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Old 06-04-12, 05:56 PM
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Re: Game of Thrones -- 70 Minute Season Finale -- "Valar Morghulis" -- 6/03/12
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I haven't read the books, but seems obvious to me that that is not a normal human skull. It's WAY bigger if he's wearing it on the outside. Giant?
Ding ding ding!
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Re: Game of Thrones -- 70 Minute Season Finale -- "Valar Morghulis" -- 6/03/12
Oh, and another thing I disliked:

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showing that Theon was being taken alive . You are left to wonder for quite some time in the books if he survived. They only mention in passing that he did in three


In all honesty, he is such an annoying character that I hope he is left on the bench for a while.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- 70 Minute Season Finale -- "Valar Morghulis" -- 6/03/12
Originally Posted by hahn
I wondered this same thing when we first saw Jaqen. I figured Syrio killed the guards, changed his face, then became a prisoner on purpose as a way to get out of King's Landing. A man with Jaqen's skills doesn't seem like he's likely to get caught unless he wanted to.
As I understand it, the Syrio & Jaqen is a common one.
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The author hasn't flat out said that Syrio died, he has heavily implied it. I think it is odd he keeps dodging the question by saying things like Syrio was good, but he was also unarmed. He even got annoyed at one convention when the question came up and said that Syrio wasn't immortal and a guy with a stick won't win against a guy in armor with a sword. But... he didn't say he died and thus could have been put in the dungeons.


I've been trying to avoid spoilers, but I did risk it and look that one up.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- 70 Minute Season Finale -- "Valar Morghulis" -- 6/03/12
Originally Posted by Thrush
Yep, I thought it was made pretty clear what Halfhand was doing and why. He told Jon that 1 man on the inside would be worth 10,000 on the wall. To that end he gave up his life.
And it was repeated in the PREVIOUSLY ON.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- 70 Minute Season Finale -- "Valar Morghulis" -- 6/03/12
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As I understand it, the Syrio & Jaqen is a common one.
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The author hasn't flat out said that Syrio died, he has heavily implied it. I think it is odd he keeps dodging the question by saying things like Syrio was good, but he was also unarmed. He even got annoyed at one convention when the question came up and said that Syrio wasn't immortal and a guy with a stick won't win against a guy in armor with a sword. But... he didn't say he died and thus could have been put in the dungeons.


I've been trying to avoid spoilers, but I did risk it and look that one up.
And in the books
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Syrio had agreed to return to Winterfell and continue Arya's training. In the show they had the scene where Ned watches her dancing lessons and hears war sounds in his head. Maybe he made Syrio swear to train her to survive
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Re: Game of Thrones -- 70 Minute Season Finale -- "Valar Morghulis" -- 6/03/12
Originally Posted by Navinabob
As I understand it, the Syrio & Jaqen is a common one.
There are all kinds of fan theories kicking around out there.

A while back I read one that claims Ned Stark is still alive. Which is sort of plausible considering the way the book tells the story through POV characters, but the series made it very clear that Ned Stark was, indeed, beheaded.

There's also a very popular - and possible - theory regarding Jon Snow's parentage, though I wouldn't be surprised if Martin abandoned it if he was planning on using since everyone seems to have figured it out.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- 70 Minute Season Finale -- "Valar Morghulis" -- 6/03/12
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I haven't read the books, but seems obvious to me that that is not a normal human skull. It's WAY bigger if he's wearing it on the outside. Giant?
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Ding ding ding!
If that's the case than my idea of how big the giants are really needs to be reevaluated. The wall was created to keep out the giants, so when I think of giants, I think:

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Re: Game of Thrones -- 70 Minute Season Finale -- "Valar Morghulis" -- 6/03/12
I read that George RR Martin told D.B. Weis and David Benioff the ending already in case he kicks the bucket. Pretty nice of him.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- 70 Minute Season Finale -- "Valar Morghulis" -- 6/03/12
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If that's the case than my idea of how big the giants are really needs to be reevaluated. The wall was created to keep out the giants, so when I think of giants, I think:

