuff.

Smoking is bad for you.

Maybe they gave her a double dose of her Adderall before the comp, since it is an amphetamine and increases focus. (Elissa has complained before about Amanda taking it, saying it gave her an unfair advantage... although we certainly haven't seen that in previous comps.)

McCrae, who was named the target of Andy, Judd, Ginamarie and Spencer earlier today, just won POV. Spencer volunteering to be pawn taking M's place on block next to Amanda.

Aaryn takes it, too, and I believe some questions were floated about that, -could she have been saving them and double-dipping before comps. If I understand correctly, Production started handing out meds in the DR to keep an eye on things.

You really shouldn't cast a show where 1/2 the houseguests are on Adderall and the other 1/2 are on Xanax.

<iframe width="480" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/OomuVgcos50" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

The house finally makes a move on Amanda and tonight she's back to bullying Elissa and not one single person has the integrity, courage or willingness to lose her jury vote (when everone in the Jury except McCrae will want to distance themselves from Amanda).

These are really weak people and they're going to regret it when the show is over. And I'd be saying this if she was tormenting anyone. Horrible person, but very sad no one will speak up especially when she's on the block.

Wow, GM looks like she's going to edge Judd for #2 on the Jokers poll for today and also it appears Andy will finish 16th by just a hair over Amanda, who's really owned that bottom spot for a long time.

Wow, hasn't anyone who has been the target the last 4 weeks or so, won veto?

GM is up in popularity since it may be her reign that finally got rid of Amanda. Andy is the worst of the worst, but no one is more despicable than Amanda, Horrible Human Being. Thursday can't get here fast enough and those Boos better be loud and long.