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Old 05-13-13, 10:12 AM
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Bear and the Maiden Fair" -- 5/12/13

Well I liked the bear scene - I did not read the books.

The bear looked real to me, and I had no idea how they would escape without killing the bear.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Bear and the Maiden Fair" -- 5/12/13

I did enjoy Tywin punk that little shit Joffrey. As soon as he walks in to the throne room I was like someone is going get slapped in the mouth. Loved how they shot the scene too. Joffrey sitting on the chair, can't even make eye contact, while Tywin just stands over him shooting daggers at him and basically punking him.

It was also good to see Bronn back cracking wise with the dwarf.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Bear and the Maiden Fair" -- 5/12/13

Originally Posted by Decker
Yeah, that line popped into my head as well.

Not my favorite episode at all. Too jumpy, no flow. Not enjoying Theon's Mutilation of the Week; not even nice nudity is helping it for me. I hope that's not what the book readers are meaning when I'm told it will pay off eventually. Also thought the Dany stuff was a little illogical. That town gave her exactly what she needed, so why does she want to play Lincoln of Easteros? Just go already! Probably my least favorite episode of the season, and it's the one written by Martin.
Fail. It's called Essos.
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I thought it was alright, it kind of showed Jamie taking control again, coming out of the entire self-pitying morose mood he's been in.
Agreed.

Glad Arya is finally out of the Brotherhood's camp, and that Gendry knows the truth about his sperm-donor.
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Originally Posted by Why So Blu?
It was also good to see Bronn back cracking wise with the dwarf.
One of my few disappointments with this season is the lack of shenanigans involving Tyrion and Bronn.
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Originally Posted by B.A.
One of my few disappointments with this season is the lack of shenanigans involving Tyrion and Bronn.
Well, if you've seen Ripper Street, you know that you can't keep any character played by Jerome Flynn away from the prostitutes for long.

I thought for a moment that Bronn was going to offer to act as Tyrion's substitute with Sansa if Tyrion had such major objections to bedding her. Just to keep Shae happy.
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I thought the bear scene was pretty great. I was hoping Jamie (wait, am I rooting for Jamie now?) would toss that dude in with his one good arm.

Dany is a badass. That's why she didn't compromise. She has dragons.

I thought the episode was decent. They have to jump around to all the different storylines so it seems disjointed sometimes.

Hypothetically speaking, couldn't Joffrey just have Tywin's head chopped off if he mouths off like that?
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Bear and the Maiden Fair" -- 5/12/13

Did is strike anyone as odd (besides just to me), that Melisandre and Gendry would be taking a leisurely boat ride along the shore of King's Landing and through the remains of the Battle of Blackwater? I'm sure their boat lacked any obvious banners revealing the allegiance to Stannis, but even so...

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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Bear and the Maiden Fair" -- 5/12/13

Originally Posted by CRM114
Hypothetically speaking, couldn't Joffrey just have Tywin's head chopped off if he mouths off like that?
Joffrey got away with threatening his mother but he's clearly out of his league with respect his grandfather. Tywin's slow, ponderous steps toward Joffrey got that point across with Joffrey recoiling in the Iron Throne.
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Originally Posted by Thos19

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Originally Posted by Decker
Also thought the Dany stuff was a little illogical. That town gave her exactly what she needed, so why does she want to play Lincoln of Easteros? Just go already!
Don't forget that her army is comprised of freed slaves who follow her by choice. She leads through strength of purpose and charisma. If she starts ignoring other slaves along the way, her attraction diminishes. She might lose her army if she doesn't stick to her beliefs.

The town tried to buy her off. She refused. The audience wasn't the town elder, but her army.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Bear and the Maiden Fair" -- 5/12/13

Originally Posted by CRM114
Hypothetically speaking, couldn't Joffrey just have Tywin's head chopped off if he mouths off like that?
He could try, but I don't know that he has anyone under his control with enough moxie to do it for him. The Hound might have done it.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Bear and the Maiden Fair" -- 5/12/13

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Don't forget that her army is comprised of freed slaves who follow her by choice. She leads through strength of purpose and charisma. If she starts ignoring other slaves along the way, her attraction diminishes. She might lose her army if she doesn't stick to her beliefs.

The town tried to buy her off. She refused. The audience wasn't the town elder, but her army.
Plus, what if only a fraction of those 200,000 slaves decide to join her cause? Every soldier and support person helps.
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Originally Posted by wishbone
Joffrey got away with threatening his mother but he's clearly out of his league with respect his grandfather. Tywin's slow, ponderous steps toward Joffrey got that point across with Joffrey recoiling in the Iron Throne.
Thats why I said "hypothetically" - he has the power as "King" to do so, doesn't he? Ned Stark had some sort of standing, didn't he?
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I thought the bear scene was pretty great. I was hoping Jamie (wait, am I rooting for Jamie now?) would toss that dude in with his one good arm.

Dany is a badass. That's why she didn't compromise. She has dragons.

I thought the episode was decent. They have to jump around to all the different storylines so it seems disjointed sometimes.

Hypothetically speaking, couldn't Joffrey just have Tywin's head chopped off if he mouths off like that?
sure, if he actually wasn't a cowardly dipshit. And if he thought he could order it and have the kingsguard get to him before tywin took 2 steps and beat the tar out of him.
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Originally Posted by CRM114
Thats why I said "hypothetically" - he has the power as "King" to do so, doesn't he? Ned Stark had some sort of standing, didn't he?
ned pretty much had nothing after robert died. His mistake was not realizing it.
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So why doesn't Tywin just snap his neck and assume the throne? Why all the pussyfooting?
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Bear and the Maiden Fair" -- 5/12/13

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sure, if he actually wasn't a cowardly dipshit. And if he thought he could order it and have the kingsguard get to him before tywin took 2 steps and beat the tar out of him.
There was a very revealing moment during Tywin's entrance to the throne room. He gets half way in with two Kingsguard right on his heels. He pauses. then resumes walking and the kingsguard stay put.

It was a subtle little reminder to Joffery that Tywin is in charge, as the kingsguard should have never let anyone that close to Joffery alone.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Bear and the Maiden Fair" -- 5/12/13

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So why doesn't Tywin just snap his neck and assume the throne? Why all the pussyfooting?
Because Tywin has absolutely no legitimate claim to the throne?

Becayse Tywin would be guilty of the most heinous crime in Westeros?
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Bear and the Maiden Fair" -- 5/12/13

And because he doesn't want to be king. He's right where he wants to be.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Bear and the Maiden Fair" -- 5/12/13

Did Robert Baratheon? Did the Mad King? I'm a little unclear on the back story but it sounds like Dany is the true Queen, no? Isn't it kind of a free for all period?
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Bear and the Maiden Fair" -- 5/12/13

Originally Posted by CRM114
So why doesn't Tywin just snap his neck and assume the throne? Why all the pussyfooting?
well, he most likely doesn't want it. He realizes he has the power anyway, and without all the problems that come from being king.

And like tommy says, you can't just kill the king because he's an asshole. (well, unless you are jaime)
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Bear and the Maiden Fair" -- 5/12/13

And Tywin mentioned previously that he's building his legacy.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- "The Bear and the Maiden Fair" -- 5/12/13

Sure, but doesn't everyone that is anyone know at the this point that Joffrey isn't a Baratheon?


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