I don't know if this needs to be spoilered or not, but the "giants" in this universe are more or less what we would think of as a
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bigfoot.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- 70 Minute Season Finale -- "Valar Morghulis" -- 6/03/12
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I read that George RR Martin told D.B. Weis and David Benioff the ending already in case he kicks the bucket. Pretty nice of him.
Is he unwell? Or just being extra careful?
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Re: Game of Thrones -- 70 Minute Season Finale -- "Valar Morghulis" -- 6/03/12
Originally Posted by CKMorpheus
If that's the case than my idea of how big the giants are really needs to be reevaluated. The wall was created to keep out the giants, so when I think of giants, I think:
The wall was created to keep out the White Walkers, not giants.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- 70 Minute Season Finale -- "Valar Morghulis" -- 6/03/12
Note that I deleted the spoiler tags and any text that may be called a spoiler (BTW, it's not really one, IMO) and just left this section...
Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
...This is foreshadowed this episode with the three men who killed and raped the women and hung their bodies from trees.
Did they do those in that order?
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Re: Game of Thrones -- 70 Minute Season Finale -- "Valar Morghulis" -- 6/03/12
Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
I don't know if this needs to be spoilered or not, but the "giants" in this universe are more or less what we would think of as a
Spoiler:
bigfoot.
I think some but not all take that appearance. I visualized them as
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like the wrestlers Andre the Giant and Big Show. Not Giants per se, but really large men. They could be easy to pull off in the series, just use forced perspective to make them appear taller.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- 70 Minute Season Finale -- "Valar Morghulis" -- 6/03/12
Originally Posted by DeputyDave
I was confused by the sack of Winterfell as well. I agree that a non-book reader could not have known that. It was a great episode and that was my only issue with it.
I still don't understand why everything needs to be revealed/explained. This could be resolved in the first 5 minutes of Episode 1 - Season 3.

Also, the show has been pretty good at keeping things from the POV of various characters. With Theon knocked out and the kids in the crypt, we lost our "POV" in Winterfell. THEY don't know what happened...so why should the viewers know?
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Re: Game of Thrones -- 70 Minute Season Finale -- "Valar Morghulis" -- 6/03/12
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Ding ding ding!
Nice of you to confirm the answer to the question that you "didn't answer" that the guy asked you not to in the first place.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- 70 Minute Season Finale -- "Valar Morghulis" -- 6/03/12
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Nice of you to confirm the answer to the question that you "didn't answer" that the guy asked you not to in the first place.
Relax please. The original question is whether we would ever see them. The fact that the wildling soldier was wearing a giant skull doesn't answer that question. Dr. DVD was just confirming what it was.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- 70 Minute Season Finale -- "Valar Morghulis" -- 6/03/12
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Nice of you to confirm the answer to the question that you "didn't answer" that the guy asked you not to in the first place.
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Relax please. The original question is whether we would ever see them. The fact that the wildling soldier was wearing a giant skull doesn't answer that question. Dr. DVD was just confirming what it was.
What hahn said. No one ever confirmed whether or not we'll see them. They answered my questions.

Thanks guys! No fighting!
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Re: Game of Thrones -- 70 Minute Season Finale -- "Valar Morghulis" -- 6/03/12
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Relax please.
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Re: Game of Thrones -- 70 Minute Season Finale -- "Valar Morghulis" -- 6/03/12
Originally Posted by Hiro11
I'm confused as to why some of you didn't like that episode last night. I counted seven plots being moved forward, there was tons of action, lots of quotable dialog and at least three great reveals / special effects shots. Tyrion's scenes were some of the best Dinklage has ever done, Dany is finally coming into her own, Robb's true nature is revealed. Also, the cinematography and sound editing in the final scene was masterful, as good as anything I've ever seen in a feature film. It was easily one of my favorite episodes of the show. To each their own, I guess.
Exactly the same feelings. One thing about the walkers at the end, part of me was thinking it was Jeor Mormont, just looked like the same facial structure.... I guess not though eh? Despite my initial reservations on the 1st season, I thought this season really stepped it up, and made the most of the budget since they had the assets from s1 as a starting point. Hopefully further seasons continue the trend.
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Is he unwell? Or just being extra careful?

This is not the look of a man who will live into his 80's.
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Is he unwell? Or just being extra careful?
Just being careful, he is 3 bills and over 60
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Re: Game of Thrones -- 70 Minute Season Finale -- "Valar Morghulis" -- 6/03/12
Originally Posted by CKMorpheus
If that's the case than my idea of how big the giants are really needs to be reevaluated. The wall was created to keep out the giants, so when I think of giants, I think:

Isn't Hodor considered a giant?

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Re: Game of Thrones -- 70 Minute Season Finale -- "Valar Morghulis" -- 6/03/12
So wait, anyone that dies North of the wall is "fair game" for coming back to life and should be treated as such? Or is it only in certain areas and/or depending on if the Creatures come across the body?
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Isn't Hodor considered a giant?

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No.
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Originally Posted by Ephemeral_Life
No.
Osha did say "I wager he's got some giant's blood in him" the first time she saw him though.

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